Does this count as a Smash?

[delzep]

Say I decide to brew a beer with 5kg of pale malt, but I decide to take 500g of it and toast it (or roast it or whatever), then add it to the mash (and use a single hop when brewing of course), would you consider that as a SMASH?

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

Depends on the competition.

[irish_goat]

I'd say no as once you roast the grain you'll have 2 different types in your mash.

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

would agree with this. Once you go modifying some of the grist you now have 2 different line items on your malt bill.

SMaSH beers are a good learning exercise, but you are not meant to be able to make every beer style this way.

There are some tricks that modify the malt / wort post mash that I would consider legit in a smash beer (but query your competition organiser first).

Any decoction if the mash or mash baking (see kleptinis). Boiling off the wort separately ie to get lots of wort caramelisation & colour, and any parti-gyling.

We ran a smash comp a while back and the rules were well thought out.