Re: Can we brew better than the White House?

[LordEoin]

How can we improve upon this?

[Ciderhead]

Boiling Honey for 5 mins is mad you take any flavour and goodness out of it
Just use sugars for your fermentables its cheaper and not such a waste of honey, or if you absolutely must at flameout, abtw I have 7 hives more than the W/H

[Partridge9]

Not quite sure i'd put this in the 'best' recipes section -

as you said - I'd say you could do a better job.

Love to see you get those hives into beer -

whats the honey like ? Sometimes Irish honey can be a tad sour due to the nature of the flora and fauna available.

My father in Law has 3/4 hives but the honey isnt sweet.

I use honey in my Belgians.

[Ciderhead]

Not quite sure i'd put this in the 'best' recipes section -

as you said - I'd say you could do a better job.

Love to see you get those hives into beer -

whats the honey like ? Sometimes Irish honey can be a tad sour due to the nature of the flora and fauna available.

My father in Law has 3/4 hives but the honey isnt sweet.

I use honey in my Belgians.

All proper irish honey is sweet unless its fermented, i.e. he harvested with cells not capped and too much water present
Flavour does change, i.e. clover, oil seed rape, blackberry and you can get a monoflavour when there is a full flow on but most urban honey is a good blend of all floral types, no fauna involved though except the bloody swallows that eat my bees, the bastards, its like a drive through some summer evenings    
Its close to impossible to buy true Irish honey you need to have a paper seal FIBKA between lid and jar.
Read the label on your supermarket Irish honey jar next time you will see its bottled and blended here with EU sources, some of it comes from China  , we had the whole horse burger debate viz honey 5 years ago when Irish producers were calling Czech Honey Irish because it was bottled here.
Even Boyne valley pasturise it taking all the flavour out
Chairman of Roundwood Beekeepers

[DEMPSEY]

Speaking of honey in China,a few years back watching Michael Palin doing his travel programmes,he went to some out of the way nowhere place in China to meet the locals and have lunch. They gave him a local special treat of new born baby mice you had Honey poured into them to fill them up and you popped them into your mouth and enjoyed. . Never forgot that image.

[JimmyM]

just the ticket john boy - ill have a man at the cork bash who will bend your ear all day about bees - hes looking to start keeping them.

[LordEoin]

Here's a translation:

1.5kg light LME
500g LDME
350g amber crystal malt grain
250g biscuit malt grain
450g honey
45g EKG pellet
45g Fuggles pellet
1 package Danstar Nottingham
100g priming sugar

Steep grain in 6L water at 68C for 30minutes

EKG - 45 min boil
Fuggles - 6 min boil
Honey - 5 min boil

Topped to 19L, no need to strain hop matter out.

Pitch at 23C

Ferment at 21C for 7 days

Rack to secondary for 14 days.

Bulk Prime with 100ml corn sugar in 2L boiling water.

Bottle

[LordEoin]

Here's my suggestion:

1 Coopers' Australian Pale Ale kit
500g LDME
350g crystal grain(60)
250g biscuit grain
450g honey
45g EKG pellet (45 min)
45g Fuggles pellet (10 min)
30g Bramling Cross (dry)
1 pack US05
120g dex (priming)

Steep grain in 3L water at 65C for 30minutes.
Bring to the boil

EKG - 45 min boil
Fuggles - 10min boil

Let it sit for 20 mins to let heavy matter fall.

Strain to FV, Add honey and DME, mix vigorously.
Topped to 19L.

Aim to pitch at 23C

Ferment at 18-20C for 7 days.

Rack to secondary, dry hop bramling cross, leave for 7 days.

Bulk Prime with 120g dex

Bottle