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Kettle Element Thermo Disc Switch.

Started by Greg2013, October 04, 2013, 08:22:20 PM

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Greg2013

October 04, 2013, 08:22:20 PM Last Edit: October 04, 2013, 08:56:25 PM by Greg2013
Any harm in pulling the thermo disc thingy on the argos kettle elements ? i just got 45 litres of tap water to an almost boil and the damn things tripped out on me. :'(

Got the boiler conversion up and running tonight finally with 45 litres of tap water, was heating away like a divil then all of a sudden both elements cut out, no LCB's tripped so i am assuming its the thermo disc in the elements themselves? 15mins later and they still will not switch back on :-[
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ColMack

No harm. Snip them and they stop working. Or bend them back till the little grey pin falls out.

Greg2013

Quote from: ColMack on October 04, 2013, 10:34:39 PM
No harm. Snip them and they stop working. Or bend them back till the little grey pin falls out.

I pulled one but before i pulled the second i checked the plugs and it was the plug fuses that blew  ::)
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Greg2013

How long do ye reckon it should take for 45 litres of tap water @ 19 celsius to reach boiling using two simultaneous 2.2kw argos kettle elements ?
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delzep

Depends, but get some insulation on your boiler and it was reduce the time drastically

ColMack

I've never timed mine but it takes a good while to bring 20 odd litres to the boil. I'm insulating my boiler today.

Greg2013

October 05, 2013, 09:42:02 AM #6 Last Edit: October 05, 2013, 10:14:43 AM by Greg2013
Quote from: ColMack on October 05, 2013, 08:57:30 AM
I've never timed mine but it takes a good while to bring 20 odd litres to the boil. I'm insulating my boiler today.

Last night the 45 litres took 90 mins to reach a boil with both elements. This morning i have 30 litres tap water in there @ 18c to check.

The 30 litres took 70 minutes to reach a 95c boil with both elements. The one element does not hold the boil well enough atm,defo a two element job. Possibly may need to install a third element for practicality purposes.
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imark

Insulation and a lid. 2 elements should be fine. Easier to insulate than fit another element also. :)

Greg2013

Quote from: imark on October 05, 2013, 11:56:35 AM
Insulation and a lid. 2 elements should be fine. Easier to insulate than fit another element also. :)

Yes must dig out some silver radiator insulation or that silver backed bubble wrap stuff used in attics.
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Kieran the Human

If it's being used as a boil kettle, wouldn't insulating it affect the the rate of cooling with an immersion chiller?
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Greg2013

Quote from: Beer Baron on October 05, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
If it's being used as a boil kettle, wouldn't insulating it affect the the rate of cooling with an immersion chiller?

Sure would Baron m8 but  have decided to use the keg as my HLT nowand will be converting my stock pot soon to use as my wort boiler ;D
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LordEoin

Quote from: Beer Baron on October 05, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
If it's being used as a boil kettle, wouldn't insulating it affect the the rate of cooling with an immersion chiller?
It shouldn't make much of a difference because the immersion chiller will be doing all the hard work.

pob

Quote from: LordEoin on October 05, 2013, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: Beer Baron on October 05, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
If it's being used as a boil kettle, wouldn't insulating it affect the the rate of cooling with an immersion chiller?
It shouldn't make much of a difference because the immersion chiller will be doing all the hard work.

Beg to differ, I had a couple of layers of thermowrap/ silver bubble wrap around my rew keggle, nicely taped up.

Worked great for keeping mash temp (BIAB) and getting to & keeping boil.

First time I used it wort chiller took forever to cool though, until I worked out why it was still so hot, Thermowrap was working perfectly, against me.



Now use the Thermowrap (& a foam sleeping bag mat, for extra heat retention) like a lagging jacket (taped around all edges, split down, to allow wrap around kettle), held on with 2 straps for mash & boil, removed when chilling - works a dream.