Automatic siphon

[Leann ull]

I had a further play with the faulty one for a hour tonight and lots of fecking around resulted in nothing. It's getting closer to the bin by the minute.

[Shanna]

Have to give up the Major no way I was going to have enough puff to blow through that Hepa, it worked without it but didn't think that was sanitary so I cheated.
Must remember to make sure not 6bar on reg. And that I'm not standing on the tube.
Talk about over engineering but hey that's what Homebrewers do.

Great pictures CH maybe it's time you started a blog as you have a knack for this stuff, cue inevitable question. Not having seen the underside of a carboy cap are those two tubes sticking out of it connected or independent? I am struggling to figure out how blowing Co2 through one tube can cause the liquid to flow? Wondering could the same principle be applied with a rubber bung with two holes in it and put two plastic pipes or lengths of silicon hose directly through. Another use for the stainless carbonation caps I see

Shanna

[Leann ull]

Independent
Same as a corny you create a pressure differential, with a high pressure in the vessel wanting to escape.
A bung and 2 bits of tubing would do same thing.

[mr hoppy]

I like. Where do you get a long stainless racking cane?

[Leann ull]

https://www.hopandgrape.co.uk/
Is where somebody kindly picked one up for me, it was going to be made into a thermowell but not now

[pob]

Hop & Grape linky
Racking Cane - Stainless Steel
£10
304 Stainless Steel Racking Cane for siphoning beer and wine.
3/8" diameter, 26" long.
Fit 8mm syphon & silicone tubing.
Complete with sediment trap.

[imark]

I've been doing same as you for a few months. I don't use the cornies post though. Just put tube straight into the cap. Making sure to keep the pressure way down adds great excitement to kegging. 😅
You can get a ready assembled one from aliexpress

[Leann ull]

I've been doing same as you for a few months. I don't use the cornies post though. Just put tube straight into the cap. Making sure to keep the pressure way down adds great excitement to kegging. 😅
You can get a ready assembled one from aliexpress

do you have a link?
yep was thinking that but don't like popping those JG fittings too much as it rips the pipe after a loads of on and off.
I have 3 of those aliexpress carbonation caps and 1 has now got a permanent home.
In fact now if I am flushing a carboy I just use that cap.

[imark]

do you have a link?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Siphon-Starter-Kit-For-Carboy-Homebrew/32224345213.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.92.wLhow2

[Leann ull]

As we push HBS to provide us cheaper and cheaper products, I guess we only have ourselves to blame if some of the quality turns out to be complete shit.

I bought one of these this week and guess what.



So observations v's what I have already;

The tube is made from PVC v's the previous polycarbonate.
The shore hardness of the current plunger is harder than that of previous models I have resulting in a poor seal between the inner side wall of the tube and the stem.

The siphon exceeds the capability of the seal and needs a mod.

Messing around with it I came up with the following solutions

1.Remove the trub guard, it works, but is pretty pointless as that defeats it's purpose.
2. Rubber washer forcing out the flange against the side wall. This works but be aware that every litre of beer you siphon passes that washer and so if it's not food approved you will contaminate your entire batch.
3. Pour a Starsan solution above the plugger cutting off the supply of air. The issue with this is that the solution also gets drawn slowly into your beer and you may suck it all in to the point there is no water left and starts to draw air in.
4. A smearing of this around the plunger is just enough to make and keep a seal, the pain will be reapplying it. I tested it a couple of times and it works ok.



Conclusion; The product is not fit for purpose and the vendors need to flag this up to their suppliers, in the meantime as its an integral part of my process I'm off to find one in stainless with a rubber plunger wild horses can't move

I gave up on this piece of crap in the end it's now in the bin, a classic you get what you pay for

Mines in the bin now, complete rubbish and a classic you get what you pay for lesson and I spent the money I should have done to start

[Bubbles]

Just a heads up on this product that appears to be sold by all the shops. I know it's not an auto siphon, but someone may find the information useful.

I bottled two batches of beer at the weekend using this faulty siphon. The black rubber piece isn't bonded properly to the tube and it sucked a load of air into the beer as I racked both to bottling bucket and bottles. Both batches likely ruined.

I have now been through three (!) of these crappy things and all have been faulty. Purchased from different shops too. Really pissed off. Please avoid.

[garciaBernal]

Just a heads up on this product that appears to be sold by all the shops. I know it's not an auto siphon, but someone may find the information useful.

I bottled two batches of beer at the weekend using this faulty siphon. The black rubber piece isn't bonded properly to the tube and it sucked a load of air into the beer as I racked both to bottling bucket and bottles. Both batches likely ruined.

I have now been through three (!) of these crappy things and all have been faulty. Purchased from different shops too. Really pissed off. Please avoid.

I still have one of them going on 3 years and it's the best one I've had funnily enough. No air getting through at all. Maybe the quality has deteriorated since. However, I bought this one cheap enough and fucked it in the bin half way through racking as it was sucking air in from all directions http://www.homebrewwest.ie/craft-range-45-cm-siphon-simply-demijohns-buckets-fermenters-5019-p.asp

[Bubbles]

Yes they used to be good quality. I have one that's around 2 years old also and it works fine. Problem is that I use it only for sour and funky beers. The latest run of these have serious issues, that's for certain.