East Coast American Pale Ale

[molc]

Finished at 1.005 which is much lower than I'd like. Lovely aroma, thin body, though carbonation will help with that a little. Prolly needed to start at 1.060 or higher to keep enough residual with this yeast.

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[Simon_]

Which yeast was that? Did you expect attenuation near that? 

[molc]

Which yeast was that? Did you expect attenuation near that?

Hazy Dazy, so a three yeast blend. Can give upto 86% attenuation, which looks like what it got, even with a 69C mash. I thought the mash and water profile would hold it back more than it did - live and learn.

[molc]

The finished article. Too bitter and lacking a touch of body, both which could he fixed with a different yeast and about 10 more points on the og. Tastes more like a fruity west coast IPA than an East coast pale ale as a result. Still quite drinkable and almost senionable.

How did it go for you Mick?

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[mick02]

The finished article. Too bitter and lacking a touch of body, both which could he fixed with a different yeast and about 10 more points on the og. Tastes more like a fruity west coast IPA than an East coast pale ale as a result. Still quite drinkable and almost senionable.

How did it go for you Mick?

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Mine turned out quite well but like yours it's a little too bitter to be an east coast pale ale. I'm happy to swap one for one if you want?

[molc]

The finished article. Too bitter and lacking a touch of body, both which could he fixed with a different yeast and about 10 more points on the og. Tastes more like a fruity west coast IPA than an East coast pale ale as a result. Still quite drinkable and almost senionable.

How did it go for you Mick?

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Mine turned out quite well but like yours it's a little too bitter to be an east coast pale ale. I'm happy to swap one for one if you want?

Yeah sure - I popped some in bottles for swapping. Send me a message and we can exchange at some point

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[Simon_]

So you've both said your beers came out too bitter for style. What would you change?
Move 10 minute additions to flame out?
Higher OG?
More residual sweetness?

[molc]

Different yeast and higher og would fix it for me. It's just fermented out too much so it's not juicy.

[mick02]

So you've both said your beers came out too bitter for style. What would you change?
Move 10 minute additions to flame out?
Higher OG?
More residual sweetness?

I was using some very high alpha hops that I would probably replace the next time around. IIRC the Vic Secret I had was 21%AA and Galaxy was up at about 16%. While I know that I could have added them for less time in the whirlpool to minimise the bitterness I was also trying to get as much aroma in there as possible so next time I would either shorten the whirlpool time or use hops with less AA. I have used just flameout additions before but I really think that the resultant beer lacks something so that is why I try to add a late addition (10 minute) as well as a flameout.

[Qs]

I made a beer based on the advice in this thread too. Was 67% Golden Promise, 21% malted oats, 8% flaked wheat and 4% carahell. 10g Galaxy at 10 minutes then 40g each of Galaxy, Vic Secret and El Dorado hop hash. Dry hopped twice each time with 30g each of the above hops. Its smells great and tastes ok but like both of you its too bitter, maybe with a bit too much hop astringency too. Imperial Juice (London III) for yeast.

I was thinking of going all whirpool but Micks comments are putting me off that. Maybe trying a couple 12/13%ish hops with one of around 6-8% might smooth it out a bit.

[mick02]

I made a beer based on the advice in this thread too. Was 67% Golden Promise, 21% malted oats, 8% flaked wheat and 4% carahell. 10g Galaxy at 10 minutes then 40g each of Galaxy, Vic Secret and El Dorado hop hash. Dry hopped twice each time with 30g each of the above hops. Its smells great and tastes ok but like both of you its too bitter, maybe with a bit too much hop astringency too.

I was thinking of going all whirpool but Micks comments are putting me off that. Maybe trying a couple 12/13%ish hops with one of around 6-8% might smooth it out a bit.

By all means go with whirlpool, it's just my feeling regarding only whirlpool hops. Five it a lash and see of it's any better. Like you my beer smells amazing but that bitterness comes through that kind of takes away from the beer.

[Qs]

Its a problem I've had with all my NEIPAs too, just can't get that really soft hop flavour without the bitterness. I might try the whirpool only, I don't know. It'll be a while before I got again at this style anyway.

I really liked the mouth feel from the malt on this one, the yeast and oat malt did the trick there.

[krockett]

I usually do a 10 minute addition and then a flame out addition of 50% of final hop amount - I steep this for 10 minutes and calculate it as 10 minutes boil, then drop the temp to 75C for the 50% balance hop steep. I dial this in so it gives me 30 theoretical IBUs and tastes about right.