Not Hoppy = Not Happy!

[Leann ull]

Hmm not sure anybody really here spends that amount of money on a commercial beer based on US hops that is well balanced recipe or uses Dextrose either!
Actually Whiplash had a good go with surrender the void and that was pretty special but not same hops! It used Citra.
Francis banging is probably another related one as well, who use Simcoe Columbus but Mosaic.

[phynes1]

The closest thing ive tasted to pliny over here is Brewdog - Jackhammer. Not far off it, probably closer to sculpin though. 

[armedcor]

I notice you said you use Ph5.2. Give a search for that on Homebrewtalk. The concensus is that it's a waste of money, doesn't do much if anything.  Like CH said I'd have a look into getting your water tested etc and using things like gypsum etc to make changes.

[Leann ull]

I've seen that stuff and was tempted but measured a couple of mashs with strips and a probe and all was in order so never bothered after that.

[jonmuni]

Hi fellas,

thanks for all the replies, definitely given me loads to think about.

As I said I have a brew fermenting where I've changed the addition times and quantities so am hoping that this will prove my process. was right and timings are of. I can then work on the quantities afterwards.

Will let you know how that one tastes...

Jon