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Plastic 50 l drums on Adverts.

Started by Motorbikeman, January 18, 2016, 06:20:41 PM

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Motorbikeman

I just got a couple of these of a guy on Adverts for a 10 each.  Apparently he has loads. 
http://www.curtec.com/en/products/drums/wide-neck-drums/detail/wide-neck-drum-55-litres 
http://www.adverts.ie/crazy-random-stuff/plastic-container/9593771

They would make a great diy kettle or fermenter.  Thick sturdy stackable and handles.   Seal is quite good also.

Im not affiliated to him , just rekon they would suit the brewing crew . 


Leann ull

Storage, perfect, and they look quality, boilers absolutely not as HDPE has no heat resistance,not sure of the stability of that pigment to alcohol either

045blueman

That's me. Drop me a mail if you need any. Thanks.

Leann ull


Motorbikeman

 just checked.  It not made of the same stuff as regular Polypropylene buckets we use for brewing. 

It seems the melting point is typically in the range 120 to 180 °C

Where as the melting point in the PP buckets sold for boiling is 130 to 171 °C


Might be worth a test with a cheap Argos kettle element . 

This chart sugests its ok with Alcohol . What do you think?    Im sure there test are  done with stronger stuff than beer and its ok after 30 days..
  http://www.calpaclab.com/chemical-compatibility-charts/

Greg2013

Quote from: CH on January 18, 2016, 07:59:07 PM
Storage, perfect, and they look quality, boilers absolutely not as HDPE has no heat resistance,not sure of the stability of that pigment to alcohol either

Would they not be suitable so for use as a fermenter you think CH ? :)
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dcalnan

Quote from: CH on January 18, 2016, 08:12:53 PM
How much grain can you get in each?

just did the maths, American's say they get  5lbs per us gallon , which works out at ~.6kg per Litre. so a 50 litre should hold ~30kg so a full sack with room to spare.

Any chance you're ever in Cork, 045blueman?

Leann ull

Actually based on those dimensions its closer to 75L ;)
Don't confuse Melt and Service Temperature, if you were considering a plastic bucket for boiling PP would be the way to go, these are not PP.

The plastic pressure barrels are opaque and have no colourant in them or the older white ones have TI02 some of which are fine for food contact. A lot of these barrels have the food on an inner protective liner and there is no direct contact, something I saw recently with a US fermenter.

If we can find out what their original use was, I'm sure they are grand, just wouldn't want anyone having Viagra off flavour in their beer.

Motorbikeman

They are no good at all with heat. :(   

I threw a kettle full of boiling water into one to see what would happen. 

Instantly deformed in the base.

You're right again CH.     still great for grain storage .. 



Leann ull

ah balls :(, again great as a storage vessel and good price 

045blueman

Drop me a mail if you need any.
Thanks

Leann ull

Can you tell us without getting fired what was in them in their 1st life?

DEMPSEY

Y'is should allway's listen to CH when talking about plastic,s if you want to father children in the future  ;)  ;D 
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aweisse

Quote from: dcalnan on January 18, 2016, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: CH on January 18, 2016, 08:12:53 PM
How much grain can you get in each?

just did the maths, American's say they get  5lbs per us gallon , which works out at ~.6kg per Litre. so a 50 litre should hold ~30kg so a full sack with room to spare.

Any chance you're ever in Cork, 045blueman?

Im in cork as well, ide take 2

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