Automatic siphon

[mr hoppy]

Try a simple syphon filled with starsan - works perfect every time, especially into a keg if you attach the black disconnect on  to it with a barb.

[ianm]

Try a simple syphon filled with starsan - works perfect every time, especially into a keg if you attach the black disconnect on  to it with a barb.

Sounds interesting.  Could you not just drop the tubing into the keg and bypass the disconnect, or am I missing something here?

By the way I have an auto syphon that has been letting air in since day one.  I have tried lowering and raising height of source and destination vessels, slowing the flow and nothing worked.  If I put boiled water into the top surely it will just leak through like the air bubbles.  Got mine from HBC.

[Beerbuddha]

Found fix for issues.

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[Beerbuddha]

Squeeze o ring I to lip seal this expands the lip seal putter surface making air tight against inner tube.

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[Beerbuddha]

R-07 from this kit allot have them from lisle or aldi

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[Beerbuddha]

Ring squeezed into lip seal hard to see

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[Beerbuddha]

Reassemble and it will feel tighter as ring expands against inner wall. Tested it and no air bubbles.......simples

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[molc]

Nice fix!

[johnrm]

Food grade o-rings in Lidl, yay!

[mr hoppy]

Try a simple syphon filled with starsan - works perfect every time, especially into a keg if you attach the black disconnect on  to it with a barb.

Sounds interesting.  Could you not just drop the tubing into the keg and bypass the disconnect, or am I missing something here?

The idea of attaching the disconnect is that you can purge the keg and avoid adding air during syphoning plus you attach the disconnect to the syphon before you attach it to the keg so the flow only starts when the disconnect is attached to the keg. Also the liquid dip tube runs to the bottom of the keg effectively making it an extension of the syphon.


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[Leann ull]

Food grade o-rings in Lidl, yay!

An oxymoron, those cheap rubber rings contain peroxides and definitely not suitable for contact with either alcohol or cleaning agents.

[Beerbuddha]

I guess the real issue is why are 2 of the main brew supply shops and prob more selling crap siphons

There isnt much contact time for these rubbers so id rather go as is than have bubbles air in the beer but im sure people will buy and install food grade o-ring...permanent temp fix one sniggers 

BUT if the designers cannot get the basic siphon system working aka Double or two way fu...n lip seal right...then when you think about it.... how much time have they spent on the *grade* of plastic,rubber ect it took to manufacture these siphons !

[BrewDorg]

I thought it was just me. Could not for the life of me get my auto siphon to work well, it's the biggest piece of crap. I eventually just installed a tap in my fermenter to save me the hassle and annoyance. The question is, who does sell a siphon that works properly? I'd like one as backup.

[Leann ull]

As we push HBS to provide us cheaper and cheaper products, I guess we only have ourselves to blame if some of the quality turns out to be complete shit.

I bought one of these this week and guess what.



So observations v's what I have already;

The tube is made from PVC v's the previous polycarbonate.
The shore hardness of the current plunger is harder than that of previous models I have resulting in a poor seal between the inner side wall of the tube and the stem.

The siphon exceeds the capability of the seal and needs a mod.

Messing around with it I came up with the following solutions

1.Remove the trub guard, it works, but is pretty pointless as that defeats it's purpose.
2. Rubber washer forcing out the flange against the side wall. This works but be aware that every litre of beer you siphon passes that washer and so if it's not food approved you will contaminate your entire batch.
3. Pour a Starsan solution above the plugger cutting off the supply of air. The issue with this is that the solution also gets drawn slowly into your beer and you may suck it all in to the point there is no water left and starts to draw air in.
4. A smearing of this around the plunger is just enough to make and keep a seal, the pain will be reapplying it. I tested it a couple of times and it works ok.



Conclusion; The product is not fit for purpose and the vendors need to flag this up to their suppliers, in the meantime as its an integral part of my process I'm off to find one in stainless with a rubber plunger wild horses can't move

I gave up on this piece of crap in the end it's now in the bin, a classic you get what you pay for

[Beerbuddha]

Can Ye grab me a stainless one also 

I got an email asking for a write up on this product for some reason it wasn't published 

Great review CH I bow to your publishing skills.