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Automatic siphon

Started by Beerbuddha, July 05, 2016, 08:21:25 AM

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molc

That explains why the gurgling only started after I had to replace one recently as well. Thought I had just gotten a bad one. Good to share. Guess I'll get my next one from the states.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

dcalnan

My best auto syphon was my first one the fermtech auto syphon.

Beerbuddha

Ch what shop did you purchase this siphon from as im sure people will not buy from this shop ( siphon wise)
we are not politicians just homebrewers looking after each other
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Shanna

Quote from: CH on July 13, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
As we push HBS to provide us cheaper and cheaper products, I guess we only have ourselves to blame if some of the quality turns out to be complete shit.

I bought one of these this week and guess what.



So observations v's what I have already;

The tube is made from PVC v's the previous polycarbonate.
The shore hardness of the current plunger is harder than that of previous models I have resulting in a poor seal between the inner side wall of the tube and the stem.

The siphon exceeds the capability of the seal and needs a mod.

Messing around with it I came up with the following solutions

1.Remove the trub guard, it works, but is pretty pointless as that defeats it's purpose.
2. Rubber washer forcing out the flange against the side wall. This works but be aware that every litre of beer you siphon passes that washer and so if it's not food approved you will contaminate your entire batch.
3. Pour a Starsan solution above the plugger cutting off the supply of air. The issue with this is that the solution also gets drawn slowly into your beer and you may suck it all in to the point there is no water left and starts to draw air in.
4. A smearing of this around the plunger is just enough to make and keep a seal, the pain will be reapplying it. I tested it a couple of times and it works ok.



Conclusion; The product is not fit for purpose and the vendors need to flag this up to their suppliers, in the meantime as its an integral part of my process I'm off to find one in stainless with a rubber plunger wild horses can't move


Something like this as you use carboys should work.
http://brulosophy.com/tag/auto-siphon/

Shanna
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Leann ull

Cheers Shanna I already have a stainless cane those caps and tubing so will give that a try, must remember to brush my teeth first



Shanna

Quote from: CH on July 14, 2016, 09:07:21 AM
Cheers Shanna I already have a stainless cane those caps and tubing so will give that a try, must remember to brush my teeth first
Have heard of beard & even minge yeast being used for brewing :) but mouth yeast might a step too far. Save the toothbrush for cleaning ur heating elements as the gear has an in built hepa filter.

Shanna
Cornie keg group buy organiser, storeman & distribution point
Hops Group buy packer
Regulator & Taps distribution point
Stainless Steel Fermenter Group Buy Organiser
South Dublin Brewers member

Leann ull

I was only tweeting to "John Beernut" the other day to save his "washings" after a visit to the dental hygienist, the yeast that must have passed those teeth, sigh..

Shanna

Quote from: CH on July 14, 2016, 04:28:08 PM
I was only tweeting to "John Beernut" the other day to save his "washings" after a visit to the dental hygienist, the yeast that must have passed those teeth, sigh..
Mental image I will struggle to suppress. On a more relevant note if you figure out how to jerry rig something that works with the racking cane please document it.

Shanna
Cornie keg group buy organiser, storeman & distribution point
Hops Group buy packer
Regulator & Taps distribution point
Stainless Steel Fermenter Group Buy Organiser
South Dublin Brewers member

Leann ull

Well I have all those bits
Orange carboy cap
Tubing
Hepa filter
Long stainless racking cane
Do you need a pic

molc

I bet that's what you say to all the ladies ;)
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Shanna

Quote from: CH on July 14, 2016, 05:12:26 PM
Well I have all those bits
Orange carboy cap
Tubing
Hepa filter
Long stainless racking cane
Do you need a pic
No my preference is for 1000 words :) especially if you assemble your bits and get it working. Failing that one of ur patented viddoes would be great.

Shanna
Cornie keg group buy organiser, storeman & distribution point
Hops Group buy packer
Regulator & Taps distribution point
Stainless Steel Fermenter Group Buy Organiser
South Dublin Brewers member

Leann ull





Have to give up the Major no way I was going to have enough puff to blow through that Hepa, it worked without it but didn't think that was sanitary so I cheated.
Must remember to make sure not 6bar on reg. And that I'm not standing on the tube.
Talk about over engineering but hey that's what Homebrewers do.

Frequent Sequence

Great looking solution. As soon as I saw yerman blowing into the filter I thought "that's a job for co2". Let's do an overly emotional kickstarter!  :-*