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Water Filtration / Reverse Osmosis / RO Affiliate

Started by johnrm, May 07, 2013, 01:55:03 PM

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RichC

@LordEoin, since you're unit has a tank is it possibly you underestimated both throughput and waste dramatically? Yours delivered 9.5L water and 27.5l waste in 75 mins but surely the first 7~8 litres you got were from the tank and the waste from filling the tank was already gone down the drain? Or did you disconnect the tank for your test completely?
Btw I've had huge issues dealing with Irish water filtration company's also. No rudeness but gross incompetence.

LordEoin

I estimated nothing, I was told by them per-order that t would be 4 parts water to 1 part waste.
I completely emptied the tank completely before testing.

johnrm

Sorry to hear that.
My experience of RO was mucho waste too.

1. Insist in talking to a manager. Express your disappointment, request collection.
2. Supply: 1/2" Qualpex? Tuen off mains. Insert inline 1/2 inch olived tap.
3. Waste: Get a small lengh of 2" PVC pipe, split it lengthways and use that stinky glue (STRONG Uhu smelling) to bandage the waste pipe.
4. If no joy with 1 above, get on to Dermot Jewells crew - http://thecai.ie/

AFAIK brenmurph has had a good experience with these guys, but hey, they're sales people, therefore prone to lying.

brenmurph

6 years since my first RO unit purchased from them and never hasd an issue.

If anyone has been here at south kildare brewers and seen our steam room / jacuzzi, that came from same company about 6 years ago as well... 3 year warranty came with it and we had 3 faults over that time, each time a whole new componant sent by DHL from china from my house. New main comtroller, new steam generator and new 12 volt taps...all working great for  past 4 or more years.
So all I can say is that I have never had an issue and I have recomended them ( mainly due to price and the only supplier with free delivery)

Saruman (Reuben Gray)

Quote from: LordEoin on October 25, 2013, 10:10:24 AM

They have 2 delivery methods, free (next day) and €7.50 (about 3 days).



Interesting delivery strategy  ;)

Brenmurph has a couple of RO systems in his house.
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DEMPSEY

I got my system from brenmurph and my wife is looking over my shoulder so it is the best system for having great drinking water and for making tea and coffee as the kettle is not gunked up any more. :). Just happens to be handy for a fella who might want to knock out an oddauld now and then BUT THAT'S NOT WHY I GOT IT ;)
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brenmurph

the RO wastes water if u flow it down the drain. The waste ro water has gone through 3 x 5 micron filters, its as pure as it gets for filtered water.. It could be bottled and sold, or you can save it for your mash, sparge, or whatever.
the ro system has a drain outlet, this can be sent ( as it normally is) to the sink waste... it can be stored in a water butt to wash your car, your dog r cat will love it and you can use it as you please... its perfectly good water and it does not have to be dumped down the drain... so really its not waste water if ye use ur loafs

Eoin

What exactly makes it 'waste water'? Is it packed with the salts you don't want? Is it the same as your normal tap water in composition or more concentrated salts? If salts, are they sodium salts?


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LordEoin

in the end after a headwrecking morning of webchat and phone calls i was offered collection and a refund, or some free sets of water filters.
I'll just go with the free filters and put my brain to work on thinking how to store and use the wastewater.

@eoin - it wouldn't be packed with salts, but would have about a 33% higher concentration of everything that was removed (eg salt, manganese, iron, fluoride, lead, calcium)

Eoin

Quote from: LordEoin on November 07, 2013, 03:51:32 AM
in the end after a headwrecking morning of webchat and phone calls i was offered collection and a refund, or some free sets of water filters.
I'll just go with the free filters and put my brain to work on thinking how to store and use the wastewater.

@eoin - it wouldn't be packed with salts, but would have about a 33% higher concentration of everything that was removed (eg salt, manganese, iron, fluoride, lead, calcium)

Ideally you'd pipe the waste back into a tank in the attic for the hot water system.

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Damien M

November 07, 2013, 08:28:55 AM #40 Last Edit: November 07, 2013, 01:25:15 PM by johnrm
I was thinking about this and Pipe back to Attic Tank is a good idea but ........

The  attic tank is level controlled from the ballcock fed from the road. You'd have to fit the same to the RO feed and then you could only make RO when there is a house demand  to draw off the RO waste. Ideally you'd have to put in an RO waste tank in the attic to store it and then feed the attic tank from it.  Oh yeah you'd have to run a pipe from under your sink ( or wherever you have your RO setup) all the way to your attic and most domestic installations are not set up to run additional pipes! But possible!   

[Edit: Ballcock is one word ;)]

Eoin

Quote from: DaMun on November 07, 2013, 08:28:55 AM
I was thinking about this and Pipe back to Attic Tank is a good idea but ........

The  attic tank is level controlled from the ball love pump fed from the road. You'd have to fit the same to the RO feed and then you could only make RO when there is a house demand  to draw off the RO waste. Ideally you'd have to put in an RO waste tank in the attic to store it and then feed the attic tank from it.  Oh yeah you'd have to run a pipe from under your sink ( or wherever you have your RO setup) all the way to your attic and most domestic installations are not set up to run additional pipes! But possible!


I did think about ballcock, so yeah, you'd need to work out your waste amounts then collect in a second tank, and then maybe overflow to a water butt. All not too straightforward, but with metering coming, you'd be mad to waste all that water Ted.

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DEMPSEY

Well my system is under the kitchen sink and there is no where I could pump the waste to. So it has to go to the waste outlet. I only use it for drinking water and brewing. As regards to the cost of the water coming in via the government tax pipe, Tiocfaidh ár lá.
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Eoin

Quote from: DEMPSEY on November 07, 2013, 10:14:37 AM
Well my system is under the kitchen sink and there is no where I could pump the waste to. So it has to go to the waste outlet. I only use it for drinking water and brewing. As regards to the cost of the water coming in via the government tax pipe, Tiocfaidh ár lá.

Are you going to blow the pipe up a chara? :-P

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