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Transporting CO2

Started by Richie71, February 17, 2013, 09:42:29 PM

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Richie71

Have a full Co2 tank in Dublin and have to transport it to Mayo. Converted fire extinguisher type.  Does anyone know if this is safe?

Should I put it lying down in the boot of the car or upright in the back seat with the kids???  :o :o   




johnrm

I would be inclined to strap it so that it does not roll about.
In a car, lying down is probably going to be easier.
Car Boots generally have tie down loops under the carpet (Well, Fords do)
Once the valve is closed and your Kids don't mess with it you should be OK.

Richie71

Should be able to keep it wrapped up nice & comfy in the boot.  I've read somewhere that they should be stored upright so was afraid that lying it on its side, rocking back & forth for about 3 or 4 hours might cause it to blow its top or something.

Richie71

Just realised this question was a bit leading. Let it be known I won't hold anyone responsible if things go pear shaped.  So let me re-phrase the question: Has anyone travelled such a distance with CO2? If so, how did you store it during transit?  ;) 

johnrm

 I've traveled on numerous journeys with then in every orientation except upside down.
chucked behind the drivers seat using rubber floor mats to stop sliding from side to side  on Bends.
It takes a SERIOUS  amount of abuse to pop one of these babies.
just make sure the valve does not open in transit and you should be good

Ciderhead

Its the 60 litres of petrol that your kids sit on, I would be more concerned about!
C02 is obviously a proven fire suppressant so nothing flammable. As long as you have it fixed securely and the tank is good quality you will have no issue.
Be absolutely sure the tank is closed fully.
John RM post here about your recent CO2 dose :o
I strap/wedge mine in the boot.
Categorized as Non-Flamable Compressed gas, and its the compressed element which is the Dangerous bit.
http://apps.risd.edu/envirohealth_msds/CO2.pdf


Richie71

February 18, 2013, 12:01:58 AM #6 Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 12:26:03 AM by Richie71
Thanks John, you've put my mind at ease.

Thanks Ciderhead, the scary part of that was: "Never carry a compressed gas cylinder or a container of a gas in cryogenic liquid form in an enclosed space such as a car trunk, van or station wagon. A leak can result in a fire, explosion, asphyxiation or a toxic exposure." 

So basically, strap it in, hold tight, but don't blame us if anthing goes wrong!!!!

I think what you're both saying is if it's a good sound vessel, all should be ok as long as I keep it packed nice & tight. Those odds don't seem too bad, cheers lads.  :)

Shanna

Hi there,

Not.to be the nervous nelly type but just be aware that Carbon Dioxide can and will cause asphixiation in an enclosed space where it will lower the concentration of oxygen. Sure the petrol tank if ruptured is higher risk but at least it's been designed as part of the car. Personally I would avoid travelling long distances with kids and Co2 in the car.  I would also make sure that the regulator is not attached.

Shanna
Cornie keg group buy organiser, storeman & distribution point
Hops Group buy packer
Regulator & Taps distribution point
Stainless Steel Fermenter Group Buy Organiser
South Dublin Brewers member

johnrm

February 18, 2013, 08:56:08 AM #8 Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 09:05:43 AM by johnrm
@Shanna, you're dead right. Hence my saying strap it securely and make sure the valve is shut off. To be safe you should ensure a constant fresh air flow. IIRC, BOC trucks do not enclose their gas cylinders.
Does the bottle have a collar? Mine does, so rteduced chance of the valve opening from rubbing off something.
Asphyxiation? Check out Limnic Eruptios...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limnic_eruption
CO2 is Definitely nasty in large doses.

The episode the ciderhead mentions: I pulled ther relief valve on an empty Corny to start cleaning it, lid off, some water in, gave it a sloosh and then raised the keg to pour and got a lungfull of CO2.

Cryogenic freezing...

Richie71

Well I got my CO2 home safe & sound thanks to the brother in law who carried it all the way from Dublin to Mayo. It was wedged tight in the boot of the car so not to roll around.

Have to say I was worried about this & glad its all over. So many mixed responses both here & here, Thanks for the responses btw.

My conclusion is that it's probably safe as long as you can guarantee it doesn't roll around or get too hot.... but hopefully I won't be doing it again!!  :-/

So, cornies & CO2 in hand, now to start planning that kegerator build.......

Dodge

Great safety tips.

I got a bottle of co2 from cork and traveled to Westmeath with no problems. Just keep it from moving in the boot of your car and you'll be fine