Friday Meet in June

[iain_todd]

"are you happy that your unmanned drones blow up civilian children?" would've been a good one too.


Cool, I should be there around eight, lads. I'll bring some more wine and hopefully some cider.

[Bill_00]

Liberated a few bottles of my black IPA from their conditioning prison! Shall have a decent sample 

[sub82]

Ah - we can't make it and was looking forward to trying your black IPA! We attempted one but it turned out way too burnt!

[Bill_00]

What was the grain bill for yours?

We may have just got lucky with the black malt we chose, stayed pretty even

[sub82]

We used around 2% black malt so the wrong type and probably too much - more of an experiment really!

AG #3

[matthewdick23]

chris, think u needa steep the darker grain in cold water and add it to boil- not mash it in with the rest of the bill

[Bill_00]

I think we used carafa III directly into the mash. I've heard, like Matthew said, that you shouldn't mash when using the blacker malts

[sub82]

Cool - yeah definitely back to the drawing board!

How long would you steep? Overnight?

We've Carafa II Special - is that similar?

[Bill_00]

Think it's just a bit lighter/less toasty.

Can't see it destroying anything.

I think you just steep it for the length of time for your mash, maybe a little longer. Because it's cold water you don't get the same transfer and it's mostly colour

[matthewdick23]

the recipes I've seen do an overnight steep in cold water. idea is that it just changes the colour and adds no flavour

[Bill_00]

Yeah...those recipes left me wondering what the point was at all TBH if it doesn't change the flavour...Sure a bit of black food dye would do the same job

[Bazza]

idea is that it just changes the colour and adds no flavour

Are we still talking purely for IPAs and lagers here?

For ales and stouts you add the grains to the mash, right? Or has the world as I know it been turned right around?

Which begs the question, why do a black ipa at all if all the 'black' contributes is colour? I'm probably just being an old fuddy-duddy. You kids with your disco music and your casual sex.


-Barry

[iain_todd]

idea is that it just changes the colour and adds no flavour

why do a black ipa at all if all the 'black' contributes is colour?

I thought that was the point of an IPA? It is black, but tastes like an IPA. Any black IPA's I've tried just taste like a hoppy porter, which makes me wonder where the 'Black IPA' is coming from.

[matthewdick23]

i had one sent over frm england for winning fantasy football league on another forum (we should do that nxt season btw for football fans). it was awesome- a really good ipa except it was black

my understanding was that its an ipa but with a different colour. the idea being that the colour throws you off , not being wot u expected

[sub82]

Really enjoyed the Kernel Scanner Darkly Black IPA - really hoppy and loads of flavour but yeah also roasty.