whirlfloc problem with Excess Trub Help please

[Eoin]

You should be able to hit the sweet spot with that advice, easy enough.

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[Eoin]

I think I might do up an article on this.

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[DEMPSEY]

Yes do. It is an issue that needs clarifying as the simple dosage of 1 tablet continually causes this problem to come up.

[Partridge9]

Bren,

Only speaking from my experience with Whirlfloc and 23l batches.

I started by using 1 full tablet and then I used to only use 1/2 whirlfloc tablet but now I'm back to using a full tablet again.

Your right about the clear wort - I used only collect clear wort 2/3 - 4/5 of the wort and check the rest - but my losses was savage.

So now I collect 90% of it - including the brainy stuff. The proteins are coagulated and essentially separated from the wort (but still there) - I have no problem with them going into the fermentor.

The proof is in the pudding and my beer clears perfectly (after a cold conditioning phase).

So in short - the objective is to 'clump' the proteins  - but they can go into the fermentor and the yeast can gobble them (or they settle later)- either way - same result - clear beer.

Irish Moss is more organic - have to give that a go.

[Eoin]

You don't need to see clumps for it to have worked. If you can see them you're overdosing. My 0.02 cents.



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[brenmurph]

@ eoin
"Read that whole thread, he expresses it more accurately and explains losses to trub"


will do!

[brenmurph]

I think I might do up an article on this.

worthwhile

[brenmurph]

Yes do. It is an issue that needs clarifying as the simple dosage of 1 tablet continually causes this problem to come up.

definatly, we are still on mixed opinions of the most basics....1 tab or half tab......leave gunk in fermenter or whirlpool it out

I think whoever feels they can provide referenced advice from good sources will do well.. there seems to be no orricial info on this product despite it being made by Kerry foods in carrigaline, I wonder would an email get any response?

[DEMPSEY]

Bang out an email and see what they say. Should get a response  as they do make it.

[brenmurph]

http://www.personaltraining.ie/Whirlfloc.pdf

I uploaded the safety sheet if anyone wants it

[johnrm]

I use dried carrageenan moss that I picked up at the beach and dried out.
No issues.

[brenmurph]

got the hang of the whirlfloc, using kerry foods whirlfloc g powder, seems way better than tablets, clears instantly shiny clear wort. Needs regydrating before use unlike tablets and need to weigh out exact amount ( couple grams)

Trub now down to a couple litres in 25 litre batch, beer tasting better than ever

[Eoin]

got the hang of the whirlfloc, using kerry foods whirlfloc g powder, seems way better than tablets, clears instantly shiny clear wort. Needs regydrating before use unlike tablets and need to weigh out exact amount ( couple grams)

Trub now down to a couple litres in 25 litre batch, beer tasting better than ever

Nice one Bren, glad you're convinced now, and on top of it.

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[mr hoppy]

Bren, where did you get the kerry group stuff from?

They seem to have quite a variety of unusually brewing ingredients on their website.

[Shanna]

Hi there

My initial observation re excessive trub leads me to conclude that its caused by particles from the hops and the grain.  Up until my last brew (SD barley wine) I was getting nearly two inches plus of trub. i adjusted the gap on my gain mill to make the crush course and i put my leaf hops in a cotton hop bag & put that bag inside a paint strainer bag. The stuff that came out of the bags post boil looked remarkably like trub. I had 26 litres of wort & I added 2 whirl floc tablets. I have less than one inch of trub in the fermenter leading to me conclude it is not the whirl floc (in my case) that was the problem but my process.

Shanna