Trying to cheat at Framboise - would this work?

[Ciderhead]

Did Padraic not tell you one of your bjcp off flavours is arse, ask him where he gets the samples.

[imark]

I dont know what you're insinuating beerfly! 

All I want to know is if its on the boil yet? I'd say the family will be delighted with the aromas you're exposing them to today 

[delzep]

Tube has a Breaking Bad-style pop up lab in his gaff today

[imark]

I thought you'd just leave the mash in the igloo. Simpler.

You could buy a bottle of lactic acid

[imark]

photo taken at tubes place earlier today.   

[mr hoppy]

Sour milk is probably good - that's the lactobacillus. From what I've read, if it starts smelling like shite or otherwise revolting it's enteric bacteria after taking over and you're into dumping territory. Other thing to watch (if you can) is pH - from my limited knowledge if it goes too low the whole thing goes rancid.

Lacto should be fine above 30 - 35 degrees, so I wouldn't get too hung up on 50.

I'm sure it'll be grand and rumour has it that lactic acid doesn't taste the same at all.

I reckon I'll pop a bottle of gose as a show of support!

[mr hoppy]

Ok, this is smelling kind of pukey, and I'm going to chuck it. According to BYO this could be clostridium butyricum

Just saw this. Crap. Interesting idea using a controller next time - WLP 677 is a pretty good option for lacto sourness as well.