McGargles kilcock

[Ciderhead]

Listened in full, so disappointing that the obvious enthusiasm, passion and belief in a quality product does not come across in the marketing or the beer I have tasted

[IrishBeerSnob]

I think we may see some tweaking when they're up and running in Kilcock;
Personally I discount the Untappd stats as the sample sizes are so low. 30 odd unique drinkers of the red vs 200+ of rebel red.
Again though as he said they are hoping to get people who drink Heineken etc across.

[Will_D]

I liked the bit where he offered help and the maybe of a new brewer doing a pilot brew on their kit.

[DEMPSEY]

Just listened to the podcast. Should be good to have all this on my doorstep. I like the idea of a 100 litre pilot plant 

[benji]

I haven't listened to the podcast yet, will do tomorrow. I think there is defiantly a market between macro and high quality micro beer.
So if I go into an off-license my choice is get 6 cans of Guinness for  €8-10 or 6 bottles of craft beer for €18-22 , surly there is a market for semi craft beer (500ml) at €1.50 - 2 i.e. Aldi's O'Sheas range.
I would like the option of buying maybe 2 of my favorite craft beers with 4 mid range beers and maybe this is the market these guys might be thinking of judging by the size of their planned operation.

[HopTown]

Hoping to have a trial brew at our stand at the Alltech fair this week

1. A Bramble Wheat beer with blackberries, cherries and Cassis

2. A Citrus Summer Lager - the citrus  f Webb nose driven by hops, nothing else added.

Should have some on the Stand from Friday.

In reply to lots of comments above, I absolutely respect all your views. Not everyone will like out brand or liquids and that's the way of things. Sure it'd be no fun otherwise.

If you've been drinking micro brews for a long time I do think you'll like our new stuff coming in the summer. It will be under a different brand name.

And my offer stands. The 100l plant is open to all. Just email me if you want to book in from late march onwards. Niall@ryeriverbrewingco.com

[Hingo]

I listened to the podcast last night myself, I hadn't really read much into Rye River/ McGargle's before to be honest nor have I tried any of the beers yet (Just have the podcast on iTunes). But I must say I'm intrigued about the approach to targeting the market that haven't got into craft beer yet. Like I'd be in the local with a few mates and might say to them "would ya not try a pint of this stuff, it's lovely!" and it's usually met with an answer along the lines of "Ahh I think I'll just stick to good ol' [insert brand here], cheers" usually because they're not too familiar with the different beer brands or maybe not keen in paying for a drink they think they won't like. (I know they were my reservations anyway as early as about 12-18 months ago - I'm a sucker for marketing )

I'm not saying I'm one of these folks that will turn me nose up at the big brand beers out there (only some ) but if this is a market that McGargles will give a bit of attention to, I can see this being a great benefit to the craft beer industry in Ireland (for all brewers looking to expand the general selection of beer out there) IMO. The fact that these lads have the experience behind them I'm sure will give them a good advantage to get a decent craft beer brand of the ground. If folks are more willing to try this "gateway" brand, they might be more keen to try some more of the complex brews going.

[Ciderhead]

Tim O' Rourke is of the same opinion and banging that drum last year, perhaps he had his ear, I like the approach though, you are paying for the malt so you may as well use them!

[Eoin]

IPA is the new black, that's why everyone is ramping up the hops. A lot of people don't get a subtle beer anymore.

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[DEMPSEY]

As Eoin and I have agreed on before you can make nice beer without piling in buckets of hops. My current favourite hopped beer is Jaipur and O'Dells st Lupulin. Great examples of flavoured hop beers rather than just bitter beers.

[Cathal O D]

Totally agree with this statement.  There is a big difference between nice hop flavour and too much hop bitterness. Its something we try to perfect in our brews and got it wrong a few times. Its such a waste if lovely hops when the beer is too bitter. The malt is there for a reason and we have found a good balance between the two.

you can make nice beer without piling in buckets of hops........ Great examples of flavoured hop beers rather than just bitter beers.

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[imark]

Co-incidentally Pearse Lyons was saying in today's paper that Irish brewers are going too heavy with the hops. Maybe he's right!

Wow...don't know where he got that from. I wouldn't tend to agree anyway.

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

As Eoin and I have agreed on before you can make nice beer without piling in buckets of hops. My current favourite hopped beer is Jaipur and O'Dells st Lupulin. Great examples of flavoured hop beers rather than just bitter beers.

Where's the Like button?

There is a lot to be said for entering the beer market without imitating the excesses of those who have gone before. Bitter bombing is a niche within a niche, its main focus being to attract attention to a breweries ability to accelerate hop shortages by making undrinkable beer.

But I disagree with the statement that too much hops are being used. People who write for papers should be able to distinguish between a brewery isomerising hops for bitterness, and carefully applying hops for flavour and aroma. Late additions take serious amounts of hop rates.

[MBrewer]

Hi all,

Great to meet everyone who was at Alltech over the weekend.

As Niall said earlier I would be very happy to brew with anyone who wants to try our 100hl plant when it is up and running.
We are going to try to do something pretty unique with that plant so watch this space!

Also if you want to come se the site where the brewery will be going in Kilcock give me a shout, Steve@ryeriverbrewingco.com.

Cheers,

Steve (Rye River Master Brewer)

[Will_D]

Hi Steve,

Yes a great weekend, enjoyed the chat with you all.

Sure there's not a typo in your offered brew size?:

"100hl plant"; to me thats 10,000 litres. 10 tons of beer in old money!

Now most of use brew 25 L batches ( in round money ) so thats 400 brews.

That would take me and 'Mrs D' a year to drink all that! 

But its a great offer assuming it sthe smaller 10 hl plant!!

If you run out of recipes then there are a scillion of greaty brews on our site!

"Onwards and Upwards"