Rebel Barrel 2014; Empty Oct beer and Possible Refill

[Taf]

I have a couple of spare sacks of MCI lager malt, or do we think it has to be pilsner malt?

[johnrm]

Theres loads of Lager and less Pilsner floating about.
I have 25kg Munich which I will happily divvy up.

[mr hoppy]

Given that a certain unnamed somebody recently one a competition with a kolsch brewed with MCI lager malt I'd say give it a lash. With all those speciality malts it should be ok.

BTW does MCI lager malt require a 90 minute boil like pilsner malt?

I'll try and stick a recipe up later. There's a one in Stan Hieronymus's For the Love of Hops which looks very similar to the U Fleku one with which I got my best competition score to date. Might pull out the score sheet as well while I'm at it and see if there's any pointers there.

[mr hoppy]

This is the recipe for the Kout na Sumave14^o Tmave Lezak Specialni. Not saying we have to follow exactly (except for the mash). Just throwing it out there.

77% Pilsner malt
10% Munich 2 (16 EBC)
10% Caramunich 2
3% Carafa 3

Extremely soft water and double decoction mash.

IBU 34
OG 1057
FG 1020

Hops Saaz, by weight add 1/3 hops at 90, 1/3 at 60 and 1/3 at 30.
Yeast: Budvar
Pitch at 8C, rise to 10-11 and lager at 2 for 42 - 72 days.

This is the Ratebeer for it and the 18^o (1074 OG!)
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/koutsky-14o-tmavy-special/69365/

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/koutsky-18o-tmavy-vano269ni-special/69369/

and the eBook (worth a read)
http://www.amazon.com/Brewery-Bohemian-Forest-Evan-Rail-ebook/dp/B00KRPY4GE/ref=la_B001MOTJ1E_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411161620&sr=1-5

[donnchadhc]

Double decoction . Can you do it on a stovetop?

[LordEoin]

or an insulated mashtun?

[donnchadhc]

or an insulated mashtun?

Was thinking of when doing the actual decoctions

[mr hoppy]

Ok, you don't really need to decoct this at all, although it is pretty cool.

Single infusion at 67 should pretty much do the trick. Maybe no harm in boiling some of the first runnings on the stove for added caramelization.

[Garry]

This thread has gone quiet. Are we emptying on Saturday? I'm around for the day anyway. I will probably do a brew for myself because I officially have a day off! I can just empty the barrel to fúck if you lads get your cornies or bottling buckets to me?

It would probably suit me better to do it during the day because herself is hosting a kitchen party that night or something!

[LordEoin]

Kitchen party! sounds like ... fun?
I'm still up for emptying anyway

[mr hoppy]

What time were ye thinking of?

[Garry]

8am to 6pm ish? Let's call it an open house for the day

[LordEoin]

will you have a fry-up ready at 8:10 ?
just kidding, I wouldn't get up that early unless the bed was on fire.

[johnrm]

I'll have to be there early as I have 2 gigs on.

[Garry]

No fry-up but I'll find something