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Shit Irish Breweries

Started by baphomite51, September 21, 2014, 08:57:10 PM

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Bubbles

Quote from: Tom on September 22, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on September 22, 2014, 01:35:29 PM
Contrast that with the perfectly conditioned cask London Pride I was drinking in the Three Tun Tavern at the weekend. On special at €1.99 a pint. I can't wait to see what the pub trade will look like in Ireland when Wetherspoons hit full stride.

Bet it was in good nick, too.

It was perfect! Carbonation, temperature, flavour.

Bubbles

Quote from: molc on September 22, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
Wetherspoons is interesting alright. Those are great prices for decent quality brews.

I do find the prices in the Galway Bay pubs a little hard to stomach. I'm happy I'm able to buy an interesting brew, but knowing the cost of making the product, it does feel like they're trying to fleece me.

The prices for their own beers are not too bad. €4 for Table. I think the Full Sail is about €5-€5.50. Not bad for arguably the freshest and best tasting IPAs produced in Ireland.

(For me, Galway Bay and Eight Degrees are two breweries that are not only making great beer but are doing a really consistent product. Always some nice experimental beers popping up regularly from them too.)

However, I do object to paying €6.80 for a pint of Punk IPA. But that's BrewDog's fault by all accounts, not the Galway Bay group.


molc

Agreed. No issue with those breweries at all. Full Sail feels like a coming of age for Irish IPA in fact. Or is it Foam and Fury. Always get those two confused.

Quote from: Bubbles on September 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PM

(For me, Galway Bay and Eight Degrees are two breweries that are not only making great beer but are doing a really consistent product. Always some nice experimental beers popping up regularly from them too.)
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Qs

Quote from: Bubbles on September 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PMHowever, I do object to paying €6.80 for a pint of Punk IPA. But that's BrewDog's fault by all accounts, not the Galway Bay group.

So I keep hearing yet its sub €5.50 in my local.

I agree on Galway Bay and 8 Degrees. Amber Ella was a fantastic beer, thats the fresh hoppy taste I want. You can add Metalman and Blacks to the list too.

molc

Don't forget Rascals. I love trying whatever they have brought out. It's always unusual and taste worthy :D
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

IrishBeerSnob

Quote from: Qs on September 22, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on September 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PMHowever, I do object to paying €6.80 for a pint of Punk IPA. But that's BrewDog's fault by all accounts, not the Galway Bay group.

So I keep hearing yet its sub €5.50 in my local.

I agree on Galway Bay and 8 Degrees. Amber Ella was a fantastic beer, thats the fresh hoppy taste I want. You can add Metalman and Blacks to the list too.

Where is that local?

Thats a great price for it.

Whitehag have shown you don't need to launch with the trinity of beers, and there are a number of breweries who are playing it safe in my opinion. The double edge sword for brewers from what i can see is getting the time to sell/distribute and brew the beers, and inevitably you may see a distributor coming in,and they've their cut to get too. Interesting times ahead. Hopefully some more interesting beers too!
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Bubbles

Quote from: molc on September 22, 2014, 02:39:45 PM
Agreed. No issue with those breweries at all. Full Sail feels like a coming of age for Irish IPA in fact. Or is it Foam and Fury. Always get those two confused.

Full Sail is the IPA. F&F is the Double/Imperial IPA, same price I think, but a smaller glass. I tend to stay away from it because of the potent ABV, but I had a glass recently and blimey... it's outstanding. Deserves all of the plaudits it gets.

Bubbles

Quote from: Qs on September 22, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on September 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PMHowever, I do object to paying €6.80 for a pint of Punk IPA. But that's BrewDog's fault by all accounts, not the Galway Bay group.

So I keep hearing yet its sub €5.50 in my local.

I agree on Galway Bay and 8 Degrees. Amber Ella was a fantastic beer, thats the fresh hoppy taste I want. You can add Metalman and Blacks to the list too.

A loss leader? :) Where's your local?

I love the Simcoe Rye that Eight Degrees have out at the moment. Fantastic.

molc

Quote from: Bubbles on September 22, 2014, 04:22:06 PM
Quote from: molc on September 22, 2014, 02:39:45 PM
Agreed. No issue with those breweries at all. Full Sail feels like a coming of age for Irish IPA in fact. Or is it Foam and Fury. Always get those two confused.

Full Sail is the IPA. F&F is the Double/Imperial IPA, same price I think, but a smaller glass. I tend to stay away from it because of the potent ABV, but I had a glass recently and blimey... it's outstanding. Deserves all of the plaudits it gets.

Yeah it's F & F I usually get. Potent, but I prefer to have less beer and more flavour. I'm only wee though, so too many of them and I'm on my ass :D

Going to give the Simcoe a try soon. Picked up a bottle at the weekend to see what it's like.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

baphomite51

completely agree 8 degrees amber ella is probably my favorite Irish beer, and galway bay do some fantastic beers that blue monday was great, these breweries are a completely different class. i dont understand how you can be so passionate about beer and decide to open a brewery and then make poor beer tho, and it doesn help when people blow smoke up their arse, if that keeps happening its like saying your settling for a poor product which is wrong, we as consumers should demand the best and let brewers know what we want and what we think

Qs

My locals Phil Healys in Wicklow Town. Upstairs had a craft bar and the Punk was always a decent price. Now it could have gone up I haven't been in there in nearly 3 months after having the stupid notion to start a family. Don't think it was a loss leader either, they just tried not to mark the beer up so much it was prohibitively expensive.

Also I think a lot of new Irish brewers have trouble on their gear. I've noticed improved quality on quite a few Irish beers that have been around for a few years now and have had the chance to put some money back into upgrading their equipment.

And I'm excited to see how Blacks and Metalmans beers do in cans.

irish_goat

Quote from: Qs on September 22, 2014, 08:36:41 PMAlso I think a lot of new Irish brewers have trouble on their gear. I've noticed improved quality on quite a few Irish beers that have been around for a few years now and have had the chance to put some money back into upgrading their equipment.

That shouldn't be an excuse though; plenty of brewers on here making great beer with basic equipment.

phoenix

Why are they releasing batches which are obviously under par to market? Do they think the punter won't notice? Do they not notice themselves? Or is money so tight they can't afford to lose a batch?
Ciaran

mr hoppy

Quote from: irish_goat on September 22, 2014, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: Qs on September 22, 2014, 08:36:41 PMAlso I think a lot of new Irish brewers have trouble on their gear. I've noticed improved quality on quite a few Irish beers that have been around for a few years now and have had the chance to put some money back into upgrading their equipment.

That shouldn't be an excuse though; plenty of brewers on here making great beer with basic equipment.

I've heard commercial brewers say sanitation is a much bigger issue if you are brewing on a commercial system twice a day every day than if you're home brewing less frequently.

baphomite51

Quote from: Qs on September 22, 2014, 08:36:41 PM

And I'm excited to see how Blacks and Metalmans beers do in cans.

cant wait for the cans blacks pale ale is brilliant another favourit.