oxidised beers

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Very unlikely it had anything to do with Tesco, if anything they champion the consumer by demanding freshest beer from suppliers.

[donnchadhc]

Very unlikely it had anything to do with Tesco, if anything they champion the consumer by demanding freshest beer from suppliers.

And then leave them on a shelf at room temp after storing them in a non-refrigerated warehouse. I'll always avoid buying beers that are anyway hoppy from Tesco, have had too many bad experiences with bad beer there.

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

It's a case of shooting the messenger, properly brewed/packaged beer will be able to stand up to being stored at warehouse temperatures. Extra hops were originally added to beer to protect the beer on route to India, Jamaica etc all a lot warmer than Tesco

[Qs]

To be fair the beer that was shipped to India was hugely altered by the temps and travel.

IMO the Tesco thing isn't an excuse though. If Tesco stores your beer in a way that makes it taste less than its designed to then don't sell it to them. Or if you want to take their money accept its your choice when people complain about the taste of your beer.

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

That or work on reducing dissolved oxygen from your process, and thereby increase the stability and shelf life of your beer

[donnchadhc]

All true and fair points, but even bottles Fullers India Pale Ale from Tesco is heavily oxidized when I get it there. Same for Proper Job. I take your point, but there is also an onus on the reseller to ensure proper storage of their produce. Also it shows a huge disrespect to beer as a product I think, they take care of the heads of lettuce and that's much more fragile a product!

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

A lesson for all of us, look at the back label for the best before date as well as looking at the fancy front label :-)
Budweiser to their credit are still the only ones with a born on date.... And before everyone jumps on me I know, not without reason, but it would be good to see others follow suit, regardless who makes it fresher is better!!

[Rossa]

A lesson for all of us, look at the back label for the best before date as well as looking at the fancy front label :-)
Budweiser to their credit are still the only ones with a born on date.... And before everyone jumps on me I know, not without reason, but it would be good to see others follow suit, regardless who makes it fresher is better!!

I think it was Augustus Busch that cryogenically froze bottles of bud to see how the beer changed over the years. He was horrified at the results. They had dumbed down the beer hugely over the years. They were mad for freshness and were at the packaging forefront in the states back in the day.


I contacted a brewery about a bad bottle I had and they were swift to act and went to the shop where I bought it to investigate. It didn't help that the shop had most of their beer on shelves in the window in the middle of summer basically cooking. There is only so much breweries can do at times.

[donnchadhc]

A lesson for all of us, look at the back label for the best before date as well as looking at the fancy front label :-)
Budweiser to their credit are still the only ones with a born on date.... And before everyone jumps on me I know, not without reason, but it would be good to see others follow suit, regardless who makes it fresher is better!!

127% agree!! Anybody read Bitter Brew?

[Qs]

Some American imports have a bottled on date.

Does anyone know how long the Irish breweries give their beer for the best before?

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Usually 180 days

[cruiscinlan]

I had about 10 bottles of that stuff and it was superb

All the ones I had of it before then were lovely as well.