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Kits in the 2015 Competition.

Started by LordEoin, November 10, 2014, 11:30:38 AM

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LordEoin

November 10, 2014, 11:30:38 AM Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 03:22:02 PM by LordEoin
I've secured a few Beersmith Keys for the highest scoring kits in the 2015 Competition.
The idea is to get some of the best kit brewers and new brewers the tools they need to try their hand at all grain and extract later on, or just to up their kit quality even further :)

Two rules though:
1 - Please don't enter if you've already got a copy of beersmith.
2 - Kit hacks allowed. Add hops, yeast, specialty grain, etc. But no Mashing.

Parky

Well done on getting those keys! Lovely idea to encourage kit brewers to get involved and put in an entry into the 2015 competition.

Sounds like a nice challenge - game on!  ;)

Chris

Nice I have a hacked Brewferm Bock kit on and am going to stick on a milestone kit this week.
Primary: Back to Black Again (Michael Jackson stout)
Secondary:
Conditioning:  Breac Donn Imperial Amber Ale
Drinking: Cascade Reaction Amber Ale, Fear Gorm Irish stout, lonesome pilgrim pale ale
Planned: imperial stout, finlandia kit hack

LordEoin

make sure to keep some for the competition so :)

Will_D

Indeed the very first National Comp had a kit competion section. Unfortunately the registration software we used was a bit strained as to identifying the kits.

The second Nats. iirc did not support kits!

We really need to encourage kit brewers to enter!!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

LordEoin

There's plenty of kit beers entered and I think it's only right that they're treated the same as extract or AG in the judging. No need for any additional support or classification. After all the competition is about the beer, not the method. :)

Chris


Quote from: LordEoin on November 10, 2014, 11:15:12 PM
There's plenty of kit beers entered and I think it's only right that they're treated the same as extract or AG in the judging. No need for any additional support or classification. After all the competition is about the beer, not the method. :)
Agree 100% it was great to see kits and extract brews with high scores last year and take a few medals.
Primary: Back to Black Again (Michael Jackson stout)
Secondary:
Conditioning:  Breac Donn Imperial Amber Ale
Drinking: Cascade Reaction Amber Ale, Fear Gorm Irish stout, lonesome pilgrim pale ale
Planned: imperial stout, finlandia kit hack

Will_D

Quote from: LordEoin on November 10, 2014, 11:15:12 PM
There's plenty of kit beers entered and I think it's only right that they're treated the same as extract or AG in the judging. No need for any additional support or classification. After all the competition is about the beer, not the method. :)

NOT TRUE!

A lot of newbee, kit brewers will not enter the Nats as they "stand NO chance viz. a viz. the AG brewers (or even the extracters)"

Therefore they don't enter! This is bad for the hobby!

A dedicated sub comp for kits encourages kit brewers to at least enter the comp and stand a chance of winning a prize!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

LordEoin


Will_D

This bit:

"No need for any additional support or classification"

All I'm saying is that we are trying to encourage new brewers to enter the competition.

This sentiment is in agreement with one of your earlier posts:

"I've secured a few Beersmith Keys for the highest scoring kits in the 2015 Competition.
The idea is to get some of the best kit brewers and new brewers the tools they need to try their hand at all grain and extract later on"

And well done on getting the Beersmith keys for the new brewers!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

LordEoin

Surely that's true for any beer, regardless of how it was brewed...

The competition a great way to get honest and constructive feedback about the beer you're brewing.
Club meets are grand and all but feedback is rarely unbiased and feedback like 'not bad for a kit' or 'nothing wrong with that' isn't particularly helpful.
I'd encourage anyone to enter any beer they think has potential.

LordEoin

entering bad beer is a poor strategy for any brewing competition.
but if someone wants to enter a bad beer for shits and giggles, that's their own business.
I'm sure there'll be plenty of bad AG and extract beers entered too

JayMc

I'd enter a bad beer for the craic. I've only done 1 brew and working on a second. I'd love to enter a comp but have no idea how to brew AG.
Might as well do it for the experience and a bit of a laugh.

Obviously I'd rather enter a good beer but i'm never quite sure how well they'll turn our or what I forgot to do  :P

Where can I find the details of the comp?
Head Brewer
3 Brewers, Toronto

Bubbles

Quote from: JayMc on November 25, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
I'd enter a bad beer for the craic.

If you already know it tastes bad, why waste your money and the judge's time (and tastebuds)? The judge is just going write a couple of comments that it's crap and give you a low score.

You'd be much better off heading along to a local home brewers meet and asking for feedback on what you're doing wrong, rather than entering it in a competition.

Tom

Especially given that BJCP judges are spread out all over Ireland, reside mainly in pubs and/or sheds and meet regularly with other homebrewers.

They're very easy to spot in pubs too. Watch them sniff their drink. That's how you know. Doesn't even have to be beer. It can be tea or MiWadi, they'll sniff it.

Get thee to a local meet!