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Nelson Sauvin - adapted Mikkeller Clone

Started by krockett, January 11, 2015, 10:35:51 PM

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krockett

Hi,

Just finished a mostly Nelson Sauvin APA. I based it on the recipe for Mikkeller's Nelson Sauvin Imperial IPA.

This is supposed to be Mikeller's recipe:

67% pilsner malt
11% Cara-Crystal
11% Munich II
11% Flaked Oats

I did a couple of IIPAs over Christmas and wont be doing them again any time soon - I like being able to enjoy a few beers and not have a raging hangover the next morning. I adapted the recipe to try and hit 5%.
However I accidentally bought caramunich instead of Munich. I realised this today as my water was heating. I decided to use 400 grammes of Wheat Malt (closes thing to a base malt I had) instead of the Munich.

The Mikeller recipe is supposed to result in 100 IBUs (and about 7% ABV). I had feedback on another thread here about having too much crystal in a recipe - that bringing the IBUs up can help counter act the sweetness. I added a couple of additional hop additions, bringing the total IBUs to 50.

This is how the recipe is looking on Brewtarget:





OG turned out to be 1048. I'll be dry hopping this with 2 oz of Nelson Sauvin.
I'm not optimistic how this will be turning out. I suspect it might be a disaster.

What do you think?

Qs

I don't think it'll be a disaster. It'll probably be quite cloudy but I'd imagine it'll be pretty tasty with it. And 1.048 for your OG it'll likely be a nice easy drinker rather than those IIPAs. I'd imagine it'll be pretty sweet with 13% crystal malt in there but thats not necessarily a bad thing. Especially with 50 IBUs for balance.

markc

That looks really good. What yeast will you use? With the wheat and oats, it will be cloudy as Qs says, but, that wouldnt matter to me at all. All my IPA's and PA's this last year have included wheat or oats or a combo. The 'loss' in appearance is made up in the mouthfeel. If it was me, I would drop the 5 and 10 min additions and add them at flameout with the 0min additions. Nelson is such an amazing flavour and aroma hop, I'd try and minimise boiling off any of those precious oils. You can get some great hop flavour if you split your 0min additions in two, add the first half at flameout, then, start chilling. When you hit 82 c, add the rest, stop chilling and let it sit for 30 mins or so, you wont be driving off any volatile oils below 82c.

Cheers,
Mark

krockett

Thanks guys - it is the amount of IBUs I am worried about.  Normally you would only see maybe up to 40 IBUs for a Pale Ale  - and this one is very light in malt.

If this is nice I'll be amazed. I've read on a couple of forums about Nelson-based single hops with IBUs in the 40s being very strange - and not that nice.

Good input Mark - wish I had done this.