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The Homebrew company Double IPA mash kit

Started by mrmeindl, March 07, 2015, 03:58:29 PM

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mrmeindl

March 07, 2015, 03:58:29 PM Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 10:41:30 PM by mrmeindl
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armedcor

Where you moving the chiller the whole time while you were chilling?

Garry

You worked hard for that beer. It'll be good  ;)

dcalnan

What I do for whirlpooling is, cool the wort with the coil , then when it reaches around 25 i take it out and then do the whirlpool, leave it settle and then transfer to the fermenter. Also its pretty easy to install a second element in the plastic boiler, I have to get around to it soon.

HomeBrewWest

March 08, 2015, 02:21:25 AM #4 Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 03:38:31 AM by HomeBrewWest
Saucepan lid is an interesting idea. Very innovative, presuming all steel. But interfering with whirlpool?

I'm wondering if there is there is any real solution to that. Even a false bottom would interfere too. Hmmm.

I'm thinking about the way a lid would behave on top of an element that is boiling 25 litres or more of wort, probably bouncing around everywhere?

We are also trying to find a solution, but its becoming a catch 22. You generally get what you pay for. The UK is very competitive in this arena, but no solutions there? Safety concerns possibly; they won't risk it. All good I think, homemade bucket+element solutions seem to be gone. All HBS in Ireland North And South are now using Peco boilers.

Brouwland have effective solutions, but they are many times the price.

Innovative low cost boiler solutions? We have them, but the problem is that anything that interferes with the element will void manufacturers warranties, and leave us in a pickle.

Unfortunately we can't advise using a pot lid . . . . if we did, and the element came loose and boiling wort hurt short people and cutie puppies, we would be in big trouble!


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auralabuse

Quote from: mrmeindl on March 07, 2015, 03:58:29 PM
Well for my first all grain brew I did the Double IPA with the BIAB starter kit from THC. Things I learned;


  • The Peco boiler is a rip off really - it's a kettle element in a bucket! I'm not disparaging THC I'm sure it's cost price is taking the piss too, I'm scrounging around for a couple of kegs now to hopefully have a MT & BV separate vessels and not have to dick around with a bag. It took a loooong time to get to the boil after mashing
  • The copper immersion chiller took forever to bring the temp down for me to add the yeast, had it in the boil for 10-15 mins to sanitise it and of course the garden hose came off and flooded the kitchen once the water was flowing... That'll be done outside next time
  • I went with a old fashioned cheap thermometer which I promptly dropped and broke as I'd chilled down to nearly 20C, thermapen ordered today for brew #2
  • I didn't bother taking a SG reading after adding the yeast as my head was wrecked with the aforementioned flooding! Next time I'll go to the effort
  • I had a saucepan lid at the bottom of the boiler to prevent the bag touching the element - this fucked with the whirlpooling and the crud fucked with the syphon so I just ended up tipping all the chilled wort into my fermenter.
  • My cheap black plastic capper was a nightmare when bottling, going to buy a bench capper for the next brew. I also need to get one of these to make bottling less nightmarish
  • I'm going to either buy a hop bag or just use the biab bag for when I'm adding the hops just to reduce the sediment
  • Even after my calamitous first brew I still made very drinkable beer :-D

How exactly do you whirlpool when using an immersion chiller?
Sounds like you enjoyed that brewday ,  I got a submersible pump for 15 quid,  attached some silicon hose to it with jubilee clips and my immersion chiller and just drop it in a bucket of ice n water and turn on the pump,  re circulate back into the bucket.  It's really neat and does the job nice n quick.  Cheap as chips too

auralabuse

Quote from: mrmeindl on March 08, 2015, 05:10:32 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 08, 2015, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: mrmeindl on March 07, 2015, 03:58:29 PM
Well for my first all grain brew I did the Double IPA with the BIAB starter kit from THC. Things I learned;


  • The Peco boiler is a rip off really - it's a kettle element in a bucket! I'm not disparaging THC I'm sure it's cost price is taking the piss too, I'm scrounging around for a couple of kegs now to hopefully have a MT & BV separate vessels and not have to dick around with a bag. It took a loooong time to get to the boil after mashing
  • The copper immersion chiller took forever to bring the temp down for me to add the yeast, had it in the boil for 10-15 mins to sanitise it and of course the garden hose came off and flooded the kitchen once the water was flowing... That'll be done outside next time
  • I went with a old fashioned cheap thermometer which I promptly dropped and broke as I'd chilled down to nearly 20C, thermapen ordered today for brew #2
  • I didn't bother taking a SG reading after adding the yeast as my head was wrecked with the aforementioned flooding! Next time I'll go to the effort
  • I had a saucepan lid at the bottom of the boiler to prevent the bag touching the element - this fucked with the whirlpooling and the crud fucked with the syphon so I just ended up tipping all the chilled wort into my fermenter.
  • My cheap black plastic capper was a nightmare when bottling, going to buy a bench capper for the next brew. I also need to get one of these to make bottling less nightmarish
  • I'm going to either buy a hop bag or just use the biab bag for when I'm adding the hops just to reduce the sediment
  • Even after my calamitous first brew I still made very drinkable beer :-D

How exactly do you whirlpool when using an immersion chiller?
Sounds like you enjoyed that brewday ,  I got a submersible pump for 15 quid,  attached some silicon hose to it with jubilee clips and my immersion chiller and just drop it in a bucket of ice n water and turn on the pump,  re circulate back into the bucket.  It's really neat and does the job nice n quick.  Cheap as chips too

Could you throw up a picture of the pump you use? Looking on ebay there's some comically small looking pumps for about €6!
Yep,  working for a few days will put it up then

krockett

You don't need to boil the chiller for 15 minutes to sanitise it. You need to wipe the chiller clean, but more than a few seconds at boiling temperature will kill anything that could contaminate the batch. I dont have the link here but was researching this recently.





auralabuse




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Yep,  working for a few days will put it up then
   
Quote from: auralabuse on March 08, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: mrmeindl on March 08, 2015, 05:10:32 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 08, 2015, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: mrmeindl on March 07, 2015, 03:58:29 PM
Well for my first all grain brew I did the Double IPA with the BIAB starter kit from THC. Things I learned;


  • The Peco boiler is a rip off really - it's a kettle element in a bucket! I'm not disparaging THC I'm sure it's cost price is taking the piss too, I'm scrounging around for a couple of kegs now to hopefully have a MT & BV separate vessels and not have to dick around with a bag. It took a loooong time to get to the boil after mashing
  • The copper immersion chiller took forever to bring the temp down for me to add the yeast, had it in the boil for 10-15 mins to sanitise it and of course the garden hose came off and flooded the kitchen once the water was flowing... That'll be done outside next time
  • I went with a old fashioned cheap thermometer which I promptly dropped and broke as I'd chilled down to nearly 20C, thermapen ordered today for brew #2
  • I didn't bother taking a SG reading after adding the yeast as my head was wrecked with the aforementioned flooding! Next time I'll go to the effort
  • I had a saucepan lid at the bottom of the boiler to prevent the bag touching the element - this fucked with the whirlpooling and the crud fucked with the syphon so I just ended up tipping all the chilled wort into my fermenter.
  • My cheap black plastic capper was a nightmare when bottling, going to buy a bench capper for the next brew. I also need to get one of these to make bottling less nightmarish
  • I'm going to either buy a hop bag or just use the biab bag for when I'm adding the hops just to reduce the sediment
  • Even after my calamitous first brew I still made very drinkable beer :-D

How exactly do you whirlpool when using an immersion chiller?
Sounds like you enjoyed that brewday ,  I got a submersible pump for 15 quid,  attached some silicon hose to it with jubilee clips and my immersion chiller and just drop it in a bucket of ice n water and turn on the pump,  re circulate back into the bucket.  It's really neat and does the job nice n quick.  Cheap as chips too

Could you throw up a picture of the pump you use? Looking on ebay there's some comically small looking pumps for about €6!
Yep,  working for a few days will put it up then

auralabuse

Quote from: TheEnthusiast on March 09, 2015, 10:26:55 PM
You don't need to boil the chiller for 15 minutes to sanitise it. You need to wipe the chiller clean, but more than a few seconds at boiling temperature will kill anything that could contaminate the batch. I dont have the link here but was researching this recently.
Sorry about the big quote,  tapatalk is pretty naf for replies