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Cask Sour

Started by Will_D, March 11, 2015, 07:22:15 PM

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bigvalen

Jacob & Seb. 43L
Molc: ~20L @ 1.064
Simon: 24L
Bigvalen: 21L @1.063
Nigel 25L @ 1.062
Will 22L @ 1.065
Jolley Brewer 21L @1.055

Any ideas when we will be taking this to a cask ? I'm moving out of home in 2 or 3 weeks, so wouldn't be looking forward to transporting it more than once.

Will_D

John: Realistically it will be towards end of June/Early July for filling.

if timing is a problem then once into secondary/tertiary drop it to someome nearbye!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

molc

I'm gone for the second part of June to "foreign parts", so July works perfectly for me. No rush though - I'm just going to throw it into a keg to condition until the cask is ready.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Rats

Jacob & Seb. 43L
Molc: ~20L @ 1.064
Simon: 24L
Bigvalen: 21L @1.063
Nigel 25L @ 1.062
Will 22L @ 1.065
Jolley Brewer 21L @1.055
Rats 22L @ 1.060

Total : 198L
I drive way to fast to worry about cholesterol

nigel_c

Nice. Were nearly there. So anyone else get the brew on over the weekend?
Who is left to brew?

Pat_buttercups

Jacob & Seb. 43L
Molc: ~20L @ 1.064
Simon: 24L
Bigvalen: 21L @1.063
Nigel 25L @ 1.062
Will 22L @ 1.065
Jolley Brewer 21L @1.055
Rats 22L @ 1.060
Pat 16L @ 1.071

Total : 214L

Will_D

Rember: Meet up in Fowlers tomorrow!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

Boycott

Quote from: nigel_c on March 19, 2015, 11:07:57 PM
Sorry have been away for the last few days.

Bit or reading for anyone unsure what the plan is.
http://byo.com/videos/item/975-lambic-brewing

I'd suggest we brew 22ish liter batches to give 20 delivered to the barrel.

Beer :NCB Lambic 17d
Batch size. 22L
OG 1.067
If drops to 1.004 -6 will be an 8% beer.  ( We can drop this is people prefer a lower % beer.)

Mash 90 mins @ 70c
The longer hot mash leaves the max amount of long chain fermentable sugars the bugs can feed on after initial fermentation.

Yeast. WLP500 would be ideal but it should not make a massive difference. US-05 should be fine. 
Grain:
Pilsner Malt 5.00 Kg
Flaked Wheat 1.50Kg
The flaked wheat is also used for bug food later on.

Hops
Any hop to 5 IBU (the older the staler the better. Dig deep to the back of the hops stores.)

Bugs/Bacteria
So far it appears our beloved barrel is brettanomyces infected.
I have a sour ready to rack we can use to inoculate the cask but I'd prefer to let the base beer sit in the cask a few weeks before we add the bugs. This allows the brett to do its thing before the ph drops too much from the other souring bugs and should give the best result.
If people prefer we can get some WLP655 Belgian sour mix2.

Anyway, what do people think so far?

Is the wheat to be milled yes?

nigel_c


Boycott

Cool, brewing her tomorrow

molc

Going to keg tomorrow. Got mine to finish at 1.012
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Boycott


Jacob & Seb. 43L
Molc: ~20L @ 1.064
Simon: 24L
Bigvalen: 21L @1.063
Nigel 25L @ 1.062
Will 22L @ 1.065
Jolley Brewer 21L @1.055
Rats 22L @ 1.060
Pat 16L @ 1.071
DCBrewing 19L @1.055

Total : 235L

Partridge9

Sorry lads -

really stupid question alert



but where is the recipe for this one ?

molc

Quote from: Partridge9 on June 02, 2015, 05:58:41 PM
but where is the recipe for this one ?

Can't seem to figure out how to link a particular post, so quote time. I used 5.4kg pilsner, as I only get 70% efficiency, whereas Nigel seems to have his brew foo down to a tee :D

Quote from: nigel_c on March 19, 2015, 11:07:57 PM
Sorry have been away for the last few days.

Bit or reading for anyone unsure what the plan is.
http://byo.com/videos/item/975-lambic-brewing

I'd suggest we brew 22ish liter batches to give 20 delivered to the barrel.

Beer :NCB Lambic 17d
Batch size. 22L
OG 1.067
If drops to 1.004 -6 will be an 8% beer.  ( We can drop this is people prefer a lower % beer.)

Mash 90 mins @ 70c
The longer hot mash leaves the max amount of long chain fermentable sugars the bugs can feed on after initial fermentation.

Yeast. WLP500 would be ideal but it should not make a massive difference. US-05 should be fine. 
Grain:
Pilsner Malt 5.00 Kg
Flaked Wheat 1.50Kg
The flaked wheat is also used for bug food later on.

Hops
Any hop to 5 IBU (the older the staler the better. Dig deep to the back of the hops stores.)

Bugs/Bacteria
So far it appears our beloved barrel is brettanomyces infected.
I have a sour ready to rack we can use to inoculate the cask but I'd prefer to let the base beer sit in the cask a few weeks before we add the bugs. This allows the brett to do its thing before the ph drops too much from the other souring bugs and should give the best result.
If people prefer we can get some WLP655 Belgian sour mix2.

Anyway, what do people think so far?
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

nigel_c

Transferred mine to secondary today.  Tastes nice. Like a sweet triple. Got a nice amount of creamy healthy yeast I plan on using for a westy 12 clone at the weekend hopefully. You know, Christmas is coming and all that. :)