Brown Box Brew - The All Grain subscription box

[Qs]

If you can't "get close" to €10 I don't think I'd be interested. You are getting very close to the price of a 5 gallon batch of beer at that stage.

Now that said if your recipes are actually unusual and interesting I might be interested if I thought I'd learning something new, or getting a flavour for something I might later do a big batch of.

Or possibly do a 5 gallon option at some stage.

Thats my feedback anyway. Hope it helps.

[beanstalk]

Is he not just asking you to sign up for more info when it comes? Surely then you can decide whether to pay?

[Acott]

Acott first off a good idea but like LE and others alluded to there are more pitfalls with what you are trying to do than say if you were a HBS selling mash kits.To be honest although it is early days yet you are giving us little to no solid information but asking us to sign up to an unknown entity,basically you are asking us to take it on faith,sorry boss but that 'aint happening.

You say you cant get near €7-€10 because of couriers but you have not actually said what your starting price is,you should have some idea and tbh it is only fair that you say what it is before asking us to sign up.

Look i wish you the best i really do but it is a bit cheeky to come on here and basically say " hey lads  we are starting this new service for one gallon batches,why don't ye take out a subscription and then i will let ye know what pricing etc will be",can you see where i am coming from ?

I would be interested also as i am winding down my brewing for various reasons but i certainly am not going to hand over money and not know what it is going to cost etc first.

Cheers Greg, I appreciate the feedback.

At the minute I'm not asking people to register for the actual subscription it's a mailing list to gauge interest.

With regards the pricing, I don't want to give you a figure and then have to track back if it's more expensive, that would reflect badly.

I had to divulge the idea in order to gauge interest, I understand there is a certain air of mystery around it, and I have been trying to clear up as much as I can, I'm open to questions 

[beerfly]

I like the idea.
will be intresting to see how it pans out when more info is available

[johnrm]

One cost-cut would be to do group drops.

As spread out as we are, there are clusters of us, so this may work you your advantage Mr. Stern Moustache

Remember - To go to the shop in your car for a pint of milk can cost you a few Euro.

[Acott]

If you can't "get close" to €10 I don't think I'd be interested. You are getting very close to the price of a 5 gallon batch of beer at that stage.

Now that said if your recipes are actually unusual and interesting I might be interested if I thought I'd learning something new, or getting a flavour for something I might later do a big batch of.

Or possibly do a 5 gallon option at some stage.

Thats my feedback anyway. Hope it helps.

Cheers Q, just out of 'Q'uriosity ( see what I did there  ) what is the maximum you would pay, delivery included?

I like the idea.
will be intresting to see how it pans out when more info is available

Cheers Beerfly

One cost-cut would be to do group drops.

As spread out as we are, there are clusters of us, so this may work you your advantage Mr. Stern Moustache

Remember - To go to the shop in your car for a pint of milk can cost you a few Euro.

True, the major thing the courier wants is numbers which I can understand...once I can get a decent price on the postage then everything else should fall in to place.

[Greg2013]

Fair enough so if it is just to gauge interest at this point i will say again i would be interested.Can i ask have you priced the cost of the actual packages minus the courier yet ? We can't really give you any substantive feedback at this point without more info i'm afraid but the idea sounds good if you can do it correctly that is.

However i will reiterate a point someone else made earlier,there are plenty 5 gallon mash kits available through the stores here,some medal winning(HBC?) and they all come in around a nominal €13-€20 euro but bear in mind these are full 23 litre batches.

You are offering a kit that is 1/5 of that so bearing that in mind if you can't price it at say €10 roughly then tbh i would see little point in buying one.Most of the HBS here if we ring them up and ask them to knock up a specific mash kit to our recipe are usually accomodating for the prices mentioned above(although i have never put this to the test myself yet).

I would expect if your one gallon kit comes to say €15 then you will get little long term takeup as we can get a five gallon version made up for the same price from any of the home brew stores as stands.

[Qs]

Cheers Q, just out of 'Q'uriosity ( see what I did there  ) what is the maximum you would pay, delivery included?

I'd say €12 would be the absolute max for me and that'd have to be for some interesting kits.

I'm surprised the couriers are being such a problem. You'd think they'd appreciate a business like this where the deliveries would be on a consistent schedule rather than the normal brew shops where they deliver as things are ordered.

I'll add too that although I brew AG myself I'd probably be just as interested in an extract version of your product, if not more so due to the time saving given its just a 1 gallon batch.

[Greg2013]

I will agree with Qs for such a small brew the extract is the way to go,so much easier for both vendor and brewer alike.

[Acott]

Cheers Q, just out of 'Q'uriosity ( see what I did there  ) what is the maximum you would pay, delivery included?

I'll add too that although I brew AG myself I'd probably be just as interested in an extract version of your product, if not more so due to the time saving given its just a 1 gallon batch.

I will agree with Qs for such a small brew the extract is the way to go,so much easier for both vendor and brewer alike.

Good idea lads, I'll investigate further!

[molc]

Yeah the extract is a great point. Mashing such a small amount of grains would be so damn fiddly.

[LordEoin]

Nah, it's easy.
If I do a gallon brew I use a 7liter stock pot, BIAB.
Get it to mash temp, put it on the ground on a few layers of cardboard and wrapped in a couple of sleeping bags.
It holds the temperature within about a degree for an hour, no problem.

[molc]

Oh good to know. I tried once in my mash tun and it just lost temperature like a mofo!

[Greg2013]

Nah, it's easy.
If I do a gallon brew I use a 7liter stock pot, BIAB.
Get it to mash temp, put it on the ground on a few layers of cardboard and wrapped in a couple of sleeping bags.
It holds the temperature within about a degree for an hour, no problem.

Interesting as i am about to attempt my very first BIAB in my keggle and was wondering what was the best way to get it to hold mash temp.

[johnrm]

Small batch is a lot easier than you think. As Eoin pointed out, wrapping in quilts to maintain temp works very well.
The real fun will be when it comes to ferm temp control.
A small volume will be more susceptible to temp change.