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fishjam45 (Colin)

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Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« on: June 21, 2019, 07:37:40 PM »
I was given a kveik lager strain from The Wicklow Hops Company to try out and I gave it a go.  We didnt know much about the strain or how to treat it so I basically treated it like any other kveik.  I pretty much used an old recipe we were given at Brewcon a few years back, nice and simple grist and hop bill.

Here's how I got on ...

Water treated to "Light Coloured & Malty" Profile.

Recipe:
92% Pilsner Malt
8% Munich Malt

25g Magnum @ 60min
.5 Whirfloc + 1.5tsp yeast nutrient @ 15min
25g Hallertau Mittelfruh @ 10min
25g Hallertau Mittelfruh @ Whirlpool

Mash:
63 degrees for 20min
72 degrees for 15min
78 degrees for 10min

Ferment at 35
The yeast had dropped right out in the fermentor too leaving a nice compact yeast cake in the bottom.

Brewday - Friday 14th June OG 1.042
Sunday - 1.016
Monday - 1.013
Tuesday - 1.011 FG

I kegged it on Wednesday night and gave it a little force carbing so I could bring it to our club meet on the Thursday for everybody to taste.
No ramping up, or crash chilling or gelatin was used as I really wanted to see what this yeast is capable of and I have to say that I'm very impressed - to me its a game changer. Never would I have dreamed of turning around a lager so quickly.  I'm looking forward to lagering it for a couple of weeks so it can drop nice and clear and see how the flavour develops.  Its already a clean, crisp and well attenuated lager.

All in all, I got a very good lager from grain to glass in 6 days.

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 10:57:12 PM »
That's the lagertha strain yeah? Wouldn't mind having a nice helles style beer on tap for the good weather.

Thanks for all the detail - it's great to see how you approached it - pretty much a standard recipe.
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fishjam45 (Colin)

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 11:38:18 PM »
Nope it’s not the Lagertha.
According to Twitter, HBC have it for sale now.

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 11:45:28 PM »
Am i reading that right, Ferment at 35 C

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2019, 12:04:24 AM »
Nope it’s not the Lagertha.
According to Twitter, HBC have it for sale now.
Thanks! Yeah not on the website yet but I just saw the Twitter post. Def picking up a vial and doing it soon.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2019, 10:32:25 AM »
Am i reading that right, Ferment at 35 C
Yep, sounds mad. Clean ferment, none of the off flavours that you’d usually expect from abusing a traditional yeast at such high temps.

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2019, 10:50:28 AM »
I'm bringing a growler of it to Rascals today if anybody wants a taste of it.

Its now a week and a day since its been brewed so it could be past its best by now though  :)

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2019, 09:59:43 AM »
It goes back to March and was isolated by Bootleg Biology from a raw beer by Eik and Tid which was kveik fermented. It's called OSLO. There's a lot of reviews available on the Bootleg Biology facebook site andMilk the Funk.
https://bootlegbiology.com/product/oslo/
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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2019, 02:46:05 PM »
It goes back to March and was isolated by Bootleg Biology from a raw beer by Eik and Tid which was kveik fermented. It's called OSLO. There's a lot of reviews available on the Bootleg Biology facebook site andMilk the Funk.
https://bootlegbiology.com/product/oslo/

I'm not sure where the original yeast was sourced from to be honest.

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2019, 10:22:02 AM »
Fishjam: is this the yeast you used: http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/whc-irish-liquid-yeast-ubbe-lager-yeast-p-4918.html

(it says flocculation:medium - was that your experience? Was hoping for a high floccer)

Edit: Philip from WHC says its a misprint, that its a highly flocculant strain.
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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2019, 09:35:33 AM »
Yes, that's the one.

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2019, 10:50:29 AM »
Next pitch is a belgian ale, that has some yeast purchased for it. After that I am going to pitch the Ugge yeast, probably into a pale ale or IPA. I am in need of a clean fermenting strain that drops bright at higher temperatures, and harvesting actually sounds fun.

Would a single vial of this go straight into 55L of 1.050+ wort ? kveiks break all the pitching rules that I am aware of, should I make a starter instead? What nutrient do you use, and how much to use?

Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2019, 06:13:35 PM »
I haven't tried at that pitching yeast for that particular strain. But that pitching rate has worked for other strains in the past so I see no reason why not.




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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2019, 08:29:32 PM »
Well thanks to a no chill cube going infected, some room has opened up in my brewing schedule. I reckon I will have a go at this in the next couple of weeks.

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Re: Grain to Glass 6 Day Lager
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2019, 10:20:28 PM »
Fishjam: is this the yeast you used: http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/whc-irish-liquid-yeast-ubbe-lager-yeast-p-4918.html

(it says flocculation:medium - was that your experience? Was hoping for a high floccer)

Edit: Philip from WHC says its a misprint, that its a highly flocculant strain.
I just used it there during the week and can confirm it flocs like a fl**ker :D It's crazy quick and really gets out of the way.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter