Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
Smithwicks have just launched their winter ale competition. It's a homebrew competition aimed at finding a "winter ale", so essentially they are looking for something like a red ale, porter or stout. The only restriction is on what hops to use; Admiral; Magnum; Challenger; UK Goldings; Willamette; Saaz. You get 100g of Admiral hops just for registering as well.
The prize is €1,000 plus the opportunity to brew 1000 litres on the pilot plant in St.James Gate and see your beer appear nationwide and in your local. There'll be a swanky awards do as well and all the palaver you'd expect that goes with it if you win. Judging will be done by a mix of people including homebrewers and master brewers. It won't be done to BJCP guidelines but rather be done subjectively, i.e. they're just looking for a good beer. Kit beers are allowed and if they win the brewers will try to deconstruct the recipe and convert it to all-grain.
Full details plus how to enter are here. https://smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
From a club point of view, I hope we get some entries and I'd like to think someone in the club will win. I'm aware that not everyone (myself included) are big fans of macro breweries but I see it as a great opportunity for the club to get some publicity and get new members. Journalists such as Rick O'Shea will be taking part and talking about the competition on air and will plug the NHC and sites such as the journal.ie (http://www.thejournal.ie/) are willing to do articles for us.
If anyone has questions feel free to fire away. :)
The prize is €1,000 plus the opportunity to brew 1000 litres on the pilot plant in St.James Gate and see your beer appear nationwide and in your local. There'll be a swanky awards do as well and all the palaver you'd expect that goes with it if you win. Judging will be done by a mix of people including homebrewers and master brewers. It won't be done to BJCP guidelines but rather be done subjectively, i.e. they're just looking for a good beer. Kit beers are allowed and if they win the brewers will try to deconstruct the recipe and convert it to all-grain.
Full details plus how to enter are here. https://smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
From a club point of view, I hope we get some entries and I'd like to think someone in the club will win. I'm aware that not everyone (myself included) are big fans of macro breweries but I see it as a great opportunity for the club to get some publicity and get new members. Journalists such as Rick O'Shea will be taking part and talking about the competition on air and will plug the NHC and sites such as the journal.ie (http://www.thejournal.ie/) are willing to do articles for us.
If anyone has questions feel free to fire away. :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Paul B on September 15, 2015, 05:20:32 PM
Post by: Paul B on September 15, 2015, 05:20:32 PM
Hi Thomas, there's some confusion happening on whatsapp on whether stouts are allowed. They are technically ales but... Do you know where they sit on this? Also, do admiral hops *have* to go into the brew or can you use any of the listed hops on from the website, e.g. magnum only.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on September 15, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
Post by: armedcor on September 15, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
On the site it says the admiral hops must be used. I'd be interested to know if a stouts accepted though.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 05:39:49 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 05:39:49 PM
Stouts are fine, afaik. They do say you have to use the Admiral hops, but I will double check both questions. In reality, I don't see how they can prove you did or didn't use them.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on September 15, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: molc on September 15, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Entries ready by 27th October. Going to be tight to get it brewed and conditioned. Basically need to brew in the next 7 days but how long before the hops come out?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 05:56:54 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: molc on September 15, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Entries ready by 27th October. Going to be tight to get it brewed and conditioned.
Yep. It was due to be launched last week, not sure what the hold up was. A nice red ale or porter brewed this weekend would be ready in time though. :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on September 15, 2015, 05:59:07 PM
Post by: molc on September 15, 2015, 05:59:07 PM
Yup but when do they send out the hops. If we're late because they come out late, do we get in trouble etc?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 06:06:12 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 06:06:12 PM
Some of you need to get your cheque books ready!
T&C's
13. Entrants warrant that any homebrew ale submitted is of good drinkable quality, free from irritants, chemicals or other substances that could cause harm. Entrants agree to indemnify the Promoter against any personal injury, loss or damage caused as a result of consumption of an entrant's product.
We'd be millionaires if we did that for the Nationals :P
T&C's
13. Entrants warrant that any homebrew ale submitted is of good drinkable quality, free from irritants, chemicals or other substances that could cause harm. Entrants agree to indemnify the Promoter against any personal injury, loss or damage caused as a result of consumption of an entrant's product.
We'd be millionaires if we did that for the Nationals :P
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
Quote from: pdb on September 15, 2015, 05:20:32 PM
Hi Thomas, there's some confusion happening on whatsapp on whether stouts are allowed. They are technically ales but... Do you know where they sit on this? Also, do admiral hops *have* to go into the brew or can you use any of the listed hops on from the website, e.g. magnum only.
My understanding when I first read it is that it must contain Admiral and that you can use everything else there after
7. Entrants must register by 2nd October, online at [www.smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie] to receive Admiral hops for use in the brewing process. If entrants wish to use additional hop varieties, they can choose from the following: Magnum; Challenger; UK Goldings; Willamette; Saaz. Admiral hops are strictly subject to availability.
But then reading that condition I'm not sure, IG can you verify?
http://www.britishhops.org.uk/admiral-class-tall/
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 15, 2015, 06:17:34 PM
Post by: Tom on September 15, 2015, 06:17:34 PM
You know they've got the NHC logo on their website?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
and a hyperlink back to us as well! :)
There is a discussion to be had but best in the members area ;)
There is a discussion to be had but best in the members area ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Pheeel on September 15, 2015, 07:33:43 PM
Post by: Pheeel on September 15, 2015, 07:33:43 PM
I'd love to enter but the timelines and the requirement on Admiral are too much of a constraint to get it ready in time
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 08:35:42 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 08:35:42 PM
Ok just to confirm, stouts are actually not ok. I think they want to avoid making something close to Guinness. So when they say "winter ale" I think they actually mean something that's between red and brown coloured. :/
The Admiral hops will be posted out as soon as you've registered so get on it tonight and you should have them for the weekend.
The Admiral hops will be posted out as soon as you've registered so get on it tonight and you should have them for the weekend.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 15, 2015, 08:47:45 PM
Post by: LordEoin on September 15, 2015, 08:47:45 PM
When i think of winter beers or christmas beers I think BIG, strong, heavy and packed with flavor.
But at the same time they're probably looking for something a little less shocking to Joe Public, and with a bit of a profit margin.
Challenge accepted. I'm in :)
But at the same time they're probably looking for something a little less shocking to Joe Public, and with a bit of a profit margin.
Challenge accepted. I'm in :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 15, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
Wheres me orange rind peeler, "chestnuts roasting on an open fire"
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 08:53:39 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 15, 2015, 08:53:39 PM
Probably would need to be something sessionable yeah. I would guess a nice 5% dark red/brown ale would be on the money. Christmas spices can be used as well.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 15, 2015, 09:08:07 PM
Post by: brenmurph on September 15, 2015, 09:08:07 PM
No cinnamon bombs please thet get boring :-) Christmas ale..... im making snow and melting it to use in my beer :) Thats the only part of my recipe im tellin yis about ;D
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 15, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: LordEoin on September 15, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
never use yellow snow
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 15, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
Post by: brenmurph on September 15, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
could be too high in nitrogen if harvested outside a pub in the lane! Actually Itll be fresh snow from Kildare so Ill be working on my other (more secret ingredients) over the next few days!
Wat about a homebrew Smithwicks competition after the smithwicks competition.....as smithwicks arnt even announcing the winners maybe it would be a cool meet up to taste the entries...or maybe that breaches the smithwicks T&C's :)
Wat about a homebrew Smithwicks competition after the smithwicks competition.....as smithwicks arnt even announcing the winners maybe it would be a cool meet up to taste the entries...or maybe that breaches the smithwicks T&C's :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 15, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 15, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
That timeline is pretty short :(
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on September 15, 2015, 10:15:37 PM
Post by: nigel_c on September 15, 2015, 10:15:37 PM
Very. My winter warmers take months to condition and peak.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on September 15, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
Post by: molc on September 15, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
It's not really a winter warmer. I'm more thinking they want santa in a glass for Christmas:)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: delzep on September 15, 2015, 10:30:54 PM
Post by: delzep on September 15, 2015, 10:30:54 PM
Quote from: molc on September 15, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
It's not really a winter warmer. I'm more thinking they want santa in a glass for Christmas:)
Didn't I see a beard ale mentioned here somewhere??
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Drum on September 15, 2015, 10:51:54 PM
Post by: Drum on September 15, 2015, 10:51:54 PM
Trying to register for this just for the hell of it. But im having trouble with the form. I tryed on firefox and internet explorer and i get this on both (see picture). I downloaded the form and opened with adobe but it wont let me save a filled in version either.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: GlasbrewInc on September 15, 2015, 10:56:42 PM
Post by: GlasbrewInc on September 15, 2015, 10:56:42 PM
Yea I couldn't do that earlier myself ended up saving pdf filling in and scanning 
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 15, 2015, 10:59:23 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 15, 2015, 10:59:23 PM
The form is a bit ginky.
Theres an unclickable link in it for the organiser.
You need to save the PDF and email it.
To Save it, scroll down to the bottom and you should see a toolbar pop up.
Jaysus, theres going to be lots of reds at the upcoming meets...
Theres an unclickable link in it for the organiser.
You need to save the PDF and email it.
To Save it, scroll down to the bottom and you should see a toolbar pop up.
Jaysus, theres going to be lots of reds at the upcoming meets...
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Damo on September 15, 2015, 11:00:52 PM
Post by: Damo on September 15, 2015, 11:00:52 PM
Use the disc icon at the bottom of the screen to save it to your pc.
Reopen it and edit it to fill in you rdetails and save, you should be able to attach it and send by normal email
Reopen it and edit it to fill in you rdetails and save, you should be able to attach it and send by normal email
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on September 15, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Post by: nigel_c on September 15, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Took a lot of clicking and even more swearing but I got it.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Drum on September 15, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
Post by: Drum on September 15, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
Quote from: nigel_c on September 15, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Took a lot of clicking and even more swearing but I got it.
I've surpassed my clicking and swearing quotas for this evening thanks to that annoying form.
Looks like diageo wont be getting my secret recipe for Admiral Rudolphs Xmas Special Ale after all
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 16, 2015, 01:27:29 AM
Post by: Leann ull on September 16, 2015, 01:27:29 AM
https://smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie/wp-content/uploads/SmithwicksCompetitionEntryForm.pdf
And for the spices folks from Northern Brewer, remember try and do a spice "tea" and adjust to taste rather than poison someone
And for the spices folks from Northern Brewer, remember try and do a spice "tea" and adjust to taste rather than poison someone
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 16, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 16, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
Has Diageo bought 50% of the NHC or what?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Qs on September 16, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
Post by: Qs on September 16, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
I have a porter that was made with Goldings and Willamette might just enter that. Nothing christmassy about it though. I'd brew one this weekend for it but don't have any of the required hops.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 17, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 17, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
Thank you for entering into the Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge. Your registration number is:
.......
Your entry pack including your Admiral hops are on their way.
Your registration number must be clearly stated on the bottle tags provided before submission of beer. On each bottle tag you must include your registration number. You must also provide a clear ingredients list with your submission.
You must submit four 330ml or three 500ml bottles of Ale by the 27th October
2015 along with the entry form to Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge, Verve,
11-15 Erne Street Upper, Dublin 2 or at the drop-off locations which will be announced via our Facebook page: www.facebook.com/smithwicks Each entrant must agree to the terms and conditions.
If you wish to use additional hop varieties along with the Admiral Hops you may choose from the following:
- Magnum
- Challenger
- UK Goldings
- Wilamette
- Saaz
If you reach the final you will have the opportunity to brew in our pilot brewery in November. Finalists must be available between the 2nd and the 17th of November 2015 and for the final event in December.
If you would like further information about homebrewing and to pick up some tips visit www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie or if you have any questions you can contact us by emailing sarah@smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
Good luck!
.......
Your entry pack including your Admiral hops are on their way.
Your registration number must be clearly stated on the bottle tags provided before submission of beer. On each bottle tag you must include your registration number. You must also provide a clear ingredients list with your submission.
You must submit four 330ml or three 500ml bottles of Ale by the 27th October
2015 along with the entry form to Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge, Verve,
11-15 Erne Street Upper, Dublin 2 or at the drop-off locations which will be announced via our Facebook page: www.facebook.com/smithwicks Each entrant must agree to the terms and conditions.
If you wish to use additional hop varieties along with the Admiral Hops you may choose from the following:
- Magnum
- Challenger
- UK Goldings
- Wilamette
- Saaz
If you reach the final you will have the opportunity to brew in our pilot brewery in November. Finalists must be available between the 2nd and the 17th of November 2015 and for the final event in December.
If you would like further information about homebrewing and to pick up some tips visit www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie or if you have any questions you can contact us by emailing sarah@smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
Good luck!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 17, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 17, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Entry points are likely to be Parcel Motel drop points, afaik.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on September 18, 2015, 10:22:37 AM
Post by: Will_D on September 18, 2015, 10:22:37 AM
I can't get past the age verification stage.
I enter my info and click remember me and then submit and it just comes back insisting I live in Afghanistan!
Maybe I'm too old?
I enter my info and click remember me and then submit and it just comes back insisting I live in Afghanistan!
Maybe I'm too old?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: pob on September 18, 2015, 10:29:45 AM
Post by: pob on September 18, 2015, 10:29:45 AM
@Will: I've emailed you the form
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Pheeel on September 18, 2015, 10:56:37 AM
Post by: Pheeel on September 18, 2015, 10:56:37 AM
Anyone get their hops yet? I was hoping to brew around the rugby tomorrow but if they don't come today then that plan's scuppered...
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Hops were posted out Wednesday and yesterday so they'd hopefully arrive today.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: GlasbrewInc on September 18, 2015, 11:28:30 AM
Post by: GlasbrewInc on September 18, 2015, 11:28:30 AM
Will if your IP address is not an ireland one that happens, I had same issue earlier in week with my work laptop / network
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 12:29:09 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Will_D on September 18, 2015, 10:22:37 AMMaybe I'm too old?
Smithwicks were actually worried the winner would be somebody who looks too young. :P
Apparently the PR department have a rule that they don't use people who look under 25 in their photoshoots etc.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Fatcontro11er on September 18, 2015, 02:22:45 PM
Post by: Fatcontro11er on September 18, 2015, 02:22:45 PM
I cannot access the smithwicks site for the contest entry form??
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Fatcontro11er on September 18, 2015, 02:22:45 PM
I cannot access the smithwicks site for the contest entry form??
Direct link to the form here. https://smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie/wp-content/uploads/SmithwicksCompetitionEntryForm.pdf
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: GlasbrewInc on September 18, 2015, 03:35:12 PM
Post by: GlasbrewInc on September 18, 2015, 03:35:12 PM
Hey tom the under 25 is a legal thing for alcohol advertising
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 03:44:54 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: GlasbrewInc on September 18, 2015, 03:35:12 PM
Hey tom the under 25 is a legal thing for alcohol advertising
Ah I wasn't aware of that.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: PCBrewer on September 18, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Post by: PCBrewer on September 18, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on September 17, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Entry points are likely to be Parcel Motel drop points, afaik.
What about the nordies?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 03:58:21 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 18, 2015, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: PCBrewer on September 18, 2015, 03:51:21 PMQuote from: irish_goat on September 17, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Entry points are likely to be Parcel Motel drop points, afaik.
What about the nordies?
I'll double check. I'm assuming they've something in the pipeine. :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on September 18, 2015, 10:56:15 PM
Post by: Will_D on September 18, 2015, 10:56:15 PM
So I just opened the pdf in a different "pdf browser/looky thingy" and then I could edit it and save it. Then emailed it back to Sarah and got the confirmation that I am in!
SO:?? Whats the low down on Admiral Hops!
SO:?? Whats the low down on Admiral Hops!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 19, 2015, 10:09:18 AM
Post by: LordEoin on September 19, 2015, 10:09:18 AM
they email you once they're sent, then it's up to the postman
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on September 20, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
Post by: Will_D on September 20, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
I meant more like what sort of hop is it as I have never used them.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 20, 2015, 03:57:36 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 20, 2015, 03:57:36 PM
See here Will...
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10653.msg131521.html#msg131521
(Edit; i see you are already on that thread.)
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10653.msg131521.html#msg131521
(Edit; i see you are already on that thread.)
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: pob on September 21, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
Post by: pob on September 21, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
Just received 100g of Admiral hops in the post.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/f15aec9d7f98e321eda323cc2961898d.jpg)
Didn't realise I was supposed to brew the full 1000Litres based on what they sent me
Weren't vacuum packed, well the seal had gone when I received them.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/f15aec9d7f98e321eda323cc2961898d.jpg)
Didn't realise I was supposed to brew the full 1000Litres based on what they sent me
Weren't vacuum packed, well the seal had gone when I received them.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Shanna on September 21, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Post by: Shanna on September 21, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: pob on September 21, 2015, 10:32:44 AMI checked with the lady running the registration and she confirmed mine were sent out on Friday but no sign of them today.
Just received 100g of Admiral hops in the post.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/f15aec9d7f98e321eda323cc2961898d.jpg)
Didn't realise I was supposed to brew the full 1000Litres based on what they sent me
Weren't vacuum packed, well the seal had gone when I received them.
Shanna
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 02:52:28 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 02:52:28 PM
This is gonna be very tight if not impossible if you were going to bottle condition :(
Like Hophouse 13,
Hotpress Homebrew 33
Like Hophouse 13,
Hotpress Homebrew 33
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 21, 2015, 03:04:37 PM
Post by: Tom on September 21, 2015, 03:04:37 PM
Oh I SEE! It's called Hophouse 13 because that was the score it got in the last BJCP cometition. Fair play to them for having the balls to release it commercially.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 03:07:04 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 03:07:04 PM
Ouch! :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on September 21, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
Post by: molc on September 21, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
Haha. Yeah I'm going to force carb mine and try to bottle it somehow with my Jerry rug. Could test for the nationals this year :)
Kinda enjoying the challenge of turning around a competition entry in 4 weeks.
Kinda enjoying the challenge of turning around a competition entry in 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 21, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 21, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 21, 2015, 03:04:37 PM:D >:D >:D
Oh I SEE! It's called Hophouse 13 because that was the score it got in the last BJCP cometition. Fair play to them for having the balls to release it commercially.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: cruiscinlan on September 21, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
Post by: cruiscinlan on September 21, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
Ah flip have I missed this this or can you still join? Site is blocked at work.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Pheeel on September 21, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
Post by: Pheeel on September 21, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: cruiscinlan on September 21, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
Ah flip have I missed this this or can you still join? Site is blocked at work.
You've got until the 2nd...
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 06:10:58 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 06:10:58 PM
Ok so apart from my postman knowing my dirty little secret
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/c76b341ca901ac1d9d272534197f6a55.jpg)
This was after last month spending 30 mins explaining to him that I was doing a research project and hence the subscription to readers wife's
I'm more upset that a national brewery want me to make a quality product with 2 year old hops, come on lads help me out here :(
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/ad9caa5fad5145ad618d3b42f12c2ce6.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/c76b341ca901ac1d9d272534197f6a55.jpg)
This was after last month spending 30 mins explaining to him that I was doing a research project and hence the subscription to readers wife's
I'm more upset that a national brewery want me to make a quality product with 2 year old hops, come on lads help me out here :(
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/ad9caa5fad5145ad618d3b42f12c2ce6.jpg)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on September 21, 2015, 06:15:42 PM
Post by: armedcor on September 21, 2015, 06:15:42 PM
I wonder how the hops have been stored. Will need to do some AA adjustment.
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 06:50:41 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 21, 2015, 06:50:41 PM
They were all floppy and loose certainly not vac packed, I put them straight in the bin as yep I don't know how they were stored either and you could be badly out with your calcs
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: pob on September 21, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
Post by: pob on September 21, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
At least your hops had a sticker, saying what they were, AA%, harvest year, etc
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 21, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 21, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
Still trying to understand the reason why this hop is a requirement but anything else goes. :-\
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on September 22, 2015, 07:54:55 AM
Post by: molc on September 22, 2015, 07:54:55 AM
Here's the bag I got in the post from Smithwicks. Youngs, so at least they are a known brand, but it's a big puffy bag and not vac sealed. 2013 as well, so I wonder how it will be for bittering.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2015, 08:51:57 AM
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2015, 08:51:57 AM
I was chatting to a certain HBS over the weekend, and the competition came up. They said that somebody recently ordered about 100 bags of Admiral, then another 50. Their curiosity piqued, they followed this up, and found out about the competition. They also said that because it was all going to one address they only stuck stickers on some of the bags. Can't say who, obviously, but perhaps the unlabeled hops are 11%aa from 2013. Just perhaps.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on September 22, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
Post by: Will_D on September 22, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
Mine have just arrived, Hard vacuum packed, no label on pack, 4 entry label tags but NO entry number that I can find!!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Dr Horrible on September 22, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
Post by: Dr Horrible on September 22, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on September 21, 2015, 08:20:14 PMIf I was going to bet I'd say they have a shed load of Admiral sitting at the back of their warehouse and were wondering how to get rid of it. So while two year old hops might not give you the best beer it might well be very close to what the final beer will use.
Still trying to understand the reason why this hop is a requirement but anything else goes. :-\
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
its all very strange, they want admiral but dont say they actually want admiral charactor. We can use a list of other hops. If I was making an ale for a comp with a 1000 prize id be using my own target from the hop vine in my garden, not old blown 2013 youngs packaged hops.
Recently I cought from HBS. of 6 pks 3 were blown and one had a hole in it. On complaint they said that all hops are vacpacked but as they age they can ferment slightly with yeast or bacteria and thats how the bag is like a baloon rather than a vac-packed rock
Do I want to use them....I dont think so
Recently I cought from HBS. of 6 pks 3 were blown and one had a hole in it. On complaint they said that all hops are vacpacked but as they age they can ferment slightly with yeast or bacteria and thats how the bag is like a baloon rather than a vac-packed rock
Do I want to use them....I dont think so
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2015, 10:27:39 AM
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2015, 10:27:39 AM
Seems bloody unlikely though. Maybe that HBS bought their vac-packer from Lidl! ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: imark on September 22, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
Post by: imark on September 22, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AMThat's a poor answer from the HBS in question. The hops should be flushed with nitrogen and stored cold so there should be F-all reason for 'fermentation'. Doesn't explain the hoe either :o
Recently I cought from HBS. of 6 pks 3 were blown and one had a hole in it. On complaint they said that all hops are vacpacked but as they age they can ferment slightly with yeast or bacteria and thats how the bag is like a baloon rather than a vac-packed rock
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
So anybody know what causes the blown bags if its not yeast or bacteria as stated by the supplier. they did clearly apologise and state they should not have been sent out...obviously they still are according to the admiral reports >:(
the pics a bit big...scroll to see the bag that went through the wars. i put the good bag in the pic for comparison when i sent it off with my complaint
the pics a bit big...scroll to see the bag that went through the wars. i put the good bag in the pic for comparison when i sent it off with my complaint
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:47:29 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:47:29 AM
Quote from: imark on September 22, 2015, 10:28:22 AMQuote from: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AMThat's a poor answer from the HBS in question. The hops should be flushed with nitrogen and stored cold so there should be F-all reason for 'fermentation'. Doesn't explain the hoe either :o
Recently I cought from HBS. of 6 pks 3 were blown and one had a hole in it. On complaint they said that all hops are vacpacked but as they age they can ferment slightly with yeast or bacteria and thats how the bag is like a baloon rather than a vac-packed rock
Nitrogen flush may be good but there are anaerobic bacteria, cold stored we would be lucky if that were the case :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 22, 2015, 10:51:15 AM
Post by: LordEoin on September 22, 2015, 10:51:15 AM
my guess is that there are pinholes in the bag wall or in the heat seal.
The 'hops fermented in the bag' excuse sounds like bollox and if it's true then you should get a refund/replacement.
If the pack's going in the bin anyway I'd submerge it in water and give it a squeeze to see where the leak is (just for curiosity's sake)
The 'hops fermented in the bag' excuse sounds like bollox and if it's true then you should get a refund/replacement.
If the pack's going in the bin anyway I'd submerge it in water and give it a squeeze to see where the leak is (just for curiosity's sake)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 11:01:01 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 11:01:01 AM
The shop in question refunded without quibble and apologised.
Pinhole in bag would mean it cant hold pressure some bags are pressurised so it has to be some sort of gas building up in them?
Someone explain? and then we get back to why diagio is sending us old blown hops to brew a great beer with ! :) ;)
Pinhole in bag would mean it cant hold pressure some bags are pressurised so it has to be some sort of gas building up in them?
Someone explain? and then we get back to why diagio is sending us old blown hops to brew a great beer with ! :) ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 22, 2015, 01:55:56 PM
Post by: irish_goat on September 22, 2015, 01:55:56 PM
We've got another article up with thejournal.ie. http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
Myself and Rossa did a kit demonstration for some Diageo heads and media folks yesterday. Tip: When showing how to fill the airlock do not recommend using "any cheap spirits you have lying round the house" then proceed to pick up a bottle of Smirnoff. The Diageo ones didn't enjoy that. :P :P
Myself and Rossa did a kit demonstration for some Diageo heads and media folks yesterday. Tip: When showing how to fill the airlock do not recommend using "any cheap spirits you have lying round the house" then proceed to pick up a bottle of Smirnoff. The Diageo ones didn't enjoy that. :P :P
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: rukkus on September 22, 2015, 02:02:49 PM
Post by: rukkus on September 22, 2015, 02:02:49 PM
Waiting on my entry pack at the moment
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: itsclinto on September 22, 2015, 02:08:13 PM
Post by: itsclinto on September 22, 2015, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: Will_D on September 22, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
Mine have just arrived, Hard vacuum packed, no label on pack, 4 entry label tags but NO entry number that I can find!!
Same here. No entry number. I'm guessing that it will be emailed out in due course
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 02:08:56 PM
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 02:08:56 PM
Entry number is in ur confirmation email
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
And you must state this entry number on the tags you put on your bottles
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Pheeel on September 22, 2015, 03:12:39 PM
Post by: Pheeel on September 22, 2015, 03:12:39 PM
Still no hops have arrived for me :(. I sent in the form last Tuesday (and got a mail back on Thursday)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on September 22, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Post by: Will_D on September 22, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Your entry number is your registration number, and it looks like its you initials and DOB!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Shanna on September 22, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
Post by: Shanna on September 22, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
Quote from: Pheeel on September 22, 2015, 03:12:39 PMI registered on Wednesday, received confirmation on Thursday but still no hops. Double checked yesterday & was told registration pack was sent on Friday. Not looking good.
Still no hops have arrived for me :(. I sent in the form last Tuesday (and got a mail back on Thursday)
Shanna
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: CARA on September 22, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
Post by: CARA on September 22, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
Expensive hops are they?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Taf on September 23, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
Post by: Taf on September 23, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: irish_goat on September 22, 2015, 01:55:56 PM
We've got another article up with thejournal.ie. http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
Myself and Rossa did a kit demonstration for some Diageo heads and media folks yesterday. Tip: When showing how to fill the airlock do not recommend using "any cheap spirits you have lying round the house" then proceed to pick up a bottle of Smirnoff. The Diageo ones didn't enjoy that. :P :P
First post on article is someone having a dig at the NHC for being cliquey and ban happy, which is bollix in my opinion, and I said so.
http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 11:54:44 AM
Post by: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 11:54:44 AM
If I remember right there was a guy called Windstonia (or something like that) around a few years back. Disappeared after a couple of rants.
Probably at home making bitter lemon wine now.
Probably at home making bitter lemon wine now.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Dr Jacoby on September 23, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
Post by: Dr Jacoby on September 23, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
A friend of mine who is not a member on the forum heard about the comp and visited the club homepage for info. As far as either of us can see there is nothing up there about the comp. It's not even listed under the competitions section. A little odd no?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 23, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 23, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
True, and I'm sure Irish Goat will comment, but we are not the promoters or getting any funding to promote as its not our gig, best supporting actor non speaking role is how I understand it?
Liffey Valley or Belfast Competition on the other hand.
Liffey Valley or Belfast Competition on the other hand.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Bubbles on September 23, 2015, 12:58:04 PM
Post by: Bubbles on September 23, 2015, 12:58:04 PM
Quote from: Taf on September 23, 2015, 11:16:38 AMQuote from: irish_goat on September 22, 2015, 01:55:56 PM
We've got another article up with thejournal.ie. http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
Myself and Rossa did a kit demonstration for some Diageo heads and media folks yesterday. Tip: When showing how to fill the airlock do not recommend using "any cheap spirits you have lying round the house" then proceed to pick up a bottle of Smirnoff. The Diageo ones didn't enjoy that. :P :P
First post on article is someone having a dig at the NHC for being cliquey and ban happy, which is bollix in my opinion, and I said so.
http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
That's unbelievable! Cliquey? In my view, newcomers to the NHC always get a warm welcome and a line of people ready to answer their questions. Sounds like someone with an axe to grind alright, what a tool.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Garry on September 23, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
Post by: Garry on September 23, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Taf on September 23, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
First post on article is someone having a dig at the NHC for being cliquey and ban happy, which is bollix in my opinion, and I said so.
http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
I've reported the comment. We'll see if anything comes of it.
I suggest the rest of ye in my clique report it too. I'll be banning anyone that doesn't :P
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Dr Jacoby on September 23, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Post by: Dr Jacoby on September 23, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Fair enough, though I think any civilian who reads the spiel on the smithwicks site would naturally assume that the NHC would have some info (and not necessarily for promotional purposes). Not a big deal obviously, just an observation :P
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 23, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 23, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 11:54:44 AM
If I remember right there was a guy called Winstonia (or something like that) around a few years back. Disappeared after a couple of rants.
Probably at home making bitter lemon wine now.
He was the guy that threw the rattle out of the pram when as he refused to join the NHC and was already a member of Beoir, which is his choice, then said he was going to wait to pick up free tickets from Brewcon returns from members that didn't want to go. When I pointed out they were only sold to individuals named on the ticket and returns need to be offered to members first only he got thick, its a frigging tenner ffs, hang around here we will save you hundreds!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 23, 2015, 01:18:27 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 23, 2015, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Dr Jacoby on September 23, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Fair enough, though I think any civilian who reads the spiel on the smithwicks site would naturally assume that the NHC would have some info (and not necessarily for promotional purposes). Not a big deal obviously, just an observation :P
No your right, i think they just say head over to the NHC for tips on brewing etc
You know there is a grand at stake here right :P We're guarded with competition entry recipies never mind where there is money involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3SqxUomwk
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: beerfly on September 23, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
Post by: beerfly on September 23, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
probably would not hurt to have someting on the front page even if it is a few short lines and a link to the comp site
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 23, 2015, 01:38:30 PM
Post by: LordEoin on September 23, 2015, 01:38:30 PM
Yeah, i agree. We'd do it if a micro was holding a similar competition.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Yep, I'm all for that.
I reported yer mans copmment too...
I am an admin on the NHC.
Going by the posted name, This person deleted his own profile as he was looking for member privileges but was not a full(paid) member.
As a collective, the NHC does not get a lot of press.
I think there are sour grapes here and it is an unfair comment.
J*** M**** 08*-80*****
I reported yer mans copmment too...
I am an admin on the NHC.
Going by the posted name, This person deleted his own profile as he was looking for member privileges but was not a full(paid) member.
As a collective, the NHC does not get a lot of press.
I think there are sour grapes here and it is an unfair comment.
J*** M**** 08*-80*****
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
Post by: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
+1
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Qs on September 23, 2015, 04:26:48 PM
Post by: Qs on September 23, 2015, 04:26:48 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on September 23, 2015, 12:58:04 PMQuote from: Taf on September 23, 2015, 11:16:38 AMQuote from: irish_goat on September 22, 2015, 01:55:56 PM
We've got another article up with thejournal.ie. http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
Myself and Rossa did a kit demonstration for some Diageo heads and media folks yesterday. Tip: When showing how to fill the airlock do not recommend using "any cheap spirits you have lying round the house" then proceed to pick up a bottle of Smirnoff. The Diageo ones didn't enjoy that. :P :P
First post on article is someone having a dig at the NHC for being cliquey and ban happy, which is bollix in my opinion, and I said so.
http://www.thejournal.ie/home-brewing-tips-smithwicks-2339821-Sep2015/
That's unbelievable! Cliquey? In my view, newcomers to the NHC always get a warm welcome and a line of people ready to answer their questions. Sounds like someone with an axe to grind alright, what a tool.
Definitely. Even non-members get plenty of help on the forums here.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: rukkus on September 23, 2015, 07:51:51 PM
Post by: rukkus on September 23, 2015, 07:51:51 PM
My entry pack arrived today, hops seem to be sealed well, no AA listed but looking ok so far
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
No sign yet :(
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 23, 2015, 08:02:24 PM
Post by: LordEoin on September 23, 2015, 08:02:24 PM
me neither
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 08:05:19 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 08:05:19 PM
Maybe Cork border control sniffer dogs nabbed it. >:(
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on September 23, 2015, 08:07:33 PM
Post by: armedcor on September 23, 2015, 08:07:33 PM
Still nothing in kerry
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2015, 08:17:13 PM
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2015, 08:17:13 PM
None in Donegal yet either, but then I'm not expecting them til October. Takes time for anything to get past Monaghan.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 23, 2015, 08:26:34 PM
Post by: brenmurph on September 23, 2015, 08:26:34 PM
Came to newbridge today. Still no kildare.... Dey shud b in cork by oct 27th so dont panic :-)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 23, 2015, 08:58:22 PM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 23, 2015, 08:58:22 PM
Still nothing for me. Just aswell I ordered my own admiral last week and brewed last Friday. The clocks ticking ....
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
Post by: johnrm on September 23, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
It's poor form from Diageo,
I'd say they had way more interest than they were expecting and they can't get their hands on the hops.
I'd say they had way more interest than they were expecting and they can't get their hands on the hops.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Post by: nigel_c on September 23, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
At this stage I reckon I'll be a no go for a lot of people. Bad planning from the competition organisers will get a low turn out of beers far from their prime condition.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 23, 2015, 09:44:58 PM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 23, 2015, 09:44:58 PM
Yeah - if they are doing it next year maybe give us all some more notice and I'm sure some cracking beers will be turned out
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on September 24, 2015, 12:01:31 AM
Post by: LordEoin on September 24, 2015, 12:01:31 AM
Some more coverage here: http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/calling-homebrewers-you-take-part-6448091 (http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/food-drink-news/calling-homebrewers-you-take-part-6448091)
and here: https://www.businessworld.ie/news/Smithwick-s-Homebrew-Challenge-launched-560830.html (https://www.businessworld.ie/news/Smithwick-s-Homebrew-Challenge-launched-560830.html)
and here: https://www.businessworld.ie/news/Smithwick-s-Homebrew-Challenge-launched-560830.html (https://www.businessworld.ie/news/Smithwick-s-Homebrew-Challenge-launched-560830.html)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
Post by: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
The deadline is far too tight.
I was reading recently that beer can ferment in a much faster timeframe if fermented under pressure, which the majority of homebrewers wouldn't do. Also the sophisticated temperature control, filtering and force carbonation employed by large breweries probably gives them the expectation that good beer can be produced in a couple of weeks. If I was brewing a big beer for the nationals (certainly a winter warmer), I'd want minimum 10 weeks to get it to where I want it. But ideally:
Grow up yeast: 1 week
Ferment: 3-4 weeks
Carbonate/Bottle condition: 2 weeks
Age: 8-12 weeks
I was reading recently that beer can ferment in a much faster timeframe if fermented under pressure, which the majority of homebrewers wouldn't do. Also the sophisticated temperature control, filtering and force carbonation employed by large breweries probably gives them the expectation that good beer can be produced in a couple of weeks. If I was brewing a big beer for the nationals (certainly a winter warmer), I'd want minimum 10 weeks to get it to where I want it. But ideally:
Grow up yeast: 1 week
Ferment: 3-4 weeks
Carbonate/Bottle condition: 2 weeks
Age: 8-12 weeks
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Hingo on September 24, 2015, 09:35:17 AM
Post by: Hingo on September 24, 2015, 09:35:17 AM
Mine came this morning, vac packed n all, (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/24/36a64d393727bd87467cd85f21469816.jpg)
I did my brew yesterday, got hops of Manu (the gent!) so if anyone needs some to get started I can help in the south/central Dublin area
Regardless of timelines, might be worth giving it a go and get it in young, worst case scenario you have a batch of beer to drink in November/December.
I did my brew yesterday, got hops of Manu (the gent!) so if anyone needs some to get started I can help in the south/central Dublin area
Regardless of timelines, might be worth giving it a go and get it in young, worst case scenario you have a batch of beer to drink in November/December.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:01:13 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
The deadline is far too tight.
I was reading recently that beer can ferment in a much faster timeframe if fermented under pressure, which the majority of homebrewers wouldn't do. Also the sophisticated temperature control, filtering and force carbonation employed by large breweries probably gives them the expectation that good beer can be produced in a couple of weeks. If I was brewing a big beer for the nationals (certainly a winter warmer), I'd want minimum 10 weeks to get it to where I want it. But ideally:
Grow up yeast: 1 week
Ferment: 3-4 weeks
Carbonate/Bottle condition: 2 weeks
Age: 8-12 weeks
Thats extreme to us!
Take 12g notty dry yeast from fridge 10 seconds
rehydrate as per instructions 15 minutes
ferment a 1.045 beer (4%ish) in 5 days
condition phases 1 week for ale
transfer and force carb 1 hour
if bottling, bottle condition 3-days to 1 week
age??...whats that....drink while fresh and tasty after it has been conditioned in line with good brewing processes :)
Thats about 3 weeks. Stronger ales 5-6% maybe an extra week
I think Diagio are generous with the timeline
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 24, 2015, 10:21:03 AM
Post by: johnrm on September 24, 2015, 10:21:03 AM
Bren, you're a man with a plan!
Phone call from SWMBO - Hops just arrived at home.
Phone call from SWMBO - Hops just arrived at home.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
Not like you to play Devil's Advocate, Bren?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Jonnycheech on September 24, 2015, 10:41:12 AM
Post by: Jonnycheech on September 24, 2015, 10:41:12 AM
I brewed a red ale two weeks ago, nothing to do with aforementioned competition. Considering Admiral hops are required, what are peoples thoughts on dry-hopping with the Admiral? Obviously I wouldn't go crazy with the dry-hopping, just enough to impart some Admiral aroma.
I know it's not really to style but it gets around the requirements. Would fellow NHC members consider this cheating? :-\
I know it's not really to style but it gets around the requirements. Would fellow NHC members consider this cheating? :-\
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
well tom. ive seen at least a dozen posts referring to not enough time to brew.
the facts are as I stated. beer does not take 3 months to brew 3 weeks is more realistic and while Im well familiar with homebrewers leaving their beer to age / mature but often its not scientifically based. Good lagers can be made in 4 weeks easily. im confident commercials are going a lot quicker and craft brewers generally trying and failing at genuine crisp clean clear lagers.
Ales by their nature are arguably local everyday real ales and not meant to be aged. English bitter 10 days to 3 weeks tops lager 3 to 6 weeks...may get better with time...or may not
kellie is brewing her favorite beer tomorrow and has prepped her recipe over the last couple days. it will take 3 weeks and then we will keep it at 2c in our home made walk-in chiller ( cost 100 euros total)
So devils advocate I agree with you calling me that ;) :) but remember we are a brew club lets get positive and relaistic about timelines and theres plenty time for anyone to get an entry in on schedule.
I think this comp is great if we leave opinions aside about craft or commercial. I am not aligned to either...I am a homebrewer who shares our passion for real food real beer and social engagement...let the comp begin...plenty time :) ;)
the facts are as I stated. beer does not take 3 months to brew 3 weeks is more realistic and while Im well familiar with homebrewers leaving their beer to age / mature but often its not scientifically based. Good lagers can be made in 4 weeks easily. im confident commercials are going a lot quicker and craft brewers generally trying and failing at genuine crisp clean clear lagers.
Ales by their nature are arguably local everyday real ales and not meant to be aged. English bitter 10 days to 3 weeks tops lager 3 to 6 weeks...may get better with time...or may not
kellie is brewing her favorite beer tomorrow and has prepped her recipe over the last couple days. it will take 3 weeks and then we will keep it at 2c in our home made walk-in chiller ( cost 100 euros total)
So devils advocate I agree with you calling me that ;) :) but remember we are a brew club lets get positive and relaistic about timelines and theres plenty time for anyone to get an entry in on schedule.
I think this comp is great if we leave opinions aside about craft or commercial. I am not aligned to either...I am a homebrewer who shares our passion for real food real beer and social engagement...let the comp begin...plenty time :) ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 24, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 24, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
If you didn't use the hops that were originally outlined I'd call that cheating.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: Johnnycheech on September 24, 2015, 10:41:12 AMThere is no rule on how much admiral or when u add it!
I brewed a red ale two weeks ago, nothing to do with aforementioned competition. Considering Admiral hops are required, what are peoples thoughts on dry-hopping with the Admiral? Obviously I wouldn't go crazy with the dry-hopping, just enough to impart some Admiral aroma.
I know it's not really to style but it gets around the requirements. Would fellow NHC members consider this cheating? :-\
u can add admiral, onions, cinnamon, treacle, beetroot, parsley, corn or apples in your beer...none of anyones business...no rheinheitsgebot in Ireland...go for it and enter...its free and u get a few hops.... nothing to lose
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on September 24, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
Post by: irish_goat on September 24, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
Fire the admiral in as a small dryhop. As long as there's some in the beer you're fulfilling the requirements.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 10:55:12 AM
Post by: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 10:55:12 AM
Got my hops as well today. Seem in much better condition than some of the early send outs. I just wish I knew the AA%
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on September 24, 2015, 10:59:39 AM
Post by: molc on September 24, 2015, 10:59:39 AM
Always time to make competition beer :) making a base nut Brown ale with the admiral with ekg for bittering and will make a spice tea in 2 weeks to add to the bottles.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Jonnycheech on September 24, 2015, 11:00:45 AM
Post by: Jonnycheech on September 24, 2015, 11:00:45 AM
Quote from: fishjam45 on September 24, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
If you didn't use the hops that were originally outlined I'd call that cheating.
The only hop I've added so far is EKG, which is allowed according to their requirements, so I am technically still brewing to the rules if I dry-hop with Admiral.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 24, 2015, 11:05:05 AM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on September 24, 2015, 11:05:05 AM
Well then that ain't cheating ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 24, 2015, 11:13:10 AM
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 24, 2015, 11:13:10 AM
If used for bittering then who's to know you used admiral and not some other hop. Stands to reason that they want some late hopping for this beer to show up in the final beer. ???
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Pheeel on September 24, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
Post by: Pheeel on September 24, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
My hops finally turned up this morning. However I'm under the weather and likely won't be in a position to brew until Saturday :'(
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Shanna on September 24, 2015, 02:26:02 PM
Post by: Shanna on September 24, 2015, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 10:55:12 AMYes me too, unfortunately it was a day too late cause I got sick of waiting for them to be arrived and did a mercy dash to the Homebrew company in Mount Mellick yesterday on my way back from "de ploughin" :)
Got my hops as well today. Seem in much better condition than some of the early send outs. I just wish I knew the AA%
Have not seen them yet as I got them delivered to home, will be interested to see if they are in one piece.
Shanna
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 02:29:08 PM
Post by: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: Shanna on September 24, 2015, 02:26:02 PMWhat AA were the hops you bought yesterday? I'd imagine they would be around the same.Quote from: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 10:55:12 AMYes me too, unfortunately it was a day too late cause I got sick of waiting for them to be arrived and did a mercy dash to the Homebrew company in Mount Mellick yesterday on my way back from "de ploughin" :)
Got my hops as well today. Seem in much better condition than some of the early send outs. I just wish I knew the AA%
Have not seen them yet as I got them delivered to home, will be interested to see if they are in one piece.
Shanna
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
Post by: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:01:13 AMQuote from: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
The deadline is far too tight.
I was reading recently that beer can ferment in a much faster timeframe if fermented under pressure, which the majority of homebrewers wouldn't do. Also the sophisticated temperature control, filtering and force carbonation employed by large breweries probably gives them the expectation that good beer can be produced in a couple of weeks. If I was brewing a big beer for the nationals (certainly a winter warmer), I'd want minimum 10 weeks to get it to where I want it. But ideally:
Grow up yeast: 1 week
Ferment: 3-4 weeks
Carbonate/Bottle condition: 2 weeks
Age: 8-12 weeks
Thats extreme to us!
Take 12g notty dry yeast from fridge 10 seconds
rehydrate as per instructions 15 minutes
ferment a 1.045 beer (4%ish) in 5 days
condition phases 1 week for ale
transfer and force carb 1 hour
if bottling, bottle condition 3-days to 1 week
age??...whats that....drink while fresh and tasty after it has been conditioned in line with good brewing processes :)
Thats about 3 weeks. Stronger ales 5-6% maybe an extra week
I think Diagio are generous with the timeline
:)
Fair enough, bren. But I'm from the zen school of homebrewing. Slowly, slowly.. 8)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 24, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 24, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
@Armedcor is your hops 2013 then the AA is 14.3. You then need to put that into beersmith and it will adjust them.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Post by: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Grand! Thanks Dempsey
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: imark on September 24, 2015, 04:05:08 PM
Post by: imark on September 24, 2015, 04:05:08 PM
I'd dry hop with Admiral and call it admiralo. Guaranteed success! 
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 24, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
Post by: Leann ull on September 24, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
There is no rule on how much admiral or when u add it!
u can add admiral, onions, cinnamon, treacle, beetroot, parsley, corn or apples in your beer...none of anyones business...no rheinheitsgebot in Ireland...go for it and enter...its free and u get a few hops.... nothing to lose
Ok who squealed and gave BM my recipe ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
Uh... pellets? ??? First time for everything, I suppose, including clogged filters.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
Post by: brenmurph on September 24, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
@ch. Did u use aldi beetroot of fresh from de garden like me :-)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 04:35:19 PM
Post by: Bubbles on September 24, 2015, 04:35:19 PM
Put 'em away there, CH...
I know we all need to take the stigma out of being "gender fluid", but there's no need to start parading your gonads on a homebrew forum.. Tch!
8)
I know we all need to take the stigma out of being "gender fluid", but there's no need to start parading your gonads on a homebrew forum.. Tch!
8)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Dodge on September 25, 2015, 02:56:47 AM
Post by: Dodge on September 25, 2015, 02:56:47 AM
Quote from: Will_D on September 22, 2015, 09:54:18 AMJust received mine today but only got bag of hops. Are the entry tags important or will a label with required info do?
Mine have just arrived, Hard vacuum packed, no label on pack, 4 entry label tags but NO entry number that I can find!!
By the way what's on the entry tags?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on September 25, 2015, 04:00:03 AM
Post by: Leann ull on September 25, 2015, 04:00:03 AM
Entry is not Valid unless you have the tags :(
Its just your initials and date of birth, ping Sarah off an email just to be sure; sarah@smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
Its just your initials and date of birth, ping Sarah off an email just to be sure; sarah@smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Shanna on September 25, 2015, 08:05:31 AM
Post by: Shanna on September 25, 2015, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 02:29:08 PM14.2% pellets from 2014Quote from: Shanna on September 24, 2015, 02:26:02 PMWhat AA were the hops you bought yesterday? I'd imagine they would be around the same.Quote from: armedcor on September 24, 2015, 10:55:12 AMYes me too, unfortunately it was a day too late cause I got sick of waiting for them to be arrived and did a mercy dash to the Homebrew company in Mount Mellick yesterday on my way back from "de ploughin" :)
Got my hops as well today. Seem in much better condition than some of the early send outs. I just wish I knew the AA%
Have not seen them yet as I got them delivered to home, will be interested to see if they are in one piece.
Shanna
Shanna
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on September 25, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
Post by: johnrm on September 25, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
Scan of Tags attached, Front and back.
Print side by side and fold over.
I imagine the Registration number is more important than the tags.
Print side by side and fold over.
I imagine the Registration number is more important than the tags.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 13, 2015, 03:18:39 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 13, 2015, 03:18:39 PM
Just got this along with attached entry form
Hope your brew is coming along well and you are keeping up to date with everything on thejournal.ie.!!
It is getting close to the time where you need to post your brew to:
Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge,
Verve 11-15 Erne Street upper,
Dublin 2
Don't forget it is due the 27th of October. To go along with your submission I need you to print out the attachment and fill it in and send with your ale.
Hope your brew is coming along well and you are keeping up to date with everything on thejournal.ie.!!
It is getting close to the time where you need to post your brew to:
Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge,
Verve 11-15 Erne Street upper,
Dublin 2
Don't forget it is due the 27th of October. To go along with your submission I need you to print out the attachment and fill it in and send with your ale.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on October 13, 2015, 03:34:05 PM
Post by: nigel_c on October 13, 2015, 03:34:05 PM
I just think its very strange that they direct you to homebrew.ie . Possibly the least stocked supplier I have come across.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 13, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Post by: molc on October 13, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Yeah want them to announce the drop locations so I can just give it in. I only trust CH to courier my beer these days >:)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 13, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 13, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
From their Facebook page earlier
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on October 13, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
Post by: LordEoin on October 13, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
That's great. I've lost all faith in parcel motel.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on October 13, 2015, 09:37:44 PM
Post by: auralabuse on October 13, 2015, 09:37:44 PM
I will be doing a drop off from Meath to erne street directly if anyone is stuck
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on October 13, 2015, 10:28:44 PM
Post by: Will_D on October 13, 2015, 10:28:44 PM
Ok, Who is going to post beers to them?
They initially mentioned drop off points so where are they?
Who in the NHC was involved with Diageo over this JOINT comp?
Can they please contact Sarah and discuss the above points else they will not get many entries!
I am happy to collect the North County Area beers and deliver them to a drop point.
Posting - No Way!
They initially mentioned drop off points so where are they?
Who in the NHC was involved with Diageo over this JOINT comp?
Can they please contact Sarah and discuss the above points else they will not get many entries!
I am happy to collect the North County Area beers and deliver them to a drop point.
Posting - No Way!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 13, 2015, 10:39:58 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 13, 2015, 10:39:58 PM
Will its not our gig we are "best supporting actor non speaking role", you are right though its a little wishy washy and I'm sure will be made clearer in the coming 2 weeks ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brenmurph on October 13, 2015, 10:42:16 PM
Post by: brenmurph on October 13, 2015, 10:42:16 PM
Snap parcel (gls) 6.90 euros for a 10kg parcel collected at ur door delivered to their door signed for.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Hingo on October 14, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Post by: Hingo on October 14, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/14/90762b18fbda222c26af479ae35ea304.jpg)
Let the prayers begin.
Let the prayers begin.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 14, 2015, 01:21:38 PM
Post by: molc on October 14, 2015, 01:21:38 PM
Mine aren't even spiced yet. Just force carbing in the keg and pushing onto a spice tea in the bottles.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: itsclinto on October 14, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Post by: itsclinto on October 14, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Lads I asked Sarah if the drop off point will be open over the weekend and its not. The opening hours for the Thursday and Friday are 9 am to 6 pm.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 14, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 14, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: molc on October 14, 2015, 01:21:38 PM
Mine aren't even spiced yet. Just force carbing in the keg and pushing onto a spice tea in the bottles.
I have a mental image of you filling 2 million bottles with a syringe :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 15, 2015, 08:00:26 AM
Post by: molc on October 15, 2015, 08:00:26 AM
Hehehe. Well I do have the little pipettes now, not to mention a new collection of erlenmeyer flasks... Place is starting to look like a lab! :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: robotmonkey on October 15, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Post by: robotmonkey on October 15, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Bottling mine tonight, just have to get the almond spice tincture in the centrifuge to spin out the oils.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 15, 2015, 10:12:52 AM
Post by: molc on October 15, 2015, 10:12:52 AM
Tincture. Centrifuge! I need more toys :(
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Joe Cal on October 17, 2015, 10:13:43 AM
Post by: Joe Cal on October 17, 2015, 10:13:43 AM
Bottling today, started a bit late, its gonna be tight but if it gets 2 weeks in the bottle I'd be fairly happy. Og 1.066 so probably a bit strong. Hoping there's gonna be collection points announced, dont like the idea of posting
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Boycott on October 17, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
Post by: Boycott on October 17, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: itsclinto on October 14, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Lads I asked Sarah if the drop off point will be open over the weekend and its not. The opening hours for the Thursday and Friday are 9 am to 6 pm.
Is it not open for drop off on the 27th too?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on October 17, 2015, 11:22:01 AM
Post by: LordEoin on October 17, 2015, 11:22:01 AM
Have drop-off locations been announced anywhere yet? I cant see find them.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 17, 2015, 11:28:26 AM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 17, 2015, 11:28:26 AM
Sarah emailed me back about drop offs. Nothing on their Facebook page yet though.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 17, 2015, 11:35:36 AM
Post by: molc on October 17, 2015, 11:35:36 AM
Everything is just very last minute with all of this. Betting a lot of entries won't even be submitted as a result
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Partridge9 on October 18, 2015, 07:02:26 PM
Post by: Partridge9 on October 18, 2015, 07:02:26 PM
Anyone submitting entries this week ?
I have mine conditioning, ready Wednesday.
When is the closing date again ?
I have mine conditioning, ready Wednesday.
When is the closing date again ?
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 18, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 18, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
Did you not get the email with entry info?
Your registration number must be clearly stated on the bottle tags provided
before submission of beer. On each bottle tag you must include your
registration number. You must also provide a clear ingredients list with
your submission.
You must submit four 330ml or three 500ml bottles of Ale by the 27th October
2015 along with the entry form to Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge, Verve,
11-15 Erne Street Upper, Dublin 2 or at the drop-off locations which will
be announced via our Facebook page: www.facebook.com/smithwicks
Each entrant must agree to the terms and conditions.
If you wish to use additional hop varieties along with the Admiral Hops you
may choose from the following:
- Magnum
- Challenger
- UK Goldings
- Wilamette
- Saaz
If you reach the final you will have the opportunity to brew in our pilot
brewery in November. Finalists must be available between the 2nd and the
17th of November 2015 and for the final event in December.
Your registration number must be clearly stated on the bottle tags provided
before submission of beer. On each bottle tag you must include your
registration number. You must also provide a clear ingredients list with
your submission.
You must submit four 330ml or three 500ml bottles of Ale by the 27th October
2015 along with the entry form to Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge, Verve,
11-15 Erne Street Upper, Dublin 2 or at the drop-off locations which will
be announced via our Facebook page: www.facebook.com/smithwicks
Each entrant must agree to the terms and conditions.
If you wish to use additional hop varieties along with the Admiral Hops you
may choose from the following:
- Magnum
- Challenger
- UK Goldings
- Wilamette
- Saaz
If you reach the final you will have the opportunity to brew in our pilot
brewery in November. Finalists must be available between the 2nd and the
17th of November 2015 and for the final event in December.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: rukkus on October 18, 2015, 08:24:31 PM
Post by: rukkus on October 18, 2015, 08:24:31 PM
Didnt manage to get a brew on in time so I'm out :/
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 18, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 18, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Well just tasted mine before dry hopping and am singularly unimpressed so it will probably win ;)
Just dry hopped the shit out of it to allow me to give to pals at Christmas and not chuck.
Edit oops delayed cinnamon burps, pity the judges, it will be like eating what they sell for soap in blush
Just dry hopped the shit out of it to allow me to give to pals at Christmas and not chuck.
Edit oops delayed cinnamon burps, pity the judges, it will be like eating what they sell for soap in blush
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: robotmonkey on October 19, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
Post by: robotmonkey on October 19, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
Well my plastic test bottle has gone solid so at least I know it's carbing ok. Probably going to grab the bus down to Dublin on Friday for the day and drop the bottles in, in person.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Hingo on October 19, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
Post by: Hingo on October 19, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: johnrm on September 25, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
Scan of Tags attached, Front and back.
Print side by side and fold over.
I imagine the Registration number is more important than the tags.
Legend!! I had lost these.. This came in to save the day
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PM
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PM
Info Re: Drop offs
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Boycott on October 19, 2015, 08:38:30 PM
Post by: Boycott on October 19, 2015, 08:38:30 PM
How exactly do we give the recipe? Ao we put on tags that can easily fall off and wrap a sheet of papaer around both of them or something. I cant find a link to this ingredients label we have to print?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 19, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 19, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
it came in an email from them last week
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 19, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 19, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: fishjam45 on October 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PM
Info Re: Drop offs
Amateurs :P
Methinks "30C" is gonna be swamped in this years nationals
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: nigel_c on October 19, 2015, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: nigel_c on October 19, 2015, 10:55:53 PM
Got this email earlier.
Hi,
Just a reminder.. Only a week to go until the submission date Tuesday
27th of Oct. We hope your brews are coming along nicely. Don't forget
the postal address is:
Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge,
Verve 11-15 Erne Street Upper,
Dublin 2
Also feel free to drop us your brews in personally if you would like
to say Hi.!!!!
We are really excited about receiving your brews and starting the
judging.
Happy bottling.
Sarah
Hi,
Just a reminder.. Only a week to go until the submission date Tuesday
27th of Oct. We hope your brews are coming along nicely. Don't forget
the postal address is:
Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge,
Verve 11-15 Erne Street Upper,
Dublin 2
Also feel free to drop us your brews in personally if you would like
to say Hi.!!!!
We are really excited about receiving your brews and starting the
judging.
Happy bottling.
Sarah
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Donny on October 19, 2015, 11:14:11 PM
Post by: Donny on October 19, 2015, 11:14:11 PM
This will be my competition entry :-X
How should I package it to post?
How should I package it to post?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 19, 2015, 11:31:30 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 19, 2015, 11:31:30 PM
Oops forgot Monday next was a bank holiday :o
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on October 20, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
Post by: irish_goat on October 20, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
TheJournal.ie, The42.ie and DailyEdge.ie have a write up done for their entries. http://www.thejournal.ie/we-let-our-journalists-brew-beer-in-the-office-kitchen-heres-how-they-got-on-2374877-Oct2015/
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 20, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 20, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
I've lost the will to live looking at that :(
Forgive them Beer Lord they know not what they are doing like using hot water from the tap.
Thats not homebrewing and breaks some of the most basic rules like sanitation, for posting that I should make you drink it, it'll probably do well ;)
Forgive them Beer Lord they know not what they are doing like using hot water from the tap.
Thats not homebrewing and breaks some of the most basic rules like sanitation, for posting that I should make you drink it, it'll probably do well ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on October 20, 2015, 03:54:21 PM
Post by: auralabuse on October 20, 2015, 03:54:21 PM
That beer will make a great laxative
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: pob on October 20, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Post by: pob on October 20, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
All it's missing is; 'one of the teams decided to brew it in the sink'!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: AJ_Rowley on October 20, 2015, 04:21:15 PM
Post by: AJ_Rowley on October 20, 2015, 04:21:15 PM
The team who added chocolate, looks like some got a dairy milk out of the vending machine, bunged it in the (more than likely filthy) microwave uncovered. Eugh!!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 20, 2015, 05:47:37 PM
Post by: molc on October 20, 2015, 05:47:37 PM
Oh remember back to your first kit brew. Kettle of water and top up with 18 litres. Those were the days...
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 20, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 20, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
18L you abv savage!
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(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/valentine/guitar-play.gif) "Oh Sweet Memories of Life"
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: mcooney on October 21, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
Post by: mcooney on October 21, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
So is the only drop off point the Verve agency in Dublin meaning you have to post from anywhere else in the country?
I sent a mail per the Facebook post but didn't get a response.
I guess I'll courier my entry Friday if I hear nothing before then.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 21, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 21, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: mcooney on October 21, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
I guess I'll courier my entry
Now there's confidence for ya and what we like to see, mines going in on a donkey :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: delzep on October 21, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
Post by: delzep on October 21, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: CH on October 21, 2015, 01:41:56 PMQuote from: mcooney on October 21, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
I guess I'll courier my entry
Now there's confidence for ya and what we like to see, mines going in on a donkey :)
Going for aroma of horseblanket?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 21, 2015, 02:42:37 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 21, 2015, 02:42:37 PM
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Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: mcooney on October 21, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
Post by: mcooney on October 21, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
:) I can imagine beer ending up being nice and cloudy being bottled conditioned.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on October 21, 2015, 06:13:07 PM
Post by: johnrm on October 21, 2015, 06:13:07 PM
Did they announce drop-off locations?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Partridge9 on October 21, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Post by: Partridge9 on October 21, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Im going to drop min around by hand tomorrow, or should I say , via Dublin Bikes !
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 22, 2015, 11:11:29 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 22, 2015, 11:11:29 PM
I knew Saruman had one of these in his shed for a reason
https://vimeo.com/143316929 (https://vimeo.com/143316929)
https://vimeo.com/143316929 (https://vimeo.com/143316929)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 22, 2015, 11:21:38 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 22, 2015, 11:21:38 PM
Who said faster!
"Captain she Kanny take any more"
https://vimeo.com/143317742 (https://vimeo.com/143317742)
"Captain she Kanny take any more"
https://vimeo.com/143317742 (https://vimeo.com/143317742)
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 22, 2015, 11:46:32 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 22, 2015, 11:46:32 PM
I slowed it right back down again and she was done in 30 mins
Cinderella can go to the ball :)
Cinderella can go to the ball :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Bubbles on October 23, 2015, 07:26:36 AM
Post by: Bubbles on October 23, 2015, 07:26:36 AM
Classic post there CH! 
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 23, 2015, 09:52:24 AM
Post by: molc on October 23, 2015, 09:52:24 AM
Hahahahaha. I love it!
Think mine has finished carbing after about 2 weeks on the co2. Need to get out the vodka and spices tonight and start making a concoction to dose them with now >:)
Think mine has finished carbing after about 2 weeks on the co2. Need to get out the vodka and spices tonight and start making a concoction to dose them with now >:)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: robotmonkey on October 23, 2015, 11:00:48 AM
Post by: robotmonkey on October 23, 2015, 11:00:48 AM
Just on the bus in to Dublin to drop my entry in, hopefully it survives the trip!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fungalboy on October 23, 2015, 11:31:39 AM
Post by: fungalboy on October 23, 2015, 11:31:39 AM
Guys, I've been trying to keep my nose out of this thread but I know there have been some questions on drop off/ collection points.
What I know is;
All submissions must be received by October 27th at Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge, Verve, 11-15 Erne Street Upper, Dublin 2.
If you are not able to send us in your entries and need to organise a collection point, please get in touch with Sarah by Friday the 23rd of October via email at sarah@smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
If you are not in Dublin and the NCH Express fails you, drop Sarah a line TODAY.
Remember it is the first time Smithwicks have run an external brewing competition so there will always be issues but I'm sure they will get sorted eventually.
Best of luck.
Will
What I know is;
All submissions must be received by October 27th at Smithwick's Homebrew Challenge, Verve, 11-15 Erne Street Upper, Dublin 2.
If you are not able to send us in your entries and need to organise a collection point, please get in touch with Sarah by Friday the 23rd of October via email at sarah@smithwickshomebrewchallenge.ie
If you are not in Dublin and the NCH Express fails you, drop Sarah a line TODAY.
Remember it is the first time Smithwicks have run an external brewing competition so there will always be issues but I'm sure they will get sorted eventually.
Best of luck.
Will
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 23, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 23, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
Will we are not involved in the collection of bottles or is the forum the medium for communicating how things are being organised for this event and so this is not Club or NHC express responsibility, that is all being done by a marketing company on behalf of Smithwicks.
What you are reading is frustration from our members where there has been significant breakdown in communication over lots of aspects as to how the competition is being organised most recently no input about regional drop off points.
This is probably a result of the high standards we set in running our own local and national competitions and expectations of our members.
What you are reading is frustration from our members where there has been significant breakdown in communication over lots of aspects as to how the competition is being organised most recently no input about regional drop off points.
This is probably a result of the high standards we set in running our own local and national competitions and expectations of our members.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on October 23, 2015, 12:52:34 PM
Post by: johnrm on October 23, 2015, 12:52:34 PM
Did they register for BJCP? ??? >:D
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 23, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 23, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
Cheeky ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Joe Cal on October 23, 2015, 01:30:55 PM
Post by: Joe Cal on October 23, 2015, 01:30:55 PM
i sent sarah a mail about drop off points October 19th and 21st. Nothing back. So my plan is to leave the bottles a few weeks and then drink them
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 23, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 23, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
Sorry about that, the address in Erne Street received about 10 entries this morning by 11.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on October 23, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
Post by: johnrm on October 23, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
I shipped mine with snap parcel - Less than EUR10, but I'd rather put that into CH beer kitty
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: fungalboy on October 23, 2015, 02:34:01 PM
Post by: fungalboy on October 23, 2015, 02:34:01 PM
Quote from: CH on October 23, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
Will we are not involved in the collection of bottles or is the forum the medium for communicating how things are being organised for this event and so this is not Club or NHC express responsibility, that is all being done by a marketing company on behalf of Smithwicks.
What you are reading is frustration from our members where there has been significant breakdown in communication over lots of aspects as to how the competition is being organised most recently no input about regional drop off points.
This is probably a result of the high standards we set in running our own local and national competitions and expectations of our members.
Sharing the info I did is an attempt to help improve communications.
Nobody has suggested that it was the responsibility of the NHC to organise collections. I know that for national, regional and even other brewery led competitions that members have helped each other out with delivery of entries. I'm sure it has happened in this case as well. Dropping off in person or mailing a request for a local drop off are still possible.
Of course there are high expectations from members but as I said this is the first time that Smithwicks have done this and I'm sure that mistakes will be made and lessons learned.
PS I know from personal experience that things can go wrong with competion entry drop offs (Nationals this year for me) so even the best laid plans can go wrong but we will get there.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Joe Cal on October 23, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
Post by: Joe Cal on October 23, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
i wasn't too pushed. I started it late and i'm not sure it's turned out as i planned anyway. the mere fact of the competition prompted me to try something different so that's always good
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on October 23, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
Post by: irish_goat on October 23, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
It's new territory for Smithwick's so they are learning but overall I think we'll look back and see the competition as a success and hopefully they'll carry on with more homebrew comps in the future.
On another note, there is room for a few judges if anyone is interested? You can't have an entry in and it won't be done to BJCP guidelines or anything but it should be a bit of craic. Drop me a PM if you fancy it. :)
On another note, there is room for a few judges if anyone is interested? You can't have an entry in and it won't be done to BJCP guidelines or anything but it should be a bit of craic. Drop me a PM if you fancy it. :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on October 23, 2015, 05:03:15 PM
Post by: molc on October 23, 2015, 05:03:15 PM
Bugger, not being able to enter and judge is a pain, but I totally understand where they're coming from. Would have been a fun one to judge :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on October 23, 2015, 10:01:49 PM
Post by: Will_D on October 23, 2015, 10:01:49 PM
Will there be any feedback ;)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on October 24, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
Post by: auralabuse on October 24, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
I think I read somewhere there will be feedback. Hope so anyway, it would be invaluable coming from proper brewers rather than us homebrew piss heads. Joke...joke....put down the weapons
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on October 24, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Post by: Will_D on October 24, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
I would love to read the feed back from the commercial brewers but even better would be from the bean counters:
"OMG Justin look at this recipe!: Fresh oranges and 3 year old matured Car Red Malt[what's that?]?
HTF can we afford these!"
Justin: "We don't!"
Bolox! There goes my secret ingredients!
"OMG Justin look at this recipe!: Fresh oranges and 3 year old matured Car Red Malt[what's that?]?
HTF can we afford these!"
Justin: "We don't!"
Bolox! There goes my secret ingredients!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on October 25, 2015, 07:46:11 AM
Post by: auralabuse on October 25, 2015, 07:46:11 AM
****runs to shed and adds secret ingredients to competition brew
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: itsclinto on October 27, 2015, 03:11:13 PM
Post by: itsclinto on October 27, 2015, 03:11:13 PM
Lads just to let you know that Sarah has a driver going around the country today and tomorrow collecting the entries. She only got back to me today but i'm sure if you send her a quick email with your phone number, you could maybe sort something out. The driver is heading south today and mine will be collected tomorrow in Drogheda.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on October 27, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Post by: johnrm on October 27, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Fair enough but the communication is poor and the timing ridiculous.
Sarah mentioned something on the 22nd by email about collection but there was Zero specifics.
I gave up and got a courier - it arrived today.
Sarah mentioned something on the 22nd by email about collection but there was Zero specifics.
I gave up and got a courier - it arrived today.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Jonnycheech on October 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PM
Post by: Jonnycheech on October 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PM
Very poor communication alright...and from a PR company too!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Joe Cal on October 29, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
Post by: Joe Cal on October 29, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
Sarah got back to me Tuesday with a drop off, passed it in yesterday so should be in. Last minute but better late than never
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on October 29, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
Post by: johnrm on October 29, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
Where were the drop off points?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: LordEoin on October 29, 2015, 04:42:21 PM
Post by: LordEoin on October 29, 2015, 04:42:21 PM
my drop-off point was the local post office
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on October 29, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
Post by: auralabuse on October 29, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
I work 5 mins around the corner from them so was a handy one for me
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: itsclinto on October 29, 2015, 07:29:40 PM
Post by: itsclinto on October 29, 2015, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: johnrm on October 29, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
Where were the drop off points?
I think they just had a collection van for tuesday but yesterday mine was collected by nightline. If you email sarah in smithwicks she'll get back to you regarding organising collection
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on October 29, 2015, 10:16:12 PM
Post by: irish_goat on October 29, 2015, 10:16:12 PM
Room for one more judge this Tuesday at 6pm if anyone is interested?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Joe Cal on October 31, 2015, 01:51:34 AM
Post by: Joe Cal on October 31, 2015, 01:51:34 AM
My drop off was the ovens bar, Oliver plunkett street. Handy enough in the end, the bar manager was expecting me
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on October 31, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
Post by: irish_goat on October 31, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
Another wee write up. :)
http://www.thejournal.ie/brewers-interview-smithwicks-2411111-Oct2015/
http://www.thejournal.ie/brewers-interview-smithwicks-2411111-Oct2015/
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 31, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 31, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
Very good exposure, nice Jazz Hands
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on October 31, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
Post by: Will_D on October 31, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
+1
Well done guys
We are getting more exposure than an overly well exposed exposer thing!
Well done guys
We are getting more exposure than an overly well exposed exposer thing!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 01, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 01, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on October 31, 2015, 03:02:02 PMLooking at the first picture on the journal story I got the impression that the Smithwick's brewer was admiring Rossa's cool glasses as they were just like hers :P. So how did the conversation follow :D
Another wee write up. :)
http://www.thejournal.ie/brewers-interview-smithwicks-2411111-Oct2015/
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: garciaBernal on November 03, 2015, 12:40:32 PM
Post by: garciaBernal on November 03, 2015, 12:40:32 PM
Does anyone know how have those beers been looked after since they were dropped off? Storage , refrigeration temps etc.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Shanna on November 04, 2015, 07:51:58 AM
Post by: Shanna on November 04, 2015, 07:51:58 AM
Quote from: irish_goat on October 29, 2015, 10:16:12 PMAny word on a result or feedback from the judges?
Room for one more judge this Tuesday at 6pm if anyone is interested?
Shanna
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 12:32:28 PM
Post by: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 12:32:28 PM
Beers were all stored in a fridge when they arrived at the venue, not sure what temp exactly but it was pretty cold.
Judging went well, there was a good mix of homebrewers, beer judges/bloggers and staff from the brewing side of Diageo. I was paired with a fella who looks after quality control.
Beers were loosely categorised based on ingredients and then each table of judges sent their favourite beer through to the best of show. My table had a mishmash of brews. 2 were pretty much undrinkable, one had far too much clove phenols and the other had too much aniseed. 1 beer was a nice spicy, hoppy pale ale but didn't really fit the brief as a winter beer. Would have been a perfect summer beer however. Our winner was a chocolatey nut brown ale.
The top 5 were ranked in order and Smithwicks are phoning today to see if the winning brewers are available to brew next week, if they're not, they'll move down the list. The top beers were a mixture; one was a liquorice and juniper ale and the other was a cinnamon, apple and ginger ale.
Honourable mention goes to a brewer who submitted a "traditional ale" that tasted almost like a Duvel clone. The judges felt it was a bit too strong to fit the brief but it was a great beer.
They are going to try their best to give the feedback notes back to the brewers anyway.
Judging went well, there was a good mix of homebrewers, beer judges/bloggers and staff from the brewing side of Diageo. I was paired with a fella who looks after quality control.
Beers were loosely categorised based on ingredients and then each table of judges sent their favourite beer through to the best of show. My table had a mishmash of brews. 2 were pretty much undrinkable, one had far too much clove phenols and the other had too much aniseed. 1 beer was a nice spicy, hoppy pale ale but didn't really fit the brief as a winter beer. Would have been a perfect summer beer however. Our winner was a chocolatey nut brown ale.
The top 5 were ranked in order and Smithwicks are phoning today to see if the winning brewers are available to brew next week, if they're not, they'll move down the list. The top beers were a mixture; one was a liquorice and juniper ale and the other was a cinnamon, apple and ginger ale.
Honourable mention goes to a brewer who submitted a "traditional ale" that tasted almost like a Duvel clone. The judges felt it was a bit too strong to fit the brief but it was a great beer.
They are going to try their best to give the feedback notes back to the brewers anyway.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on November 04, 2015, 02:39:58 PM
Post by: Will_D on November 04, 2015, 02:39:58 PM
Cheers Thomas,
Thanks for the info.
About how many beers were entered?
Thanks for the info.
About how many beers were entered?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on November 04, 2015, 04:12:37 PM
Post by: auralabuse on November 04, 2015, 04:12:37 PM
Anyone get a call yet, very interested in what you brewed, flavour additions etc. This was my first ever entry to a competition and am keen to improve to enter the nationals at some stage. Really hope there is some kind of feedback
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Shanna on November 04, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
Post by: Shanna on November 04, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 12:32:28 PM
Beers were all stored in a fridge when they arrived at the venue, not sure what temp exactly but it was pretty cold.
Judging went well, there was a good mix of homebrewers, beer judges/bloggers and staff from the brewing side of Diageo. I was paired with a fella who looks after quality control.
Beers were loosely categorised based on ingredients and then each table of judges sent their favourite beer through to the best of show. My table had a mishmash of brews. 2 were pretty much undrinkable, one had far too much clove phenols and the other had too much aniseed. 1 beer was a nice spicy, hoppy pale ale but didn't really fit the brief as a winter beer. Would have been a perfect summer beer however. Our winner was a chocolatey nut brown ale.
The top 5 were ranked in order and Smithwicks are phoning today to see if the winning brewers are available to brew next week, if they're not, they'll move down the list. The top beers were a mixture; one was a liquorice and juniper ale and the other was a cinnamon, apple and ginger ale.
Honourable mention goes to a brewer who submitted a "traditional ale" that tasted almost like a Duvel clone. The judges felt it was a bit too strong to fit the brief but it was a great beer.
They are going to try their best to give the feedback notes back to the brewers anyway.
Something tells me with those ingredients it will be Masher Murphy or Dodge.
Shanna
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: aweisse on November 04, 2015, 06:25:12 PM
Post by: aweisse on November 04, 2015, 06:25:12 PM
Look forward to the feedback, it will be interesting.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Jacob on November 04, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Post by: Jacob on November 04, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Looks like another one for NCB :D
Well done Seb!!!
Well done Seb!!!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 07:38:29 PM
Post by: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 04, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Looks like another one for NCB :D
Well done Seb!!!
Didn't realise results were live but yep!
Seb, who goes to NCB meets won along with a fella called Stephen Ryan. Not sure if he is a member or not but I'll be sure to rope him in.
At this stage, both winners will brew a 10hL batch in the St.James Gate microbrewery. These 2 brews will then be distributed around the country to select pubs. Customers at the pubs will get samples and will be asked to pick their favourite. Overall winner is then announced in December. :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: aweisse on November 04, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Post by: aweisse on November 04, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Where were the results posted ?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: brianbrewed on November 04, 2015, 09:07:35 PM
Post by: brianbrewed on November 04, 2015, 09:07:35 PM
Where are the results???
Bit disappointed finding out via a post on a thread on a forum.
Bit disappointed finding out via a post on a thread on a forum.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 09:10:26 PM
Post by: irish_goat on November 04, 2015, 09:10:26 PM
I'm guessing Jacob was speaking to Seb personally. There doesn't seem to have been an official announcement yet so maybe just bear with them til tomorrow.
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on November 04, 2015, 09:15:20 PM
Post by: Leann ull on November 04, 2015, 09:15:20 PM
Brian don't sweat it they were calling me all day but I didn't want to answer ;), enter your beer in the Nationals and win a Medal!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: auralabuse on November 04, 2015, 09:15:56 PM
Post by: auralabuse on November 04, 2015, 09:15:56 PM
Well done to both. A nice achievement and hopefully an enjoyable prize.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on November 06, 2015, 12:55:58 AM
Post by: Will_D on November 06, 2015, 12:55:58 AM
Now you know why the NCB closed the transfer window a few days ago (see some other post from the rambling auld Welsh git)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: mkav79 on November 11, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
Post by: mkav79 on November 11, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
Hey guys, were results/feedback posted out for this?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Fatcontro11er on November 26, 2015, 08:51:07 PM
Post by: Fatcontro11er on November 26, 2015, 08:51:07 PM
Got this reply on a comment on their Facebook page!
Very poor show I feel! I know we got a pack of hops but the post alone cost £10 for the three bottle let alone the time and effort! I don't even know if they got there as there's no feed back!!!!
Hi Stuart, thanks for your interest. We had two finalists, Sebastian Kondol and homebrewing duo, Stephen Ryan and Brian Mooney. With an overwhelming amount of entries we are unable to give individual feedback but the standard was very high and the judges were very impressed with the overall quality. Thanks again for your interest, Smithwick's Ireland
Pretty derogatory!? Or is it just me?
Very poor show I feel! I know we got a pack of hops but the post alone cost £10 for the three bottle let alone the time and effort! I don't even know if they got there as there's no feed back!!!!
Hi Stuart, thanks for your interest. We had two finalists, Sebastian Kondol and homebrewing duo, Stephen Ryan and Brian Mooney. With an overwhelming amount of entries we are unable to give individual feedback but the standard was very high and the judges were very impressed with the overall quality. Thanks again for your interest, Smithwick's Ireland
Pretty derogatory!? Or is it just me?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on November 26, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
Post by: Leann ull on November 26, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
http://youtu.be/PNA7DcVppEs
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Fatcontro11er on November 26, 2015, 09:27:08 PM
Post by: Fatcontro11er on November 26, 2015, 09:27:08 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 26, 2015, 11:57:23 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 26, 2015, 11:57:23 PM
Your bang on. >:(
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: imark on November 27, 2015, 12:22:59 AM
Post by: imark on November 27, 2015, 12:22:59 AM
Would say arrogant, patronising and predictable were probably better description.
But in fairness they:
1) didn't say they'd give results and feedback.
2) gave f*** all time to actually brew for it so doubt they gave a s### what they got
So you can't expect much more from a non-beer-nerdy PR company employed by diageo to run a competition.
But in fairness they:
1) didn't say they'd give results and feedback.
2) gave f*** all time to actually brew for it so doubt they gave a s### what they got
So you can't expect much more from a non-beer-nerdy PR company employed by diageo to run a competition.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Fatcontro11er on November 27, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
Post by: Fatcontro11er on November 27, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
I didn't even save any to put in the club's comp!!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: PCBrewer on November 30, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
Post by: PCBrewer on November 30, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
I didn't bother putting in an entry in the end as the turnaround was too tight.
So has anyone any good recipes to use up the admiral hops I have?? :-\
So has anyone any good recipes to use up the admiral hops I have?? :-\
Title: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Leann ull on November 30, 2015, 09:55:56 AM
Post by: Leann ull on November 30, 2015, 09:55:56 AM
3 year old hops make great Lambics , what? Ok too low
, what? Ok too low
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: armedcor on November 30, 2015, 10:18:15 AM
Post by: armedcor on November 30, 2015, 10:18:15 AM
Lol CH nail on the head. I actually tore the bag open to get some oxygen in there for my next lambic!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Jacob on December 01, 2015, 12:52:19 PM
Post by: Jacob on December 01, 2015, 12:52:19 PM
http://www.thejournal.ie/watch-inside-st-jamess-gate-as-our-homebrew-finalists-get-cracking-on-their-christmas-ales-2474092-Dec2015/
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: garciaBernal on December 01, 2015, 01:56:19 PM
Post by: garciaBernal on December 01, 2015, 01:56:19 PM
Going to nip into The Curraghgower in Limerick Friday to see how either of these could possibly have been better than mine :P
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Bubbles on December 01, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
Post by: Bubbles on December 01, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
QuoteA DREAM COME true is the way it's been described by almost everyone involved
Amazing that they can publish an article announcing the winners of a competition and neglect to actually name the winners themselves. I can't view the video in work, are they mentioned at all??
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: molc on December 01, 2015, 02:09:56 PM
Post by: molc on December 01, 2015, 02:09:56 PM
A dream come through eh? :) Looks like they had the article written before the thing even began.
Still, swings and roundabouts. Opening communication between the breweries and the homebrewers is always a good thing, even if the macro's can't actually organise a pissup in a brewery >:)
Still, swings and roundabouts. Opening communication between the breweries and the homebrewers is always a good thing, even if the macro's can't actually organise a pissup in a brewery >:)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Kevin O'Roundwood on December 01, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Post by: Kevin O'Roundwood on December 01, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on December 01, 2015, 01:58:24 PMQuoteA DREAM COME true is the way it's been described by almost everyone involved
Amazing that they can publish an article announcing the winners of a competition and neglect to actually name the winners themselves. I can't view the video in work, are they mentioned at all??
Erra I suppose technically they're finalists not winners yet, but they did introduce themselves in the video anyway and gave a bit of a speel about the brews. Looks like a pretty cool brewday to me!
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 01, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 01, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
And I want to find out about the lads from Celbridge :)
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on December 05, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
Post by: johnrm on December 05, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
Well that was a Cockup.
4 of us turned up at The Ovens Bar at 7.30 last night.
None of the staff knew anything about the tasting.
Fully stocked with Diageo taps except for one Heineken tap.
We turned and left for the Hub.
4 of us turned up at The Ovens Bar at 7.30 last night.
None of the staff knew anything about the tasting.
Fully stocked with Diageo taps except for one Heineken tap.
We turned and left for the Hub.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: hopapotamus on December 05, 2015, 05:24:35 PM
Post by: hopapotamus on December 05, 2015, 05:24:35 PM
would i be right in thinking this whole thing is a poorly thought out advertising stunt , with no intrest in promoting homebrewing , and with little benifit to the nhc ........did the club recive any sponsership money from big D for the use of our logo and good name ?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: johnrm on December 06, 2015, 12:53:49 PM
Post by: johnrm on December 06, 2015, 12:53:49 PM
That would be a very good summary.
No palms were crossed with silver.
No palms were crossed with silver.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on December 06, 2015, 07:34:59 PM
Post by: Will_D on December 06, 2015, 07:34:59 PM
I think it certainly raised the notion of homebrewing in Ireland.
Not only did Diageo/The Journal/The press give us massive plugs for more info, the very fact that they even Considered that us kitchen sink brewers may just be able to come up with a recipe that would knock peoples socks off speaks for itself!
I suggest Thomas or the exec write a nice letter back to the gate suggesting a few improvements for next year
Not only did Diageo/The Journal/The press give us massive plugs for more info, the very fact that they even Considered that us kitchen sink brewers may just be able to come up with a recipe that would knock peoples socks off speaks for itself!
I suggest Thomas or the exec write a nice letter back to the gate suggesting a few improvements for next year
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: bachus on December 06, 2015, 08:40:07 PM
Post by: bachus on December 06, 2015, 08:40:07 PM
Craft beer revolution is a thorn in the commercial beverages' side. Most of the beers produced in big international breweries tastes awful (f**king close to water). Beer education and home brewers are threat to commercial brewing - home brewers can show that good beer have taste and flavour and exists something more than cold crap popular lager.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: hopapotamus on December 06, 2015, 08:57:03 PM
Post by: hopapotamus on December 06, 2015, 08:57:03 PM
kitchen sink brewer?.. i'have you know good sir that i brew in my bath ,
i do get that we got an increas in traffic but i feel it would have been a whole lot better if instead of being run by pr heads with buzz words it was run by maybe some group of home brewers , maybe a national club of some sort , but paid for and sponsered by the big D , they could have drop points in off licences to be collected by their reps , hops might have been sent out on time and beers brewed for a bit longer .......im not realy into compeating myself , but just felt odd about them useing us to gain creditability , just my opinion
i do get that we got an increas in traffic but i feel it would have been a whole lot better if instead of being run by pr heads with buzz words it was run by maybe some group of home brewers , maybe a national club of some sort , but paid for and sponsered by the big D , they could have drop points in off licences to be collected by their reps , hops might have been sent out on time and beers brewed for a bit longer .......im not realy into compeating myself , but just felt odd about them useing us to gain creditability , just my opinion
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: garciaBernal on December 06, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
Post by: garciaBernal on December 06, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
The Curraghgower in Limerick was listed for last Friday at 7.30. Nobody in the pub knew anything about it when I asked about the two beers.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Drum on December 06, 2015, 10:40:50 PM
Post by: Drum on December 06, 2015, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: garciaBernal on December 06, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
The Curraghgower in Limerick was listed for last Friday at 7.30. Nobody in the pub knew anything about it when I asked about the two beers.
That's the second pub that was supposed to have the beers for sampling but knew nothing about it.
Did anyone actually get to taste the beers at any of the other 8 pubs listed?
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on December 07, 2015, 08:38:53 AM
Post by: irish_goat on December 07, 2015, 08:38:53 AM
The winner announcement is this Wednesday. I think after we'll sit down and do a review of the competition, and then as Will suggests, send our feedback onto the organisers.
Haven't tasted the beers myself yet but I was pleasantly surprised to see that both beers were brewed to 6.5%+.
Haven't tasted the beers myself yet but I was pleasantly surprised to see that both beers were brewed to 6.5%+.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: Will_D on December 07, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Post by: Will_D on December 07, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Indeed Thomas as was I!
Great that they didn't dumb them down in an way.
Will be very interested to see what Simthwicks do with these two great recipes in the future.
Great that they didn't dumb them down in an way.
Will be very interested to see what Simthwicks do with these two great recipes in the future.
Title: Re: Smithwicks Homebrew Challenge
Post by: irish_goat on December 10, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
Post by: irish_goat on December 10, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
Winner was announced last night, 2 fellas from Celbridge called Ryan and Stephen won with their Old Town Ale. They're aware of the club and have been meaning to get involved so I got their number and will be in touch and see if they are interested in going to a Liffey Brewer's meetup.
Open Gate is an interesting place, wasn't massively impressed by the beers available but had a chat with head brewer Jason, formerly of Fran Well, and he has some interesting ideas in the pipeline and said he pretty much has free reign to brew whatever he wants. He's only recently started so the beers there last night were probably not his own. It's open to the public from today onwards anyway, bit of a trek if you're not based around the area though.
From the club's point of view, we'll do a review of the competition and our involvement when the dust settles. :)
Open Gate is an interesting place, wasn't massively impressed by the beers available but had a chat with head brewer Jason, formerly of Fran Well, and he has some interesting ideas in the pipeline and said he pretty much has free reign to brew whatever he wants. He's only recently started so the beers there last night were probably not his own. It's open to the public from today onwards anyway, bit of a trek if you're not based around the area though.
From the club's point of view, we'll do a review of the competition and our involvement when the dust settles. :)