National Homebrew Club Ireland

Was wondering what type of bottles and what size is used??

Standard wine bottles, you can fro if you have it in 330's

I can't see where you can select wine from the dropdown list for entry, am I missing something?

Quote from: CH on January 13, 2016, 07:39:23 PM
Standard wine bottles, you can fro if you have it in 330's

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Quote from: Will_D on January 16, 2016, 10:34:20 AM
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Fu*k right off?

BrewDorg there is a context to that statement and since you don't know it, Brewers had asked could they enter 330's and after much debate and advisement it is only 500ml for beer.
A standard wine bottle is 750ml so one of those

I was only guessing what 'fro' meant.

Ross O Carroll-Kelly

I am getting the impression that wine entry is not being encoragedon this thread here.

I wanted to know whether there was a typo in "fro" or was it meant as Brewdog meant?

I don't do text speak short forms/anagrams.

Please clearly specify what the entry requiremnt is for wine!

I was confused but I think they mean  f right off
Its not clear whether bjcp rules allow a bit of lube

Just no 330mls. 500ml or 750ml bottles are fine.   :)

10 posts later, I'm now more informed  :P :P :P

Quote from: Simon_ on January 16, 2016, 10:00:55 PM
Its not clear whether bjcp rules allow a bit of lube

They do, but you have to specify whether it's session/standard/imperial lube..

Sorry IG there will be specific crates and so

750ML BOTTLE IS THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE BOTTLE SIZE FOR THE 2016 NHC COMP WINE CATEGORY.

As has been said before please put full descriptive of your wine to help judges.

The fuck right off ref was in case anybody wanted to submit 330's for wine as was asked in other cats. and refused.

@Will as we have said in several threads now we are the National Homebrew Club and will judge all fermented items. Wine was accepted last year for the first time, but to be  clear this is primarily a beer competition so they will all have medal cats but even ciders, mead, wine and any other fermentable alcoholic beverages do not have the same priority as we don't have the resources.

Quote from: Dr Horrible on January 15, 2016, 09:51:46 PM
I can't see where you can select wine from the dropdown list for entry, am I missing something?

I can't see a category for wines either 😕

Ok that will be sorted tomorrow

Ok folks


I have added a new 'Style Type', thats Wine.

35-A : Wine - General
Please provide as much information as possible to ensure your Wine is judged fairly.
750 bottles only please

Please note - PLEASE provide as much information as possible to ensure your entry is judged fairly (did I mention that ??)

Best of luck !

James

Just to let entrants know there will be special attention given to these entries from a special crate to the way they will be handled and served on the day so as you would expect reds will be served at room temp and whites chilled.
Thanks to Partridge for sorting this additional cat on the entry system.
As I have said already on lots of posts please put a full descriptive to help judges score your entry.

Most importantly please indicate if its "Kit" or "Country" or "Other"

Kit: Made from commercial wine kits. Please specify colour and anything else

Country: Made predominantly from the hedgerow or the back garden. Basic style would be helpful like a "White Pea Pod Chardonnay"or a full bodied "Ruby Red Beetrot Snuggler".

"Other" a catch all for any thing else like Port/Sherry/Vermouth. Just tell us what it is supposed to be like

Quote from: Will_D on January 17, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
"White Pea Pod Chardonnay"or a full bodied "Ruby Red Beetrot Snuggler".

You lucky NCBers! I'd love to taste these concoctions!

Hmm do you want to state whether it's a kit or not as we don't with beer or cider kits in case of negative judge perception from the outset?

Quote from: Bubbles on January 17, 2016, 08:00:23 PM

Quote from: Will_D on January 17, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
"White Pea Pod Chardonnay"or a full bodied "Ruby Red Beetrot Snuggler".

You lucky NCBers! I'd love to taste these concoctions!

Sounds like bubbles wants to be asked to judge the wines ;) :D ;)

My point about kit or country is actually quite subtle:

Beer is brewed by many processes ranging from AG , thro' extract, passing by hacked kits to the simple kit and Kilo
The cost to the brewer:
Ag cheapest, ... Hacked Kit prolly most expensive

Now we come to wine making:

Country Wines: €10 for sugar per 5 gallons - the rest is free from hedge/garden!

Wine kits: Start at about €25 for a 5g kit and need 4 kilos of sugar and then rise all the way up to about €90 for about 12 kgs of almost pure 50% reduced grape juice from real grapes (no need for sugar).

Do you see my point?

Pay enough for a kit and have even half a brain you should win the wine class!

Quote from: rje66 on January 17, 2016, 09:19:09 PM

Quote from: Bubbles on January 17, 2016, 08:00:23 PM

Quote from: Will_D on January 17, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
"White Pea Pod Chardonnay"or a full bodied "Ruby Red Beetrot Snuggler".

You lucky NCBers! I'd love to taste these concoctions!

Sounds like bubbles wants to be asked to judge the wines ;) :D ;)

Most definitely not!

I entered my kit wine there but i'm just wondering if its one per category as it won't allow me to enter my country wine.  It says that i've reached my limit

I'm afraid this would happen!

There is no 1 cat limit for wines, just be sensible

@James; Can we sort this?

No worries,  sort it after work today,  lads just so you know, the 2015 guidelines completely wiped the old styles, that's why this has to be Re done. On the plus side, won't need to be done for next year

Quote from: Partridge9 on January 18, 2016, 07:48:20 AM
No worries,  sort it after work today

Thanks for sorting this

I think john has removed the entry limit on this category ,
Can someone check ?

There is an Exception th the entry limit for Subcategory 35A: Wine - General
Come back here of any issues.
Thanks

35A Wine - General asks for 'Specific Type, Special Ingredients and/or Classic Style Required' but it doesn't give the additional text box to fill in the details.

Ok, this seems to be working:

Select Cat 35A and fill in, add any extra info into the "Brewers Specifics" box

Click submitt and you will get an error request to fill in (upto 50) caharacter the required extra info. Summarise your wine in less than 50 chars like "A kit brewed light summer rosé" or "Full bodied country hedgerow Red" or "An experimental dry Sherry made from Parsnips"

Try to get in kit / country / or other (say for non table strength wines)

Then hit submit and thats entry number one done.

Just repeat the above for other wines!

Thanks to all for making this work.
It is appreciated by us small band of wine makers

Thanks for the feedback Will.
The chatter behind the scenes is that there is a need to feature a wine competition.

Quote from: robotmonkey on January 18, 2016, 09:50:29 AM
35A Wine - General asks for 'Specific Type, Special Ingredients and/or Classic Style Required' but it doesn't give the additional text box to fill in the details.

Same for M4B (Historical Mead): "Specific Type, Special Ingredients and/or Classic Style Required".

Can you screenshot and post this?
I tested wines and it looked ok to me. I will test later.

Quote from: bachus on January 19, 2016, 03:45:27 PM

Quote from: robotmonkey on January 18, 2016, 09:50:29 AM
35A Wine - General asks for 'Specific Type, Special Ingredients and/or Classic Style Required' but it doesn't give the additional text box to fill in the details.

Same for M4B (Historical Mead): "Specific Type, Special Ingredients and/or Classic Style Required".

Re wine: see post #31 above, click submitt and you will get the error page with the box to fill in!

I tested this.
Yes, the bug is there.
Solution...
Hit submit first without the special ingredients.
Go back and edit in the special ingredients, hit submit again.
Done.
Sorry about this.

FYI, I have submitted this for bug-fix to the developer.

Just gonna enter my country wine and there doesn't appear to be a 35A wine category in the drop down box, maybe because i entered one already in this category.  Any thoughts?

try again !

I already entered two with no problem! 35A is there just after the 34's!

I didn't realise wine was Cat 35, I was looking for a cat after the ciders and meads Doooh!!

35A was gone for a small while this evening.
There is a story that involves soiled underwear.
Its back now.
@Will, BCOE&M does not have wine as standard - 35A is just the next available number - There is no BJCP style for wine AFAIK.
I guess the hint is in the acronym - BEER Judge Certification Program.
(so WTF is Mead and Cider in there? One of lifes great mysteries!)

oh, not a 'BEE Judge Certification Program' ?

Thanks for that.  Got it entered

Quote from: bachus on January 20, 2016, 10:02:59 PM
oh, not a 'BEE Judge Certification Program' ?

Nice!

As long as its all working again!

Now here's a bummer of a question:

"Capped at 400 entries" - Does that include Wine/Mead/Cider ??

Yes

Quote from: bachus on January 20, 2016, 10:02:59 PM
oh, not a 'BEE Judge Certification Program' ?

Oh Bachus have you not heard, Bubbles volunteered you and him to run it in May, can't wait great enthusiasm there for the cause ;)

I'll be your first victim/student :D

Quote from: CH on January 20, 2016, 11:42:05 PM

Quote from: bachus on January 20, 2016, 10:02:59 PM
oh, not a 'BEE Judge Certification Program' ?

Oh Bachus have you not heard, Bubbles volunteered you and him to run it in May, can't wait great enthusiasm there for the cause ;)

;D

Might not be such great enthusiasm after the comp!  ;) :D

"And the winner from 20 entries of the 2017 Mead Sour Cat #204B is..."

Winos the Comp Committee need your input for the feedback form for the wine for Sat.
The attached is one option or is there something else you would like to see used?

to what looks like the international 20 point standard as attached

This is the one used last year, and for the National Off-License Association for their blind tastings for "Wine of the Year". But I think the gradings can be a bit derogatory, and so prefer yours CH.

"
BLIND TASTING - MARKINGS

NAME: ____________________________

FLIGHT NO: ¬¬¬¬¬¬___________________            WINE NO: ____________

PLEASE WRITE YOUR NOTES IN BOX PROVIDED
APPEARANCE (2) (Half points permitted)   (POINTS _____________)



NOSE (6) (Half points permitted)   (POINTS _____________)








PALATE (6) Half points permitted)   (POINTS _____________)








CONCLUSION (6) (Half points permitted)   (POINTS _____________)








      

TOTAL POINTS (20)                                             (POINTS ___________)
(Half Points Permitted)

HOW TO SCORE (GRADE GUIDE) IN A WORLD CONTEXT.... NOT JUST YOUR FLIGHT
Class A   19 – 20    Sublime; out of this world; a wine that you would have on your death bed!
Class B   17 – 18    Stunning, with depth and multilayered complexity whose quality and style are commensurate with its price..one for a lotto win or a celebration
Class C   15 – 16    A delicious wine with good complexity whose quality and style are commensurate with its price..one for a special evening  with really good friends
Class D   13 – 14    A very nice wine whose quality and style are commensurate with its price.one you would be pleased to receive  or give as a gift
Class E   11 – 12    Fairly good for its price and style. A midweek quaffer when things are a bit tight.
Class F   8 – 10    Basic, ordinary. Last one on the rack and you have no idea where it came from.
Class G   5 – 7     Barely drinkable. Something refused at a function for 500 people
Class H   1 – 4    Undrinkable. Something refused at a vinegar factory

"

Something refused at a vinegar factory, love it!!
Permission to use that about a beer on Sat?

You're welcome, my friend.

The usual charge will apply  :P

Usual unmarked bills enroute

prefer CHs sheet

Best luck guys!

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