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Title: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on March 09, 2016, 10:10:07 PM

Folks we are hoping to run the BJCP Classes and exam this year.

It will run for about 6 classes, with an additional Mock exam and BJCP tasting exam.

Its Saturday morning, starting around 11am finishing at 1:30 /2 pm at the latest.

Generally each class consists of a small talk about a style, tasting and scoring some beers, typically its about 6 beers.

We will properly score about 4 of these.

The cost of the classes are around 12 Euro - depending on numbers etc.

Its run as 'not for profit' so basically your paying for the beer that needs to be brought in.

At the end of the course, there is a mock exam and a proper BJCP tasting exam, where you can get certified with BJCP to judge beer competitions.

If you would like to participate in the course - please select which classes you can attend from the dates in this poll

The 6 most popular dates will be choosen

Please fill out the poll here (http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6)

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Post by: pob on March 09, 2016, 10:21:28 PM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)

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Post by: dcalnan on March 09, 2016, 10:34:41 PM

I'd be interested but that depends if I move up to the pale or not.

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Post by: Frequent Sequence on March 09, 2016, 10:36:26 PM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence

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Post by: passaia on March 09, 2016, 10:49:23 PM

4. passaia

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Post by: molc on March 09, 2016, 11:04:40 PM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)

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Post by: JamesDavin on March 09, 2016, 11:32:51 PM

I'd be extremely interested :)

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Post by: helmet on March 10, 2016, 06:56:53 AM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet

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Post by: neoanto on March 10, 2016, 09:36:10 AM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto

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Post by: danger_zone on March 10, 2016, 01:37:32 PM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone

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Post by: IrishBeerSnob on March 10, 2016, 04:48:45 PM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob

Title: Re: Re: Re: BJCP course 2016
Post by: Will_D on March 10, 2016, 08:14:05 PM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: oreils87 on March 10, 2016, 08:52:29 PM

Is it possible to start with this class or does this require more experience?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on March 10, 2016, 09:05:50 PM

Class is a perfect starting point. All you need is interest and the rest will take care of itself.

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on March 16, 2016, 02:48:41 PM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on March 16, 2016, 03:02:36 PM

Some ideas:

Could be look to live-streaming the sessions. I'm thinking of people outside of Dublin who want to do the BJCP but can't make the trip in- If we gave them the beer list for each session, along with the course notes, they could follow online.

While I really appreciated The Black Sheep for hosting us, I did think the room was less than ideal for what we are trying to do; a little dark and a little cramped. Could we consider another venue? Shiny did mention that TOG might be a possibility but it's not in a fit state yet. I can think of a number of other places with spare space and a desire to help us out.

Are there any flavours/notes we'd like to cover this year other than the 10 standards that come with the Aroxa/FlavorActiv kits? Currently:

2,3-butanedione: "Diacetyl, like butter, or butter popcorn"
dimethyl sulphide: "DMS, like sweetcorn or tomato sauce"
ferrous sulphate: "Metallic, like ink or blood"
hop oil extract: "Hop oil, like hoppy ale"
hydrogen sulphide: "H2S, like boiled or rotten eggs"
isoamyl acetate: "Isoamyl acetate, like bananas or pear drops"
3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol: "Lightstruck, like a skunk or freshly-brewed coffee"
trans-2-nonenal: "Papery, like cardboard or oxidized beer"
2,4,6-trichloroanisole: "Musty, like corked wine or a damp cellar"
4-vinyl guaiacol: "Phenolic, like cloves or wheat beer"

Finally (to leave on a positive note as my TM training tells me I should always do), I think what really worked well last year was rotating the speakers between each beer/sensory session.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on March 16, 2016, 04:57:07 PM

Additional flavours/aromas -

Acetaldehyde: "fresh cut green apples, cut grass"
Isovaleric Acid: "cheesy, old hops, sweat socks" _{see hop kit}

a smoky, plastic phenol one would be hady, can't find one?

& for a bit of luxurious spoiling, how about the new Siebel Hop Sensory kit (https://www.siebelinstitute.com/products/sensorykits/hop-sensory-kit/)?

+ 1 on last years format

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on March 16, 2016, 05:27:52 PM

We did the isovaleric and acetaldehyde at the sensory session recap. Can't remember if they were FlavorActiv or Siebel though (I was using both)

Title: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on March 16, 2016, 06:54:23 PM

Would it be possible to do a hop tea (in a Molson or something equally mweh) session, eg noble, English, US, New World to get to see their different profiles.

Could be a separate day (bit like the sensory recap day), handy to identify characteristics of each.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on March 16, 2016, 07:24:51 PM

You can get some coors light and dose each with a dry hop in the bottle of 1-2 pellets to test out some different aromas as well. It's a great way of seeing combinations against each other.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on March 16, 2016, 07:52:40 PM

That's what I was thinking in conjunction with the Siebel Hop kit.

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Post by: 5MinFinney on March 16, 2016, 10:17:40 PM

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Post by: Samael on March 29, 2016, 10:54:04 AM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on March 29, 2016, 12:25:42 PM

Yes Andrew, we want !!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: ManseMasher on April 03, 2016, 08:15:12 AM

Quote from: Andrew on March 16, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
Some ideas:

Could be look to live-streaming the sessions. I'm thinking of people outside of Dublin who want to do the BJCP but can't make the trip in- If we gave them the beer list for each session, along with the course notes, they could follow online.

While I really appreciated The Black Sheep for hosting us, I did think the room was less than ideal for what we are trying to do; a little dark and a little cramped. Could we consider another venue? Shiny did mention that TOG might be a possibility but it's not in a fit state yet. I can think of a number of other places with spare space and a desire to help us out.

Are there any flavours/notes we'd like to cover this year other than the 10 standards that come with the Aroxa/FlavorActiv kits? Currently:

2,3-butanedione: "Diacetyl, like butter, or butter popcorn"
dimethyl sulphide: "DMS, like sweetcorn or tomato sauce"
ferrous sulphate: "Metallic, like ink or blood"
hop oil extract: "Hop oil, like hoppy ale"
hydrogen sulphide: "H2S, like boiled or rotten eggs"
isoamyl acetate: "Isoamyl acetate, like bananas or pear drops"
3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol: "Lightstruck, like a skunk or freshly-brewed coffee"
trans-2-nonenal: "Papery, like cardboard or oxidized beer"
2,4,6-trichloroanisole: "Musty, like corked wine or a damp cellar"
4-vinyl guaiacol: "Phenolic, like cloves or wheat beer"

Finally (to leave on a positive note as my TM training tells me I should always do), I think what really worked well last year was rotating the speakers between each beer/sensory session.

If it could be live streamed I would be very interested indeed!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on April 03, 2016, 09:56:48 AM

Excellent, so it looks like we have enough to proceed

I'll get get onto the volunteers and come back with dates

Great stuff !

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Post by: Simon_ on April 03, 2016, 12:44:34 PM

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Post by: Hingo on April 06, 2016, 03:49:18 PM

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Post by: BrewCity on April 06, 2016, 06:46:07 PM

Would definitely be interested in live streaming. Even if we all gathered in one spot in Cork and streamed with Dublin, it would be a huge burden lifted having to travel up and down every time.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mr hoppy on April 06, 2016, 10:47:40 PM

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Post by: leahyed on April 06, 2016, 11:03:54 PM

Quote from: BrewCity on April 06, 2016, 06:46:07 PM
Would definitely be interested in live streaming. Even if we all gathered in one spot in Cork and streamed with Dublin, it would be a huge burden lifted having to travel up and down every time.

I would also be interested in live streaming to Cork. I will keep an eye on this thread.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Drum on April 06, 2016, 11:06:40 PM

+2

I Like the streaming idea aswell. the only major problem would be the off flavour kit session, otherwise people could follow along at home if they need to

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on April 07, 2016, 09:00:07 AM

I did punt the idea of live streaming to the organisers ;)

As for the sensory sessions (not "off-flavours"). If there were enough people in each area, I could arrange kits. Otherwise, I can hack together a do-it-yourself guide (hot water on cardboard for oxidisation; sniff a granny smith apple for acetaldehyde; drink a Coors Light for diacetyl...)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on April 07, 2016, 10:04:38 AM

The cork thing could work, if you got 3 or 4 together.
We could arrange for the same classes to run in Cork and dublin. We could supply the sheets and beer list, just need an organiser that end to pick up the relavent beer

Then just pop up for the mock exam and the real exam in November

It would be pretty cool.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: BigDanny84 on April 07, 2016, 05:11:18 PM

I would be interested in participating in Cork too.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on April 07, 2016, 05:41:26 PM

Streaming would be something else needs a local person on the ground to do "the sub organising"

Quote from: Andrew on April 07, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
sniff a granny for acetaldehyde

what is it you get up to in these sensory sessions?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: David on April 07, 2016, 06:27:03 PM

Well my granny Smith has just volunteered.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: johnrm on April 08, 2016, 08:07:53 AM

I will help out with the Cork leg as much as possible if someone wants to run point.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: LASERBOY147 on April 08, 2016, 08:36:01 AM

Hi. I live in Tullamore I'd love to do the sensory part and would be interested to know more on how I could do it in Tullamore with the midlands brewers( possibly via live streaming or video download? ) anyway I doubt I'll ever be able to head to Dublin for 6-8 Saturdays (that wouldn't fly) but the sensory thing is something every beer club should be doing imo. Thanks for any advice and good luck with the course.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on April 08, 2016, 11:22:25 AM

Quote from: LASERBOY147 on April 08, 2016, 08:36:01 AM
Hi. I live in Tullamore I'd love to do the sensory part and would be interested to know more on how I could do it in Tullamore with the midlands brewers( possibly via live streaming or video download? ) anyway I doubt I'll ever be able to head to Dublin for 6-8 Saturdays (that wouldn't fly) but the sensory thing is something every beer club should be doing imo. Thanks for any advice and good luck with the course.

Just get yourself a kit. Siebel are the best but are the most expensive. FlavorActiv and Aroxa are good. Try either of the following:
http://www.flavoractiv.com/drinks/beers/enthusiast-kit/
http://www.aroxa.com/beer/beer-flavour-standard-kit/beer-uno-kit

Note: If you are BJCP certified, you are entitled to discounted Siebel kit from them.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on April 08, 2016, 12:49:00 PM

Will have some news after Brewcon about off flavour kits

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Jonnycheech on April 09, 2016, 09:22:46 AM

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Post by: Ciaran on April 09, 2016, 12:17:23 PM

I'm guess the streaming thing isn't going to fly but if it does I'd be interested and I can think of at least one more from Belfast. As already said if it would work to travel down for the mock/real exams etc I'd be in.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on April 09, 2016, 01:52:08 PM

Don't rule it out yet, might be worth trying to stream (eg periscope) from a club meet as a trial, see how it works out.

Might try it for 5-10mins next week at GCBrewers meet.

I'll stick link up (reminder: must stick in diary)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on April 24, 2016, 01:47:27 PM

Had a good conversation with Bill and Cara Simpson on the Aroxa kits. There may be interest in putting a specific kit together especially for homebrewers and homebrew clubs. I'm also looking at doing their week-long sensory course.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on April 24, 2016, 02:58:40 PM

The sensory course really does sound like the business and a great way to teach judging.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Boycott on April 24, 2016, 09:36:17 PM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: robotmonkey on April 25, 2016, 07:19:37 AM

Quote from: Ciaran on April 09, 2016, 12:17:23 PM
I'm guess the streaming thing isn't going to fly but if it does I'd be interested and I can think of at least one more from Belfast. As already said if it would work to travel down for the mock/real exams etc I'd be in.

I'd be up for this too if it was possible.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Will_D on April 25, 2016, 11:26:18 AM

Quote from: Andrew on April 24, 2016, 01:47:27 PM
Had a good conversation with Bill and Cara Simpson on the Aroxa kits. There may be interest in putting a specific kit together especially for homebrewers and homebrew clubs. I'm also looking at doing their week-long sensory course.

As did I!

I will pm you with my thoughts.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Hingo on April 25, 2016, 03:32:05 PM

Good stuff on the sensory kits guys, keep us posted. It would be a big one for me.
Only so much a written description of a flavor can do, but knowing exactly how it tastes on its own will go a long way to help you pick it out from the tapestry of flavors going on in a brew.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: giacomo on April 25, 2016, 08:25:20 PM

I'm interested in the sensory training too! Keep me posted :D

And of course, if I can help for the classes, let me know

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: irish_goat on April 27, 2016, 01:59:12 PM

Good news folks, Gordon has informed us that attending the conference and the Leann Follain tasting will count towards "Continuing Education" points. Will work with James to getting a full list forwarded on to the BJCP.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on April 27, 2016, 08:34:48 PM

Oh ya jammy sods

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on April 27, 2016, 10:53:54 PM

I forwarded all the emails and names, if the BJCP ids are required I'll get back

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Title: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on May 02, 2016, 09:37:37 PM

Just wondering if we could also register the Sensory course under the Continuing Education Program Description (http://www.bjcp.org/cep/index.php)?

Would be handy to gain a point for it to get people started.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on May 02, 2016, 09:57:57 PM

Good idea. This whole continuous improvement points thing was news to me when Gordon said it.

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on May 03, 2016, 04:10:17 PM

I'm up for doing the exam again, ideally without a cold this time.
1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob
11. Will_D (unless I score "Grand Vizzier Rank" in last years exam!)
12. GlasBrewInc
13. Tommy
14. oreils87
15. Fergal
16. BrewCity
17. Andrew- very happy to carry on doing the off-flavours and sensory sessions if you want me...
18. 5minfinney
19. Samael
20. Simon
21. Hingo
22. Johnnycheech - Interested in retaking exam if possible??
23. DCBrewing
24. Maja - Exam only

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: phoenix on May 03, 2016, 05:00:07 PM

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob
11. Will_D (unless I score "Grand Vizzier Rank" in last years exam!)
12. GlasBrewInc
13. Tommy
14. oreils87
15. Fergal
16. BrewCity
17. Andrew- very happy to carry on doing the off-flavours and sensory sessions if you want me...
18. 5minfinney
19. Samael
20. Simon
21. Hingo
22. Johnnycheech - Interested in retaking exam if possible??
23. DCBrewing
24. Maja - Exam only
25. Ciaran - Exam only

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on May 03, 2016, 05:08:23 PM

Hmm, made a mess of the list when I posted it.

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob
11. Will_D (unless I score "Grand Vizzier Rank" in last years exam!)
12. GlasBrewInc
13. Tommy
14. oreils87
15. Fergal
16. BrewCity
17. Andrew- very happy to carry on doing the off-flavours and sensory sessions if you want me...
18. 5minfinney
19. Samael
20. Simon
21. Hingo
22. Johnnycheech - Interested in retaking exam if possible??
23. DCBrewing
24. Maja
25. Ciaran - Exam only
26. Saruman - Exam only

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: cunnol on May 04, 2016, 05:15:23 PM

Would you say these will run into July? I won't be around until the second week of July but would love to drop in to do some off flavour tasting

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: nigel_c on May 04, 2016, 05:22:10 PM

Quote from: cunnol on May 04, 2016, 05:15:23 PM
would love to drop in to do some off flavour tasting

You could just go to one of the Liffey Brewers meet ups if you'd like to try some off flavors. ;D

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 04, 2016, 05:46:38 PM

Jaysus that's brave

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Post by: nigel_c on May 04, 2016, 05:53:31 PM

:P

#keyboardwarrior

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Roo on May 15, 2016, 09:48:32 AM

Along with Ciaran and Robotmonkey the live stream Belfast would have me in. It's the progression I need but to be fair Brewcon was a stretch with the missus. Doesn't help every time I come back from Dublin I'm winged.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Will_D on May 15, 2016, 11:23:57 AM

Hi Guys,

Theres a lot of interest in the new course already.

You can gain experience points before you even join the Bjcp and sit the exams!

As some may know we ( the North County Brewers) are holding a BJCP registered competion in the Old Borough, Swords on the 29th of May. Thats two weeks tomorrow. We are looking for 3 more judges to help us out. Problem is its on a Sunday. The first train from Dublin gets into Malahide at 9:40. We can pick you up from the station!

We aim to start at about 10 am and be finished the first round by 12 ish. Then there's a BOS round and then the craft afternoon. We will have beers to give away!

Naturally food is provided for the judges and stewards.

If you can help us out please update this thread:

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,15375.msg149910.html#msg149910

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mr hoppy on May 15, 2016, 01:52:19 PM

Any indication whether the living streaming idea is a runner? I know there'd be some takers for it down here in the PRC.

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on May 15, 2016, 02:00:52 PM

Quote from: mr hoppy on May 15, 2016, 01:52:19 PM
Any indication whether the living streaming idea is a runner?

Would need a location with good wifi, lighting & a good webcam (maybe a tablet?) - last year it was dark enough for our own eyes, let alone for a video camera to try & work in.

Worth a try tough, through YouTube Live, Periscope or similar.

Issue is, can we/somebody always remember to bring suitable gear & set it up - any volunteers.

Think it should go on the to do list at least.

Title: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 15, 2016, 08:23:45 PM

Would those that want to do it remotely consider paying a surcharge as you will be saving train fare etc? And what is reasonable? 10 a session to sit and do it from home? Reason I ask there may may be a semi-pro that would do it rather that putting that on the organisers

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mr hoppy on May 15, 2016, 08:39:58 PM

What would the surcharge cover? I'm not saying no - if there's an additional cost to the club very happy to pay it plus a reasonable margin but train fare is a red herring. Travelling to Dublin on a regular basis for this is just not an option for me regardless of cost.

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Title: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 15, 2016, 10:25:54 PM

Forget the trainfare thing I guess I was just asking the question to see whether if people can't travel could they pay for it to be done properly as its not fair to expect the current organisers to have to provide that facility as well as organise everything else.
I'm sure the club would make a contribution as well but think it should be for members only.
There may even be a member out there that has all the gear that doesn't mind getting out of bed early on a Sat morning to do a nixer?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mr hoppy on May 15, 2016, 11:47:21 PM

Personally I would be prepared to pay extra to do it right as long as it wasn't ridiculous.

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: oreils87 on May 19, 2016, 07:39:31 PM

I've got equipment to do YouTube videos if its needed, (lighting set, camera, backdrop) no problem setting that up if it's needed.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on May 20, 2016, 09:10:05 AM

Quote from: oreils87 on May 19, 2016, 07:39:31 PM
I've got equipment to do YouTube videos if its needed, (lighting set, camera, backdrop) no problem setting that up if it's needed.

Might be an idea to do a test session. Does anyone have a preference for which live stream service to use?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: oreils87 on May 21, 2016, 11:30:49 PM

I have an easy webinar account that we can use, just need to send private invites to those joining (just email needed) and people can then watch live?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on May 23, 2016, 12:09:54 PM

Quote from: oreils87 on May 21, 2016, 11:30:49 PM
I have an easy webinar account that we can use, just need to send private invites to those joining (just email needed) and people can then watch live?

Sounds read-to-go out of the bag. So maybe as an idea, a week or two before the next BJCP sessions start we invite remote groups to a test session so we can iron out any kinks before hand. Of course the next thing to do is to identify a venue...

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: oreils87 on May 23, 2016, 11:19:00 PM

The test would ideally have to be in the potential venue as the wifi could make it or break it.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Jacob on May 24, 2016, 09:16:54 AM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on May 24, 2016, 09:25:40 AM

Quote from: oreils87 on May 23, 2016, 11:19:00 PM
The test would ideally have to be in the potential venue as the wifi could make it or break it.

Just what I was thinking. I do have a portable 4G WiFi router if we are really stuck...

Now we just need to throw around a few ideas for possible venues. Off the top of my head I'm thinking upstairs at Against The Grain; top floor Sweetmans; games room The Square Ball; I can think of a couple more but these are the most central.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Will_D on May 24, 2016, 09:45:47 AM

ATG is a pain to get to from the North side. Brewdock is the most central and well connected to bus/rail!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on May 24, 2016, 11:14:31 AM

Quote from: Will_D on May 24, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
ATG is a pain to get to from the North side. Brewdock is the most central and well connected to bus/rail!

We'll have to check that we can reserve the upstairs area. I can have a chat to Andy Byrne.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: FlimFlamFlo on May 30, 2016, 07:31:35 PM

Quote from: mr hoppy on May 15, 2016, 01:52:19 PM
Any indication whether the living streaming idea is a runner? I know there'd be some takers for it down here in the PRC.

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+1 if a livestream is possible...

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Pheeel on May 30, 2016, 10:35:58 PM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on June 06, 2016, 11:26:13 AM

Folks we have kicked off the Facilitators or helpers poll
Once we have the top 8 dates we will get back firm up everything.

If you fancy doing the course, you will then pick the dates you can attend.
The two least favoured dates are then elimated.

This leaves 6 classes. You then register and pay for which (or all) of the classes you can attend.
We would recommend attending 4, and also recommend not missing the sensory session.

Once the 6 classes are complete, we will arrange the 'Mock' exam and then the actual exam, hopefully in November.

Thanks

James

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Dunkel on June 06, 2016, 01:32:04 PM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pob on June 06, 2016, 03:22:53 PM

Quote from: Partridge9 on June 06, 2016, 11:26:13 AM
Folks we have kicked off the Facilitators or helpers poll
Once we have the top 8 dates we will get back firm up everything.

name & dates added

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: IrishBeerSnob on June 12, 2016, 01:28:32 PM

Is there a deadline to register?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on June 12, 2016, 10:28:00 PM

Folks

The helpers have all submitted their dates - If you would like to participate in the course - please select which classes you can attend from the dates in this poll

The 6 most popular dates will be choosen

Please fill out the poll here (http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6)

Thanks

James

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: jawalemon on June 12, 2016, 11:03:15 PM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: ac13 on June 19, 2016, 11:06:33 AM

Am interested in participating but would have to do it remotely.

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob
11. Will_D (unless I score "Grand Vizzier Rank" in last years exam!)
12. GlasBrewInc
13. Tommy
14. oreils87
15. Fergal
16. BrewCity
17. Andrew- very happy to carry on doing the off-flavours and sensory sessions if you want me...
18. 5minfinney
19. Samael
20. Simon
21. Hingo
22. Johnnycheech - Interested in retaking exam if possible??
23. DCBrewing
24. Maja
25. Ciaran - Exam only
26. Saruman - Exam only
27. Jacob
28. Pheeel
29. Dunkel - off flavours only, maybe retaking exam too
30. JawaLemon
31. ac13

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Skittlebrau on June 23, 2016, 09:58:55 PM

I'm interested in this course too.

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob
11. Will_D (unless I score "Grand Vizzier Rank" in last years exam!)
12. GlasBrewInc
13. Tommy
14. oreils87
15. Fergal
16. BrewCity
17. Andrew- very happy to carry on doing the off-flavours and sensory sessions if you want me...
18. 5minfinney
19. Samael
20. Simon
21. Hingo
22. Johnnycheech - Interested in retaking exam if possible??
23. DCBrewing
24. Maja
25. Ciaran - Exam only
26. Saruman - Exam only
27. Jacob
28. Pheeel
29. Dunkel - off flavours only, maybe retaking exam too
30. JawaLemon
31. ac13
32. Skittlebrau

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on June 29, 2016, 08:09:20 AM

Folks

If you are interested in the course - please select which classes you can attend, the 6 most popular dates will be chosen

I'll talk to andrew about the off tasting, but that might be the date with which is most popular, as its very important.

Anyways - if you are interested, please complete the poll (first post updated as well)

Our class size is limited to about 16. The class price will probably be about 13 euro

Thanks

James

Poll Located here ! (http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: IrishBeerSnob on June 29, 2016, 07:13:23 PM

Hopefully the six i picked come up, am away for a good bit in August!
Fair play lads

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 02, 2016, 10:16:29 AM

Gents - this course is near capacity - just so you know

Please fill out the poll (http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6)if you are interested !

Fair warning !

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: guest1585 on July 07, 2016, 01:43:24 PM

I'm very interested in the BJCP course. Stephen Doherty 😃

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: johnrm on July 08, 2016, 10:25:39 AM

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 09, 2016, 12:03:33 PM

Folks

A lot of people on this list - we only have about 2 or 3 more seats available

please fill out the poll here (http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6)

Remember - you dont need to attend every class, if you made four of the six, that would be grand

We are probably going to close it off on Tuesday July 12th.

There is plenty going on behind the scenes, regarding sourcing the beers, the venue and the class content -

Hopefully we can secure more Judges scoring 70 and 80+ this year.

James

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: helmet on July 09, 2016, 12:28:32 PM

Any more movement on the streaming idea?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 09, 2016, 12:38:25 PM

We dont have reception in the basement in the Black Sheep, upstairs in the brewdock, you might get 3/4G alright.

personally im putting my efforts into getting the students, class content and everything else sorted.

If someone wants to run the course in 'parallel' in Galway / belfast / cork or anywhere else - we can let them know what beers we are tasting and pass on materials.

we can team up to the mock exam and the real exam, but I'd imagine you'd need 8 or 10 to make it viable - thats very do-able

I'm not against streaming, im just not in a position to do it.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: helmet on July 09, 2016, 12:49:07 PM

Fair enough, plenty to get organised as it is. Well done by the way, looking forward to it!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 09, 2016, 04:52:14 PM

Should be a blast !

The Classes last year were

American Ales
British Ales
Belgian Beers
German Beers
Light beers
and Off Flavours
and we had a day out to Brens

If memory serves.

Its impossible to cover all the styles, but picking a theme and doing a few styles from that seems to work reasonably well.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mr hoppy on July 10, 2016, 12:13:35 AM

Quote from: Partridge9 on July 09, 2016, 12:38:25 PM
I'm not against streaming, im just not in a position to do it.

...which is genuinely fair enough, but frustrating for those of us who might be able to tag along if based in dublin but don't have the time, resources or numbers to recreate elsewhere.

On a more positive note what about an open brewneversity version, where people might get scripts / recordings for personal study?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: johnrm on July 10, 2016, 09:51:59 AM

All it takes is a self starter to replicate the course at another location.
Right now there are 3 Cork-ites on the list. Would you run a Cork leg? Could we get more bodies?

Title: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mr hoppy on July 10, 2016, 10:34:14 AM

I think I'd need to successfully complete the course and exam before running the course.

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on July 10, 2016, 12:47:59 PM

Quote from: Partridge9 on June 29, 2016, 08:09:20 AM
Folks

If you are interested in the course - please select which classes you can attend, the 6 most popular dates will be chosen

I'll talk to andrew about the off tasting, but that might be the date with which is most popular, as its very important.

Anyways - if you are interested, please complete the poll (first post updated as well)

Our class size is limited to about 16. The class price will probably be about 13 euro

Thanks

James

Poll Located here ! (http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6)

Lot more folks on that list than the poll?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: aweisse on July 10, 2016, 01:57:59 PM

Why not have 3 lists (Cork , Dublin, Galway) to see what interest there is. Ide go.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 10, 2016, 03:16:00 PM

No worries -

Anyways - my primary concern is to nail down the dates, and co-ordinate the speakers / helpers ASAP. Clock is ticking and all that.

we have about 2 spots left - fill out the doodle if you are interested we will try to nail down the class dates this week.

http://doodle.com/poll/5dc5tnw3zzyy5sa6

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 15, 2016, 09:32:46 PM

Folks

We are all full now, thanks for updating the poll, - lots of interest.

We will announce the venue and the classes next week. The first class looking like the 6th August.

The good news is- we may have the BrewDock sorted, thanks to Andrew and Rossa for all the work

We just need to make sure we can get it open in time and get the beer delivered there...
There is also a conflict with the capital competition, as they say - it could be a opportunity

I'll post the class dates and venue next week, once thats posted - I'll contact all the poll participants via email and we need people to pay and commit ASAP.

The class cost is looking like 15 euro per class. There is a lot of stuff the tutors are organising in the background - suffice to say - you will get EXCELLENT value on your class fees.

James

PS - If you didnt get a chance to participate in the poll - maybe you were away on hols - please PM asap.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on July 15, 2016, 09:58:28 PM

Is that a members price James seems like great value beer

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on July 15, 2016, 10:42:16 PM

For what you get on the day, it's a great price. Fond memories from last year.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 15, 2016, 11:41:41 PM

Yeap - members, not that its members only, but it appears all the people replying are members.

Its great value after all ;)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Flanagan on July 17, 2016, 05:48:23 PM

Hi, I filled in the doodle a couple of weeks ago but I am just adding my name to the thread list so I'm not missed from any messages/emails. Sorry if this causes any hassle. Let me know if there's any problem.

1. Partridge9
2. pob (help out on a few days)
3. Frequent Sequence
4. passaia
5. Molc (can help out where needed)
6. JamesDavin
7. Helmet
8. neoanto
9. danger_zone
10. IrishBeersnob
11. Will_D (unless I score "Grand Vizzier Rank" in last years exam!)
12. GlasBrewInc
13. Tommy
14. oreils87
15. Fergal
16. BrewCity
17. Andrew- very happy to carry on doing the off-flavours and sensory sessions if you want me...
18. 5minfinney
19. Samael
20. Simon
21. Hingo
22. Johnnycheech - Interested in retaking exam if possible??
23. DCBrewing
24. Maja
25. Ciaran - Exam only
26. Saruman - Exam only
27. Jacob
28. Pheeel
29. Dunkel - off flavours only, maybe retaking exam too
30. JawaLemon
31. ac13
32. Skittlebrau
33. SketchyBrewers
34. johnrm
35. Flanagan

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 18, 2016, 10:13:10 PM

Folks we are down to 7 days now ..

06 August
13 August
20 August
10 Sept
17 Sept
24 Sept
01 Oct

We will eliminate one tomorrow and then contact everyone who filled out the doodle.

I have an

Adam
Dan Whelan
Daithi

Who have filled the doodle but I dont know who they are -

The details required are - name, forum name and email address - PM or email to

BJCP@nationalhomebrewclub.ie

more tomorrow

James

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 19, 2016, 08:54:21 PM

Folks - still awaiting update on BrewDock - Really want to get the particulars nailed down this week.

I'll update when I have one. I appreciate people need to know times and venue before parting with euro dollars.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Samael on July 20, 2016, 04:25:09 PM

Email sent, thanks and regards :)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: pyro7046 on July 22, 2016, 01:11:19 PM

Hey,

I'm Dan whelan, Still interested and just sent my details onto the that email address.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 23, 2016, 01:38:32 PM

Thanks Dan!

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Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: oreils87 on July 24, 2016, 10:17:46 AM

I filled in the questionnaire but didn't receive an email, Should I have?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Frequent Sequence on July 24, 2016, 12:40:16 PM

Quote from: oreils87 on July 24, 2016, 10:17:46 AM
I filled in the questionnaire but didn't receive an email, Should I have?

same here.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 25, 2016, 10:25:07 PM

Sorry folks I was away for the weekend

Just banging out an email now.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 25, 2016, 11:25:38 PM

Folks email gone out -

Almost there - the final 6 dates are ..

August 6th, 13th, 20th, September 17th, 24th, and Final Class on the 1st October.

If you didnt get an email - perhaps I have your details incorrect - please email your NAME / FORUM NAME and EMAIL to BJCP@nationalhomebrewclub.ie

Great response- should be a pretty special course.

There are rumours of some rare, interesting beers as well !! ;)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Andrew on July 27, 2016, 10:58:57 AM

new flavours in the sensory session too- Gerianol and Geosmin!!!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on July 27, 2016, 11:38:00 AM

I had that once it cleared up with a cream no problems
I know geraniol can attract honey bees as it is produced in scent glands to help them mark hive entrances.
Whats the other one?
Edit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosmin
smell after a rainstorm, love that smell...interesting

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on July 27, 2016, 11:14:26 PM

Folks,

some good news, we have secured the upstairs in the BrewDock for the BJCP course this year and we are now in a position to start registration for the course.

The start time is 11am on a Saturday and the 6 classes will run on

August 6th, August 13th, August 20th a break and then September 17th, September 24th, October 1st

You should have received an email - like this post - with a link to the spreadsheet. If you did not simply email bjcp@nationalhomebrewclub.ie ASAP and we will sort ya.

To register for this course – you must pay in full for the classes that you are going to attend. The classes must be paid for in advance, this ensures we buy the correct volume of beer and other resources. Once you have paid, dont forget to update the sheet in the email.

A new thing this year.. You will get notified a week before the class with a beer to get, you need to judge it, fill out a sheet and bring the scoresheet to the class.
This will help you to gauge how you are coming along and hopefully improve your judging ability.

Best of Luck

NHC BJCP Team !

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Pheeel on July 28, 2016, 12:39:15 PM

Quote from: Partridge9 on July 27, 2016, 11:14:26 PM
A new thing this year.. You will get notified a week before the class with a beer to get, you need to judge it, fill out a sheet and bring the scoresheet to the class.

Are these going to be easy enough to get?

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Leann ull on July 28, 2016, 12:42:13 PM

Bud and Heino are become harder and harder to find, for discretion ask for a brown paper bag when leaving the offie tho :P

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on July 28, 2016, 01:31:13 PM

Yeah they should be common examples of a style. Something like Sierra Nevada for example, or one of the english beers in tesco. Even some of the belgian beers are sold in Supervalu around the country now.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Pheeel on July 28, 2016, 02:30:47 PM

Okay cool. McHugh's is a bit out of my way :)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: danger_zone on August 01, 2016, 01:05:59 PM

I'm going to have to pull out of this unfortunately. All the best with it guys

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on August 01, 2016, 01:25:04 PM

No worries - thanks for letting us know

First class is next saturday - homework beer is OHara Pale Ale

If anyone has a Pale Ale homebrew, please PM, we are going to try to judge at least one homebrew per session.

Hopefully everyone got the email - if you didnt please PM and I'll get you on the list.

James

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Partridge9 on August 03, 2016, 07:42:06 PM

Ok folks

we have most paid up now - looks like we have some crackers for the weekend.

We have been onto the drinkstore and they are going to source some beers that are normally outside their catelogue, so we should have a very interesting selection everyweek.

If you are on the fence or havent paid - or paid via bank, please PM if you didnt get an email today.

We are ordering tomorrow for the first class.

We are going to try to get a list of all the homework beers for the course, so people can get them at once and score them over the weeks.

Start time is 11:00, finish 12:30, 13:00 at the latest - as it will start getting noisy !

I am pretty sure we have the 'burger and pint' deal for a tenner, afterwards, for those not in a rush away.

Should be a blast

BJCP Team

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: beerfly on August 23, 2016, 04:28:08 PM

if anyone is free to steward ipa comp on Sat put your name down here. you will get a point for it.
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,15792.msg155148.html#msg155148 (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,15792.msg155148.html#msg155148)

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Padraic on November 04, 2016, 09:56:00 PM

Is there any chance someone could send me a list of the beers tasted during the course. I need to do some cramming!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on November 07, 2016, 08:41:49 AM

There was a list compiled by Partridge9 as we went, but he's away at the moment. When he gets back he might be able to dig it out.
Otherwise check out the style guidelines. They have very good suggestions for most of the styles.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Padraic on November 07, 2016, 09:16:34 PM

Thanks molc!

Hopefully P9 will sort me out with a list when he gets back but I'll have a look at the guidelines first!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Will_D on November 07, 2016, 09:49:45 PM

Hi Padraic,

Welcome back to the mad house.

Surely people who have attended the sessions and follow this thread can answer your questions?

It can't all be left on James' shoulders!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on November 07, 2016, 10:06:59 PM

Actually pm me your email address and I can forward some of the info I have in my mails.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Padraic on November 08, 2016, 04:58:36 AM

Thanks Will it's good to see the familiar faces!

Thanks molc, just sent you a pm!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on November 08, 2016, 10:04:13 AM

Quote from: Padraic on November 08, 2016, 04:58:36 AM
Thanks Will it's good to see the familiar faces!

Thanks molc, just sent you a pm!

Sent you what I have. Should sort you out. Sorry for a mail bomb! :D

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mick02 on December 05, 2016, 03:48:19 PM

Hey, is there a 2017 BJCP Course planned? I'd like to get involved but was a bit too late to jump on this one.

Thanks,

Mick

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: Pheeel on December 05, 2016, 10:36:29 PM

Quote from: mick02 on December 05, 2016, 03:48:19 PM
Hey, is there a 2017 BJCP Course planned? I'd like to get involved but was a bit too late to jump on this one.

Thanks,

Mick

I think the plan is to but obviously there's a lot to organize!

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: mick02 on December 06, 2016, 11:21:55 PM

Quote from: Pheeel on December 05, 2016, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: mick02 on December 05, 2016, 03:48:19 PM
Hey, is there a 2017 BJCP Course planned? I'd like to get involved but was a bit too late to jump on this one.

Thanks,

Mick

I think the plan is to but obviously there's a lot to organize!

Understood. I appreciate the effort and commitment of all involved in organising competitions, group buys and education events. It's a thankless task for sure. If there is anything I can do to help I'll do.

Title: Re: NHC BJCP course 2016
Post by: molc on December 07, 2016, 08:30:55 AM

Normally it's announced over the summer, with the aim of a December time for the exam. It's hard to get the exam spot as well, so there's a lot of toing and froing to get things sorted.

National Homebrew Club Ireland

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