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Another Brewcon goodie to be used, not so much of a shootout but more to see flavour profile from what is essentially an ale yeast and in spite of all the talk about MJ yeasts I've never used them as normally a liquid man myself.

Recent discussions about not pitching into anything above 1050 (my bloody lager OG ended up at 1058 because of that Hook Head lager Malt) the volume was sub 20L and I gave it the best possible start oxygenating the wort and then pitching rehydrated yeast something I don't normally do.
Set at 18 Degrees (18-20 rec) as I want a long  slower ferment 12 Hours in big krausen now and bubbling away nicely.

Taste test in 2 or 3 weeks time, but initial look and smell is good.

I really like m54, it is very clean. Beer is hazy but a cold crash and gelatine will sort it out.  I have used on 21 at 1056 and it finished out in 7 days as far as I can remember.
Be interested to see what you think.

The MJ looks like its nearly finished after 5 days, the 830 wil be another 2 1/2 months ;D

Hiya,

Toying with the idea of using M54 on an APA, would you foresee any issues?

Not sure how good it would be for a competition beer as I would probably finish very clean?. Don't really know tbh as first time using it but its definitely top fermenting. I'll update next week when shes finished fermenting and I've crash cooled.

AROMA CHARACTERISTICS:
California lager yeast produces a clean lager aroma without the associated sulphur this yeast is perfect for most kinds of lager.
FLAVOR/MOUTHFEEL CHARACTERISTICS:
California lager yeast produces clean and crisp lagers, this yeast is excellent for
producing anything from a hoppy pilsner to a helles allowing excellent malt and hop
character to be expressed.

CH on my last few brews with m54 the krausen formed an elastic character.  I would recommend that you skim this off a day or so before you rack it.

I normally crash then "fine" and the take from the middle leaving at least 2 inches on top and bottom which easily fills a keg.
Especially with this guy as it's going to be aged in steel a couple of months and I don't want anything coming across. What I will say was there was a full 3 degrees from exothermic fermentation at top of the vessel 19.9, vs my set and I had to drop.

Bloody Hell 5 Days and shes done, candidate yeast for "Boy Racer" beer ???
Definitely approaching a bock variant at 6.6%!
Crash cool and gelatin next couple of days, I'll do a before and after pic.

What kind of gelatin do you usually use?

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,16112.0.html

Ok here she is

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Very clean and easy drinking but definitely not a pilsner as it has a slightly malty "rich tea" ale profile and ticks every blonde ale bjcp box.
I asked the expert and she said it tastes like "beer"
She will regularly drink my pilsners but this one was too "beery" for her.

I think the conclusion is if I was looking for a quick clean easy drinking blonde ale this yeast is ideal, also in its favour is speed of fermentation.

I'll post about its Pilsner brother in 3 months time

Hi Ch
How long from brew day to glass?

It's force carbed with a carbonation cap but 10 days, includes 3 days gelatin treatment
I could brew this beer in 5 days, it's still a little green and unbalanced and tastes like some commercial blonde Irish ales I've had and in another 4 weeks conditioning in a keg it will be so much better.

Czech pils to me isn't all that crisp (German lager is though) and has a touch  of that rich tea that you mention so if I had that a Czech pils I'd probably really like it.

Very hard to put a full descriptive on what I tasted but Czech pils to me definitely has a  mix of hops and malt on the nose but there is more balance through the taste and have no malty lingering profile on the end, this is definitely more malt based on the finish and why I believe it's in the Blonde Ale direction.
I'll have to send in a bottle to the BJCP judges

Drinking an m54 pale ale now, nice clean beer, but not a pale ale, reminds me of a hoppy kolsh I made once, but more neutral, it's definetly not a lager, and not quite a pilsner, but definitely a go to yeast if you were making a beer for pals who drink Macro, pleasant is the best word I can think to describe it!

I made an ale/lager yesterday with M54. I thought I had a packet of S05 but all I had to hand was M54. So in she went to a pale ale malt bill and a load of wet cascade hops. First time using the M54 and wet hops so I'm very interested to see how this turns out, it'll certainly be different to my usual pale ales.

I have to say I'm not a fan of MJ yeasts. They always start slow or stall on me for some reason.

Quote from: CH on August 28, 2016, 03:49:24 PM
It's force carbed with a carbonation cap but 10 days, includes 3 days gelatin treatment
I could brew this beer in 5 days, it's still a little green and unbalanced and tastes like some commercial blonde Irish ales I've had and in another 4 weeks conditioning in a keg it will be so much better.

Impressive turn around time, nice work!

Let us know how the beer turns out, I wont use it again for a pale, if it wasn't for the dry hop, I don't think anything would have come though, that said I fermented in the heat wave, so guessing 20's all the way, so probably shouldn't damn the yeast as it was used above recommended conditions.

I just gave it away for a 40th tonight served through a chiller and was just leaving as guests arrived, they were hacking into it
"Are you sure it's Homebrew?"

Quote from: CH on September 24, 2016, 07:39:30 PM
I just gave it away for a 40th tonight served through a chiller and was just leaving as guests arrived, they were hacking into it

I lurve the confidence in your product! Trying to leg-it just before the punters arrive or am I missing something? ?

Only joking "BigFellaWhoWalksonWater"

Just had a check on the lads to see how they're doing around 40 hours post pitching. First thing I noticed when I opened the ferm fridge was a considerable bang of sulphur, anyone else get this from M54?

There is a decent krausen, about an inch high, and there is good activity in the vessel, with the bubbler chugging away happily. I have the temp set at 19C.

Range is 18-20 so I always start low at 18 and after 4-5 days go higher say 19.5 to finish off. Didn't notice sulphur tbh.

I have used this 4 times now and never got a smell of sulphur