National Homebrew Club Ireland

Good even,

I recently had a discussion with the guy (Bruno) that organised the Portuguese Nationals. At present there is only 2 qualified BJCP judges in the whole of Portugal.

For this  years competition it was hoped that all categories would be BJCP judged. That's where you come in.

If you're BJCP qualified and interested in judging in the Portuguese nationals please either reply to this message or send me a PM. The real goal here is to get the Portuguese nationals judged to a BJCP standard so the the home brewers get some proper scoring and feedback.

The competition will be held in October 2017

Let me.know if you're interested.
Mick

I've never been to Portugal, if I can get cheap flights etc. I might be interested.

Keep me informed!

Quote from: Padraic on February 12, 2017, 09:00:12 AM
I've never been to Portugal, if I can get cheap flights etc. I might be interested.

Keep me informed!

Nice one, thanks Padraic. I'll be in touch.

Where in Portugal? Any costs covered?

This year I think there is a plan to do three legs, one in Porto, one in Lisbon and one down South (Algarve or similar) there has been no concrete plans yet though. As for costs, like the Irish competition, this is run by volunteers so no costs will be covered

Quote from: mick02 on February 12, 2017, 10:34:30 AM
This year I think there is a plan to do three legs, one in Porto, one in Lisbon and one down South (Algarve or similar) there has been no concrete plans yet though. As for costs, like the Irish competition, this is run by volunteers so no costs will be covered

Yeah fair enough but we ain't requesting judges from abroad.
Other amateur organizations offer people a bed or something at least in one of the members houses.

I just think its a hell of a lot of expect anyone to do.

If you don't want to do it then fine. Some people have already expressed an interest and are willing to travel at their own expense. By the way this will happen with or without help from Irish bjcp judges.


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Quote from: DCBrewing on February 12, 2017, 03:17:34 PM
Yeah fair enough but we ain't requesting judges from abroad.

I got a request from a London club & I know Ali has asked for irish judges for one in the Bristol area.

With a restricted BJCP exam spaces in Europe, we are probably on a lot of countries wish lists.

There would rarely be any costs covered in any of these (they are all usually voluntary organisations, so maybe a bit of food & beers).

I think it's as much a polite request & if anyone is able to do it (somebody might be able to tie it in with preexisting travel) it's a bonus for them.

On the plus side fair fecks to organisers of the course and the judges to enable the NHC to have a large number of BJCP judges and ongoing education program.
Have we got the highest for any EU country?

Quote from: CH on February 12, 2017, 06:05:44 PM
On the plus side fair fecks to organisers of the course and the judges to enable the NHC to have a large number of BJCP judges and ongoing education program.
Have we got the highest for any EU country?

Yeah I was really impressed by the amount of BJCP certified (or waiting certification) Judges that are registered for the nationals. No mean feat.

Quote from: pob on February 12, 2017, 04:52:22 PM

Quote from: DCBrewing on February 12, 2017, 03:17:34 PM
Yeah fair enough but we ain't requesting judges from abroad.

I got a request from a London club & I know Ali has asked for irish judges for one in the Bristol area.

With a restricted BJCP exam spaces in Europe, we are probably on a lot of countries wish lists.

There would rarely be any costs covered in any of these (they are all usually voluntary organisations, so maybe a bit of food & beers).

I think it's as much a polite request & if anyone is able to do it (somebody might be able to tie it in with preexisting travel) it's a bonus for them.

Oh i know it was a polite request but its asking a lot and i think you're a lunatic to actual go out of pocket so much to do it

No more I guess than asking organisers to give up their Saturdays to organise beer venues and train judges
Might be a bit of fun as a group.
I'm sure whoever was hosting would provide a bed and a meal if you needed it.

Is the competition being run in English? Will the scoresheets be filled out in English or Portuguese?

Quote from: DoubleG on February 13, 2017, 10:09:55 AM
Is the competition being run in English? Will the scoresheets be filled out in English or Portuguese?

I asked this same question and the answer was "English is fine" most of the younger generation in Portugal have very very good English, both written and spoken so all scoresheets can be written in English.

Can you forward the contact details of Bruno to me? London Amateur Brewers have been training up a lot of BJCP judges, and some may be willing to travel then.

I mentioned it to the missus and she said yes. Guess I'll be paying for 2 tickets  ???

Quote from: Pheeel on February 13, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
I mentioned it to the missus and she said yes. Guess I'll be paying for 2 tickets  ???

Ha ha ha! Very good! Any excuse to travel!

Folks, for anyone interested in this Bruno said that you can contract him directly for information or to register your interest.

His name is Bruno Aquino and his email address is cervejasdomundo [at] gmail.com

Impossible to commit without some detail.
I emailed Bruno.

As this is a BJCP event, run by homebrewers with limited resources, in a country I would love to visit (Port Wine??) may I suggest that we, the, NHC sponsor our judges who go to the tune of say €50 each or whatever.

I think we can afford it and the feed back /kudos would be epic.

I would really love to go but at the moment that is impossible.

Will they score sheets be in Portuguese

Quote from: Will_D on February 15, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
As this is a BJCP event, run by homebrewers with limited resources, in a country I would love to visit (Port Wine??) may I suggest that we, the, NHC sponsor our judges who go to the tune of say €50 each or whatever.

I think we can afford it and the feed back /kudos would be epic.

I would really love to go but at the moment that is impossible.

I am hoping that I will make it to the competition.

Just to note that this competition is organised solely by Bruno. He gets some support from local breweries and bars but most of it is down to him and him alone.

The Portuguese Craft beer scene is still in it's infancy. Last year there was only 1 BCJP judged category and that was Double IPA. There were two other categories namely Ales and Lagers. There were no sub categories (as far as I'm aware)

Speaking to Bruno earlier this month he said that he was hoping to split the competition into three legs. One leg in Northern Portugal (most likely Porto), one leg in Central Portugal (Lisbon) and one leg in Southern Portugal (Faro or Algarve somewhere)

As he is organizing this by himself and also that the competition is not expected to take place until October there may be some radio silence from Bruno as he works through the semantics. He is however very keen to get some judges from Ireland to take part. He is even encouraging any interested Irish brewers to submit entries to the competition.

He is aware of this thread so may even register and answer some of the questions himself. In the meantime I will try to answer anything that comes up.

Quote from: DEMPSEY on February 15, 2017, 11:49:23 AM
Will they score sheets be in Portuguese

See Reply #13 in this thread  ;)

Do you know if he has contacted Bruce, ex South Dublin, who is now living in Portugal (Lisbon?)

Quote from: Will_D on February 15, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
As this is a BJCP event, run by homebrewers with limited resources, in a country I would love to visit (Port Wine??) may I suggest that we, the, NHC sponsor our judges who go to the tune of say €50 each or whatever.

+1

I think that would be a worthwhile expense.

Quote from: pob on February 15, 2017, 12:56:00 PM
Do you know if he has contacted Bruce, ex South Dublin, who is now living in Portugal (Lisbon?)

Unless Bruce is active in the local scene I'm sure they have not been in touch (well Bruce's name never came up)

Quote from: pob on February 15, 2017, 12:57:45 PM

Quote from: Will_D on February 15, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
As this is a BJCP event, run by homebrewers with limited resources, in a country I would love to visit (Port Wine??) may I suggest that we, the, NHC sponsor our judges who go to the tune of say €50 each or whatever.

+1

I think that would be a worthwhile expense.

That's actually not a bad idea. In fact, I wonder if the BJCP would give anything to an event of that kind, as it's very much part of their mission...

I like the idea as well although I would only worry that we might open the floodgates a little. There's BJCP competitions springing up all over Europe now so the club could be out a lot of cash if we start subsidising heaps of people to go abroad. As always though, a bit of discussion on the subject is a good idea.

Flights to Portugal are normally quite cheap with Ryanair, especially around October. Depending on the dates there's a chance I could go and would probably be able to accommodate a few people (the mrs' parents have an apartment outside Faro).

Quote from: irish_goat on February 15, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
I like the idea as well although I would only worry that we might open the floodgates a little. There's BJCP competitions springing up all over Europe now so the club could be out a lot of cash if we start subsidising heaps of people to go abroad. As always though, a bit of discussion on the subject is a good idea.

Flights to Portugal are normally quite cheap with Ryanair, especially around October. Depending on the dates there's a chance I could go and would probably be able to accommodate a few people (the mrs' parents have an apartment outside Faro).

Yeah I would agree with the concern, our funds should go towards our own competitions and if we needed to subsidise judges to travel to our events or speakers and such.

Better grab this while we can...
http://clubehomebrewnacional.pt

Quote from: DCBrewing on February 15, 2017, 05:13:19 PM

Quote from: irish_goat on February 15, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
I like the idea as well although I would only worry that we might open the floodgates a little. There's BJCP competitions springing up all over Europe now so the club could be out a lot of cash if we start subsidising heaps of people to go abroad. As always though, a bit of discussion on the subject is a good idea.

Flights to Portugal are normally quite cheap with Ryanair, especially around October. Depending on the dates there's a chance I could go and would probably be able to accommodate a few people (the mrs' parents have an apartment outside Faro).

Yeah I would agree with the concern, our funds should go towards our own competitions and if we needed to subsidise judges to travel to our events or speakers and such.

My sentiments exactly. If we are providing financial support to judges then it should start at home before abroad. Maybe a club T-shirt for travellers might be appropriate if they are representing the club?

I'd be interested, but I would need more details (a more concrete date and location).

I'm the same as Andrew


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I be interested in this

Off-topic but heading to Portugal this summer so would really appreciate some Homebrew/beer contacts, if possible!

Quote from: sub82 on February 21, 2017, 08:30:41 AM
Off-topic but heading to Portugal this summer so would really appreciate some Homebrew/beer contacts, if possible!

Where are you heading to in Portugal? I'll be there for 10 weeks from mid-June to mid-August. I can show you the sites.

Mick

Reply form Bruno...

Hi John,

Thanks for your interest in the portuguese beer competition.
This year it will be held in three different cities: Lisboa, Porto and Coimbra. It'll be the 5th edition and we're expecting to have around 100 beers, divided into three categories: Lager, Ale and a featured style.

We are still in talks about the dates but i expect something around late October, beggining of November.

If you have any more questions or need further information, please feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Bruno Aquino

Wow, 100 entries - people aren't kidding when they say the Irish comp is actually pretty big!

Quote from: johnrm on February 21, 2017, 02:17:15 PM
Reply form Bruno...

Hi John,

Thanks for your interest in the portuguese beer competition.
This year it will be held in three different cities: Lisboa, Porto and Coimbra. It'll be the 5th edition and we're expecting to have around 100 beers, divided into three categories: Lager, Ale and a featured style.

We are still in talks about the dates but i expect something around late October, beggining of November.

If you have any more questions or need further information, please feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Bruno Aquino

This was the format of the competition in October too. They had ales, lagers and DIPA as the featured style. The featured style was the only BJCP judged category if I recall correctly.

Quote from: molc on February 21, 2017, 02:23:18 PM
Wow, 100 entries - people aren't kidding when they say the Irish comp is actually pretty big!

Yeah it shows what a great achievement it is for our club to be able to run such a comprehensive competition. Someone mentioned recently that it is the largest home brew competition in Europe.

Quote from: mick02 on February 21, 2017, 10:30:20 AM

Quote from: sub82 on February 21, 2017, 08:30:41 AM
Off-topic but heading to Portugal this summer so would really appreciate some Homebrew/beer contacts, if possible!

Where are you heading to in Portugal? I'll be there for 10 weeks from mid-June to mid-August. I can show you the sites.

Mick

Sounds good - just PMed!

The real question is will I get my sweet sweet judging points?

Once is registered I think yes

Morning all,

I've been chatting to Bruno and the dates are set for this competition. It is being held over three different dates and three different venues.

Only the Porto leg will be registered for BJCP.

If you are interested please let me know and I will pass on your details to Bruno.

See if anyone is interested in some of these panels (only the Porto leg will be BJCP!):

28 October - Hamburgueria B&B (Portimão, Algarve) - category: Lager.
30th & 31st October - Cerveteca (Lisbon) - category: Ale
4th November - Catraio (Porto) - category: British Brown Ale

***Edit - Competition website here (still under construction) - http://www.cerveja-magazine.pt/concnacionalcerv17/