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Brewing Discussions => Equipment & Chemicals => Topic started by: admin on September 03, 2013, 09:33:08 PM

Title: Kegertroller build
Post by: admin on September 03, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Just need to wire it all up
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Will_D on September 03, 2013, 09:53:09 PM
Looks loverly but WTFII?
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: matthewdick23 on September 03, 2013, 10:17:31 PM
ur a dork


and im jealous

or envious?
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Metattron on September 03, 2013, 11:11:12 PM
What type of flow metres do you have? Still trying to decide between flow metres and scales for my kegbot.   8)
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:28:41 AM
Nice job. My programmer friend was telling me I should be running everything off an arduino instead of building a pid system like electric brewery. What do ye reckon?
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:48:15 AM
St.Fursey has already ordered all the parts for our electric brewery style build afaik. Il let my mate build his arduino brewery first  8)
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: Il Tubo on September 03, 2013, 11:12:20 PM
Ebay jobbies, and there's not 100% satisfactory. If you want less pain and mo money, go for scales.

What are the issues with the flow meters? Any links to the ones you got? Looking forward to seeing pics of it up & running.
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2013, 10:09:37 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:28:41 AM
Nice job. My programmer friend was telling me I should be running everything off an arduino instead of building a pid system like electric brewery. What do ye reckon?
did he have drink taken when he made the offer/suggestion. Last time I fell for "I can do that no problem" was a few years ago and I am still waiting ::)
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: St. Fursey on September 04, 2013, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:48:15 AM
St.Fursey has already ordered all the parts for our electric brewery style build afaik. Il let my mate build his arduino brewery first  8)
The order hasn't gone in yet! If someone I  offering  to develop an arduino system I'm all ears

Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Will_D on September 04, 2013, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: Il Tubo on September 03, 2013, 10:03:31 PM
It's a replacement for the WillHi 7016 in my kegerator, and then some!

Arduino Mega 1280
5V 2A PSU
3 buttons
20 x 4 display
Dallas battery backed clock
3 flow meters
DS18B20 temperature sensor

It will display something like this, to show me what's on tap, how much has passed through the flow meters, the current kegerator temp, the desired temp, and the time and power mode*

1 BX Ale 7%    16.7L
2 Kolsch 4.3%   8.1L
3 Cider 6%      0.0L
6.1°C 4.0°C 21:00 A


* Two power modes: A = alcholic = chilled beer 24/7 and M = miser = fridge only comes on at set times, like 6pm to midnight, to save electricity.
This sounds the Buisness all right.

I need to get on with  my pasturising controller and then the lager fridge time/temp profiler!
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 11:09:34 AM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2013, 10:09:37 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:28:41 AM
Nice job. My programmer friend was telling me I should be running everything off an arduino instead of building a pid system like electric brewery. What do ye reckon?
did he have drink taken when he made the offer/suggestion. Last time I fell for "I can do that no problem" was a few years ago and I am still waiting ::)

No drink taken. He brews also (did his first AG last weekend) & is very into the tech side of it. Il ask him after work if he's serious about it. Hold off on the order so St.Fursey.
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: christhebrewer on September 04, 2013, 12:38:33 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Water-flow-sensor-flowmeter-Hall-flow-sensor-Water-control-1-30L-min-2-0MPa-/200910300858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec72fe6ba

Is this the flow meter?
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Metattron on September 04, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
I had a look around for sensors for the scales and they are more expensive, but then I saw this:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/8328021.htm

going to pick one up this afternoon and dismantle it to see what can be done with it.  Plenty of stuff online about hacking scales with arduino so it will hopefully be a runner.
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2013, 08:35:07 PM
with these flow meters I presume you know what amount of beer you start with  :-\
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2013, 08:58:14 PM
Probably going to jinx this project but since it was already FUBAR here is some photo's of it with me modelling another under counter fridge into it
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
No insulation in it yet and I will fit a timber grill to the front where the radiator is shown. It will have 4 taps and the top is hinged using piano hinge so it opens like an old school desk.
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2013, 09:02:26 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on September 04, 2013, 08:59:37 PM
Very interesting, but you should feck off and get yer own thread! ;) :P
WOOO  :)
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
Quote from: St. Fursey on September 04, 2013, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on September 04, 2013, 09:48:15 AM
St.Fursey has already ordered all the parts for our electric brewery style build afaik. Il let my mate build his arduino brewery first  8)
The order hasn't gone in yet! If someone I  offering  to develop an arduino system I'm all ears

I spoke to him this eve. He is defo up for it.
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: Will_D on September 09, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on September 04, 2013, 08:39:05 PM
It's up to the person filling the kegs to observe how much came out of the fermenter!
How much has been drunk?

Easy: Marry a breath-a-lyser (aka: Wife)!

Misses D: Will, ye're pissed! How much of the kegs have ye drunk tonight?"

Me: (Lies through back teeth) 3 pints here 2 pints there". So off she goes to the blackboard and chalks up a few lines!

Two days later 19L kegs are empty after about 10 pints from each!

Moral: Don't count. Learn to feel the love and beer in a keg by weight!
Title: Re: Kegertroller build
Post by: brewerhooer on September 13, 2013, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on September 03, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Just need to wire it all up

@Il Tubo, very nicely done there, very professional looking!! I've built a PID controller and fermentation temperature controller and used a crappy plastic storage box and a lunch box and it did not turn out looking anywhere neat as good. I used a scalpel to cut through the plastic and it split and was a total nightmare.

Where did you get that box and how to you cut into it to mount stuff on the front?