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Title: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Bubbles on November 17, 2014, 01:26:51 PM

Hi folks.

Nothing planned as yet, but Rossa suggested I start a thread to gauge interest in doing another BJCP course and exam in 2015.

Take a look at what's involved here:
http://www.bjcp.org/study.php
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Study_Guide.pdf

Please register below if interested, indicating preferred location.

Cheers.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Bubbles on November 17, 2014, 01:27:13 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin

Title: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on November 17, 2014, 01:49:36 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on November 17, 2014, 02:12:29 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: phoenix on November 17, 2014, 02:27:42 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: DoubleG on November 17, 2014, 02:28:27 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Rossa on November 17, 2014, 04:47:36 PM

I know from talking to some of the guys who have done the course that they/we would help guide you if asked.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Jonnycheech on November 17, 2014, 05:04:56 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Boycott on November 17, 2014, 06:39:08 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech
7. DCBrewing, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Bubbles on November 17, 2014, 07:12:00 PM

Of course Rossa, thanks for that.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on November 17, 2014, 07:14:34 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: delzep on November 17, 2014, 08:10:50 PM

Any info on this? Cost? How long it takes? How many sessions approx? What happens if sessions are missed? Etc.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on November 17, 2014, 09:20:00 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Vermelho on November 17, 2014, 10:51:20 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Parky on November 18, 2014, 09:30:11 AM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on November 18, 2014, 10:48:59 AM

Quote from: delzep on November 17, 2014, 08:10:50 PM
Any info on this? Cost? How long it takes? How many sessions approx? What happens if sessions are missed? Etc.

Something like this... (All rough)

Decide the style and subcategory examples that are available/you want to cover.
Aiming for 3 categories or so per session means 7 sessions – Say 12 tasters per session.
Assuming all 500ml (some will differ) – 1 x 500ml should cover 4 persons.
Cost = E4 (average) per 500ml x 12 (per session) x 7 (sessions) / 4 persons = E84 ea.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: brewerhooer on November 18, 2014, 12:49:31 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: markc on November 20, 2014, 11:50:10 AM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Jonnycheech on November 20, 2014, 05:41:11 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on November 26, 2014, 10:09:41 PM

Now its early days yet but I suggest ye all read post #13 here:

(http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5670.msg71857.html#msg71857)

In the exam you are not judging beers! You are trying to match the proctors numbers!

Illogical I know but its the reality of statistics.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on November 27, 2014, 10:28:10 AM

Agreed but a fair bit of your score is calculated from how closely you match their scores (20% iirc)!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: cris23costa on December 03, 2014, 08:24:06 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on December 04, 2014, 08:51:31 AM

Quote from: johnrm on November 18, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: delzep on November 17, 2014, 08:10:50 PM
Any info on this? Cost? How long it takes? How many sessions approx? What happens if sessions are missed? Etc.

Something like this... (All rough)

Decide the style and subcategory examples that are available/you want to cover.
Aiming for 3 categories or so per session means 7 sessions – Say 12 tasters per session.
Assuming all 500ml (some will differ) – 1 x 500ml should cover 4 persons.
Cost = E4 (average) per 500ml x 12 (per session) x 7 (sessions) / 4 persons = E84 ea.

and dont forget the off tasting session ..

which is coming in at the 100 dollars with shipping from BJCP

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on December 04, 2014, 01:23:14 PM

Yes, that too, plus the 'Rape me please' tax from DHL for about E50 or so.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hop Bomb on December 04, 2014, 02:09:13 PM

Quote from: Partridge9 on December 04, 2014, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: johnrm on November 18, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: delzep on November 17, 2014, 08:10:50 PM
Any info on this? Cost? How long it takes? How many sessions approx? What happens if sessions are missed? Etc.

Something like this... (All rough)

Decide the style and subcategory examples that are available/you want to cover.
Aiming for 3 categories or so per session means 7 sessions – Say 12 tasters per session.
Assuming all 500ml (some will differ) – 1 x 500ml should cover 4 persons.
Cost = E4 (average) per 500ml x 12 (per session) x 7 (sessions) / 4 persons = E84 ea.

and dont forget the off tasting session ..

which is coming in at the 100 dollars with shipping from BJCP

Lets get two shipped together. We need one for the Galway bjcp nights. I can get them shipped to friends of mine in San Francisco & they can strip the package of customs stuff so we can avoid the charges.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Rossa on December 04, 2014, 03:18:03 PM

There is a company in Dublin that might do them. I'll have a poke around.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: N.Peterson on December 17, 2014, 02:16:28 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: markc on December 18, 2014, 01:36:26 PM

You dropped a few bodies when you cut and pasted there N.Peterson, I've updated the list below...

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: GlasbrewInc on January 05, 2015, 09:44:47 PM

Wouldn't be able for an exam but the education would be good

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on January 05, 2015, 09:49:45 PM

Anything happening with this list by the way? Interested in a bit of ould beer education :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: dosbrew on January 06, 2015, 05:25:15 AM

dosbrew, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Martin on January 10, 2015, 08:43:54 AM

Martin - Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: matthewdick23 on January 14, 2015, 06:38:27 PM

We'll do one up north too.But prob not until May at least, once Boundary is up and running.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: IrishBeerSnob on January 21, 2015, 01:50:45 PM

I'd be interested in this

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on February 07, 2015, 11:37:22 AM

Any news of this? :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Boycott on February 15, 2015, 04:04:28 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on February 15, 2015, 09:40:14 PM

To say I am surprised/nay Amazed/NAY NAY Totally effin surpised/ is the understaement of 2015!

Am I the only NHC BJCP judge that wants to up his level by resitting the tasting exam!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: beerfly on February 16, 2015, 02:19:34 PM

nope i'd like to up mine too

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on February 16, 2015, 06:56:38 PM

I'll go for it too.
My attendance will depend on when and where.

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Ozbrewer on February 16, 2015, 08:45:31 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Shane Phelan on March 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)

Looking to do the exam as I have to get above 70 to get to the next level. I have enough points but you need a combination of score in the exam and points to progress.

QuoteYour rank is determined by both your exam score and your experience points. A judge with any passing score and fewer than 5 experience points receives the rank of Recognized. Judges with a score of 70 or above on the exam and who have accumulated at least 5 experience points receive the Certified rank. A score of 80 or above combined with 20 experience points provides the rank of National. Judges achieve Master status by scoring 90 or better and acquiring 40 experience points. In all cases, at least half the experience points for a given rank must come from judging.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on March 09, 2015, 02:35:00 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on March 12, 2015, 01:24:47 PM

Hey guys

while we sort things out here, we should decide what frequency we want to keep.
If we aim to complete in time for the October exam, once a month is probably too low, but every week might be a little bit aggressive.

I've put a doodle up: http://doodle.com/msta5pp54avfpyri VOTE VOTE VOTE! :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hop Bomb on March 12, 2015, 08:11:38 PM

I'd like to mirror the Dublin course in Galway for anyone in the west lookin to take the exam.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Parky on March 13, 2015, 09:13:58 AM

Quotewhile we sort things out here, we should decide what frequency we want to keep.
If we aim to complete in time for the October exam, once a month is probably too low, but every week might be a little bit aggressive.

Sorry to be the one to ask the stupid question here ( :P), but what actually happens, and where? And why is frequency important?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on March 13, 2015, 12:35:25 PM

Quote from: Parky on March 13, 2015, 09:13:58 AM
Sorry to be the one to ask the stupid question here ( :P), but what actually happens, and where? And why is frequency important?

Valid question.

There are lots of beer styles.
23-ish categories averaging 3 sub cateories - 69 beers roughly
It takes 20 mins to get the most from any 1 beer. (and this depends entirely on the beer)

You could do it in a day but you'd be leaving in an ambulance.

Are you that dedicated? O0

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Parky on March 13, 2015, 02:26:18 PM

QuoteThere are lots of beer styles.
23-ish categories averaging 3 sub cateories - 69 beers roughly
It takes 20 mins to get the most from any 1 beer. (and this depends entirely on the beer)

Thanks johnrm!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: beerfly on March 13, 2015, 02:36:43 PM

it's all fun and games till you start hitting the eisbock's :D

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Damien M on March 13, 2015, 03:13:54 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on March 14, 2015, 11:48:00 AM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Tube
26. Damien M
27. Sandra M
28. Partridge

Excellent response to this ..

I believe the we have the venue and we have some volunteer speakers
I dont mind helping out with the administration and organisation.

I'll ping the various speakers to ensure they are still up for giving a class.

Great stuff - I think the competition helped with the interest as well.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on March 14, 2015, 11:50:03 AM

Quote from: Hop Bomb on March 12, 2015, 08:11:38 PM
I'd like to mirror the Dublin course in Galway for anyone in the west lookin to take the exam.

Thats a great idea - we can get the class notes to ya via PDF - just need to get to the pale for the exam (and maybe the off-tasting class)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: dosbrew on March 19, 2015, 12:35:57 AM

dosbrew Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on March 22, 2015, 09:14:20 PM

Just a quick update - we are putting the final pieces of the puzzle together and should have something on here real soon.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on March 22, 2015, 10:11:18 PM

Pop it on a common Google Drive for all the people doing the training maybe? Could help.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Cahalbrua on March 25, 2015, 07:54:45 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hingo on March 26, 2015, 09:35:05 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on March 29, 2015, 08:14:24 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on March 29, 2015, 09:09:37 PM

Only 30 spaces?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Simon_ on March 29, 2015, 09:14:38 PM

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on March 29, 2015, 09:23:13 PM

Never mind thanks .S

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on March 29, 2015, 09:48:12 PM

Whats going on here??

Where is the mention of 30 places and why did a list get truncated??

[re. post # 59] : Why was Shane, Dublin, Entry 31 deleted? By whom? Was it Tube?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on March 29, 2015, 09:58:35 PM

Number 25 waqs always you Tube!

So who is ShaneK with about 35 posts and the latest comment "never mind thanks"

WTF is going on?

This list is getting out of control!

It was a big enough task to organise the first BJCP training sessions (just ask Padraic) with about 16 people attending a tasting day. Can we really manage 30+ ?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on April 01, 2015, 01:00:14 PM

Yoink

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on April 01, 2015, 01:05:51 PM

@Saruman, you just yoinked Shane from the list.
Was that intentional?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on April 01, 2015, 01:07:29 PM

Yes, unless I misunderstood, he said he was out.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hop Bomb on April 01, 2015, 02:04:18 PM

Is the exam limited to x no of people? Or just the study group?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on April 01, 2015, 02:58:48 PM

Quote from: Saruman on April 01, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Yes, unless I misunderstood, he said he was out.

I understand that was anther Shane... Shane took himself out a few days ago...

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on April 01, 2015, 03:03:57 PM

Hmm.. Then just in case:
This strikes me as something better suited to a google sheets doc anyway.

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on April 01, 2015, 03:30:08 PM

In Google Docs 100 people can make a balls of it.
I've cleaned up the sequence so that it matches the original requests.

So, this is one helluva interest list.
Who is organising?

There are 2 pieces
Tasting - at however many venues
Exam - in one venue more than likely in The Pale

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hop Bomb on April 01, 2015, 03:43:28 PM

Id like to run the tasting/study group in Galway. But if the limit is already reached for the exam only part then there isnt much point. Id like to re-sit my exam this year also.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on April 02, 2015, 03:41:39 PM

I'm on that - Basically where we are ..

We are organising 6 sessions over the summer - roughly one every two weeks with a gap here and there

We wont taste every style, but target a few and concentrate on getting good scoresheets filled out.
There will be an exam tasting at the end of each class, in which will use exam scoresheets and conditions.

Roughly starting end of may - rolling to end of august.

These sessions will start with an off-tasting. Then there will be 5 sessions where 6 beers are evaluated per session.

We are going to pick 8 weekends and two will be voted out by the majority.

Depending on numbers we might run an additional off-tasting at the end for those who dont make the first one.

The price per session is roughly 15 euro for members and 18 euro for non-members.

This will cover the price of the beer/ tasting kits.
You dont need to attend every session, you pay for what you can attend, but the off-tasting is strongly advisable.

There is an additional price for the exam - but for the moment we are just going to take a deposit from the people going on the course. People on the course are guarenteed a seat for the exam.

BJCP in the UK have kindly offered to assist with the proctoring of the exam.

We are currently targetting mid to the end of september.

The current Venue is The Black Sheep. We have teachers for 5 of the 6 classes

I will confirm prices and get a date list going once I have spoken to all the helpers and people giving the classes.

Also - I will liase with The HopBomb and JohnRM for Cork and Galway - see if we can get the same classes run roughly the same all over the country.

Anyways - thats where we are at !

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on April 02, 2015, 03:43:26 PM

Sorry - just to add - we will try to cater for as many as we can with the exam. I appreciate a lot of people want to sit it.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: gavinduffy89 on April 02, 2015, 09:41:01 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: mr hoppy on April 03, 2015, 12:17:48 AM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: raindogxx on April 03, 2015, 12:11:46 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paulo440 on April 04, 2015, 11:09:24 AM

Quote from: raindogxx on April 03, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Shanna on April 04, 2015, 01:49:26 PM

Quote from: Partridge9 on April 02, 2015, 03:41:39 PM

I'm on that - Basically where we are ..

We are organising 6 sessions over the summer - roughly one every two weeks with a gap here and there

We wont taste every style, but target a few and concentrate on getting good scoresheets filled out.
There will be an exam tasting at the end of each class, in which will use exam scoresheets and conditions.

Roughly starting end of may - rolling to end of august.

These sessions will start with an off-tasting. Then there will be 5 sessions where 6 beers are evaluated per session.

We are going to pick 8 weekends and two will be voted out by the majority.

Depending on numbers we might run an additional off-tasting at the end for those who dont make the first one.

The price per session is roughly 15 euro for members and 18 euro for non-members.

This will cover the price of the beer/ tasting kits.
You dont need to attend every session, you pay for what you can attend, but the off-tasting is strongly advisable.

There is an additional price for the exam - but for the moment we are just going to take a deposit from the people going on the course. People on the course are guarenteed a seat for the exam.

BJCP in the UK have kindly offered to assist with the proctoring of the exam.

We are currently targetting mid to the end of september.

The current Venue is The Black Sheep. We have teachers for 5 of the 6 classes

I will confirm prices and get a date list going once I have spoken to all the helpers and people giving the classes.

Also - I will liase with The HopBomb and JohnRM for Cork and Galway - see if we can get the same classes run roughly the same all over the country.

Anyways - thats where we are at !

Hi Patridge,

Any idea yet as to what time of day this would be held at or how roughly how long each session would take? Would be interested to attend but as free time is at a premium it would depend on the timing?

Shanna

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Shanna on April 04, 2015, 01:50:47 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. Shanna (provisional interest but depends on timing)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on April 04, 2015, 05:43:48 PM

Shanna- we are looking at 90 - 120 mins - starting at 11 or 12 - thats dependent on the venue

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Vermelho on April 04, 2015, 06:20:32 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. Shanna (provisional interest but depends on timing)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: revel_and_chaff on April 07, 2015, 08:39:29 AM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. Shanna (provisional interest but depends on timing)
38. revel_and_chaff, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: IrishBeerSnob on April 08, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. Shanna (provisional interest but depends on timing)
38. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
39. irishbeersnob, Dublin

Great work guys

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: hassettbrew on April 08, 2015, 03:29:54 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. Shanna (provisional interest but depends on timing)
38. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
39. irishbeersnob, Dublin
40. Hassettbrew, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on April 08, 2015, 07:30:11 PM

Guys , just an update

The staff are currently 'wittling' (is that a word) the summer weekends from ten to eight

Once this is done - the participants will wittle it from eight to six.

isnt doodle great !

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on May 01, 2015, 10:38:10 PM

Any update on the wittling? :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Codonohoe on May 02, 2015, 12:50:59 PM

Codonohoe
If in Dublin I'd love to attend

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 05, 2015, 10:18:39 PM

Ok folks

Update on the whittling !

We have 9 weeks left, of which we will definitely run 6 (maybe 7) classes.

The price per session is roughly 15 euro for members and 18 euro for non-members.
Minimum 3 sessions for course registration (max will be 6 or 7)

Venue - the black sheep

01- 30/05/2015
02- 20/06/2015
03- 27/06/2015
04- 04/07/2015
05- 01/08/2015
06- 22/08/2015
07- 29/08/2015
08- 12/09/2015
09- 19/09/2015

EXAM -=- Somewhere between - 20/09/2015 to 20/10/2015 depending on proctor situation.
Participation in the course - guarantees seat in exam

Two dates will be eliminated, the two with lowest estimated attendance. Put down all the dates that you can attend.
Please update the scheduling doodle here (http://doodle.com/gx2nfpa6g36wam9s)

If your dates get eliminated - you can add in additional dates later.

Once the classes are sorted we can take deposits and schedule the exam

Those, who only want to do the exam - hold your horses for the moment.
the exam scheduling will be done last - we haven't forgot about you !

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Shanna on May 05, 2015, 11:45:11 PM

Unfortunately have to remove myself from the list as I can't make most of the dates listed :(

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Shane Phelan on May 06, 2015, 07:45:19 AM

I see the finalised set of guidelines are now published. http://www.bjcp.org/

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on May 06, 2015, 10:03:23 AM

We need to decide (and check with BJCP) if this exam will be to old or new style guide!

Also for our competitions when are WE going to adopt the new guidlines?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on May 06, 2015, 10:24:46 AM

The BJCP website states that the new guidelines will be in use from November, so if we plan an exam in September, it will likely be done with the 2008 ones?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:07 AM

Exactly,

we were probably more like the end of september / start of october for the exam with the way the timetable was working out.

I'm just onto Ali in the UK, I'll keep you posted here.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on May 06, 2015, 12:24:58 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin
40. Andrew, exam only

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on May 06, 2015, 12:51:18 PM

Quote from: Partridge9 on May 05, 2015, 10:18:39 PM

Please update the scheduling doodle here (http://doodle.com/gx2nfpa6g36wam9s)

Those, who only want to do the exam - hold your horses for the moment.
the exam scheduling will be done last - we haven't forgot about you !

Am free to help out most of those dates - have updated the list - maybe I shouldn't have ???

BTW: Guys please update the doodle - see above link!

We need to get this moving as the BJCP has just hit us with the new style guide so we have to hold the exam before November!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Damien M on May 06, 2015, 04:03:36 PM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Partridge
26. Cahalbrua
27. Hingo
28. shanek
29. Simon
30. Saruman - exam only
31. gavinduffy89
32. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
33. raindogxx
34. Paulo440, Dublin
35. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
36. irishbeersnob, Dublin
37. Hassettbrew, Dublin
38. Andrew, exam only

taken name out as wont be able to commit the time

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hop Bomb on May 06, 2015, 06:12:47 PM

Stick me down for exam only if its possible. If its not possible can someone make a call on it asap. Cheers.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 06, 2015, 06:32:12 PM

Thats Grand Tom - no problems at all.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 06, 2015, 07:00:53 PM

We are trying to get the new exam sorted. Looking for a date mid November.

I'll keep you posted.

We might be one of the first on the new guidelines !

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on May 06, 2015, 07:33:41 PM

From a general point of view, I think going with the new guidelines would be a sensible idea: what's the point of studying and preparing on a set of guidelines that are "out of date" the very same day we take the exam?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on May 06, 2015, 11:01:03 PM

Quote from: giacomorizzo on May 06, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
From a general point of view, I think going with the new guidelines would be a sensible idea: what's the point of studying and preparing on a set of guidelines that are "out of date" the very same day we take the exam?

Because you can't just throw a switch in the proctor's head's/palette's that says "Now you are qualified to proctor the new guidline beer styles"

Its a subtle thing judging beers! The basic qualification is that you can judge to a style. The latest guides have thrown up a large number of new styles and also some styles have subtle changes! It is not an easy job for a judge to change.

Also remember that before you can sit the tasting exam you need to pass the online exam!

Is this ready yet? Will it be ready by November?

For the BJCP a set of guidlines is one thing but a re-jigged, calibrated on-line exam is another matter!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on May 06, 2015, 11:08:11 PM

Not saying it's not the case :) from a very selfish point of view, though, if we could manage to have the exam on the new guidelines, that would mean that we avoid the following "re-base" step. If that's not possible, then well, what's the issue :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: IsMise on May 07, 2015, 06:32:28 PM

If I'm not too late to put my name down for this, been out of the loop for a while, otherwise I accept it's "first up best dressed". (I have also filled in the "doodle") :-[

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin
40. Andrew, exam only
41. Is Mise, Kevin, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 07, 2015, 09:34:57 PM

guys / ladies

dont forget to update the doodle with your course date preferences

http://doodle.com/gx2nfpa6g36wam9s#table

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Adrian on May 19, 2015, 11:37:50 AM

Quote from: IsMise on May 07, 2015, 06:32:28 PM
If I'm not too late to put my name down for this, been out of the loop for a while, otherwise I accept it's "first up best dressed". (I have also filled in the "doodle") :-[

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin
40. Andrew, exam only
41. Is Mise, Kevin, Dublin
42. Adrian

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: fyodor on May 19, 2015, 11:55:25 AM

1. Bubbles, Dublin
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin
40. Andrew, exam only
41. Is Mise, Kevin, Dublin
42. Adrian
43. Fionn, Dublin

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on May 19, 2015, 12:07:24 PM

14 People have filled in the doodle and the first date is rapidly approaching. Help the organisers help you.

http://doodle.com/gx2nfpa6g36wam9s#table

Any idea when the dates will be finalised so I can lock these down in my calendar?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 19, 2015, 02:30:41 PM

Yeap -

We will wrap it up now - we are over subscribed by 2 but we will work it out.

In fairness, people have had plenty of time to respond to the doodle.

We will have all the dates finalised by the end of the week

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: IrishBeerSnob on May 19, 2015, 02:59:40 PM

I meant to reply but when i looked through the dates i was going to miss too many sessions - next year hopefully

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on May 19, 2015, 03:09:14 PM

This (http://barleypopmaker.info/free-bjcp-prep-course-videos/)could be useful for some.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Bubbles on May 20, 2015, 09:08:24 AM

2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin
40. Andrew, exam only
41. Is Mise, Kevin, Dublin
42. Adrian
43. Fionn, Dublin

Unfortunately, I'll have to opt out too. Just can't ring fence the 6 Saturdays required to do the course. :(

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Rossa on May 21, 2015, 08:38:01 AM

Quote from: Bubbles on May 20, 2015, 09:08:24 AM
2. Pob, Dublin
3. Molc, Dublin
4. Ciaran, Dublin
5. DoubleG, Dublin
6. Johnnycheech, Dublin
7. DCBrewing, Dublin
8. Giacomo, Dublin
9. Will_D Exam only (but prepared to help/talk)
10. Vermelho, Dublin
11. Parky, Dublin
12. Brewhooer, Dublin
13. markc, Dublin
14. cris23costa, Dublin
15. N.Peterson Dublin
16. GlasBrewInc, Dublin
17. Dosbrew, dublin
18. Martin, dublin
19. Maja, dublin
20. Beerfly, exam only
21. Johnrm, exam only
22. OzBrewer, Dublin
23. Shiny, Dublin, exam only (but prepared to help out)
24. pdb, Dublin
25. Damien M
26. Sandra M
27. Partridge
28. Cahalbrua
29. Hingo
30. shanek
31. Simon
32. Saruman - exam only
33. gavinduffy89
34. mr hoppy - only if in Cork
35. raindogxx
36. Paulo440, Dublin
37. revel_and_chaff, Dublin
38. irishbeersnob, Dublin
39. Hassettbrew, Dublin
40. Andrew, exam only
41. Is Mise, Kevin, Dublin
42. Adrian
43. Fionn, Dublin

Unfortunately, I'll have to opt out too. Just can't ring fence the 6 Saturdays required to do the course. :(

I wasn't able to make a few classes when we did it and I'm sure it'll be the same for others this time around but getting to some of them would still stand you in good stead.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Hop Bomb on May 21, 2015, 04:49:30 PM

I didnt do any of them last year. Just did the sensory morning & mock tasting exam. Home study!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on May 24, 2015, 08:00:29 PM

Folks we are wrapping up this doodle now

Our class dates are ..

01 - 20/06/2015
02 - 04/07/2015
03 - 22/08/2015
04 - 29/08/2015
05 - 12/09/2015
06 - 19/09/2015

Everyone can attend on the 12 September - so we might aim for a sensory tasting / mock exam for that one.

We are still working on the exam, we have our proctors but need to get it published with the BJCP in the US now.

If you like the look of the dates above and you have not signed up - we could possibly squeeze one or two more in but PM me ASAP.

Next step, The teachers will have a chat about the new guidelines and discuss the layout and the course material for each class.
We would like to add two parts to each class - one is a technical session, explaining some aspects of brewing and the influence it has on beer
and the other is getting some of the higher scorers from the exam last year, to have a quick chat with you about how best to fill in the scoresheet and maximise your exam score.
Of course that depends on peoples availability.

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 01, 2015, 11:11:09 PM

Found this study guide (http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Study_Guide.pdf) on the BJCP website

Worth a gander.

We are getting all the relevant course materials into one google drive so people can access it easily.

First class is 20th June, looking forward to it !

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 02, 2015, 12:16:02 PM

Folks,

Some people are adding dates to their original choices

feel free to change the days of your classes, best done before you make payment !

Regards

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 05, 2015, 10:47:23 PM

Guys / Ladies

There is still one or two spots on this course if anyone is interested.
Starts in two weeks.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on June 08, 2015, 07:29:01 PM

I think Christina from the Dublin ladies wants in. I think she said she was in contact with someone but I don't see her on the list.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on June 09, 2015, 10:05:28 AM

Really looking forward to this :)

Is there any prep we can do before the first class other than reading http://www.bjcp.org/study.php ?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: phoenix on June 09, 2015, 12:43:46 PM

Can someone stick the course dates into the NHC calendar please?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on June 09, 2015, 04:37:07 PM

Quote from: phoenix on June 09, 2015, 12:43:46 PM
Can someone stick the course dates into the NHC calendar please?

done

NHC calendar (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/calendar/)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 14, 2015, 07:53:55 PM

Folks

I have updated the spreadsheet with the payments, I am missing a couple, if you are listed as not paid and you have done so, please send me a PM.
There is a shed load of payments at the moment and I may well have missed it !!

If have changed your mind or something - please let me know as I need to ensure I have the correct volume of beer for the first class.

If anyone wants to attend this class - we probably have room for a couple more.

For members its basically

6 classes - 90.74
5 classes - 75.74
4 classes - 60.74
3 classes - 45.74

Dates

01 - 20/06/2015
02 - 04/07/2015
03 - 22/08/2015
04 - 29/08/2015
05 - 12/09/2015
06 - 19/09/2015

If you are interested - you need to let us know ASAP, its fast approaching !

Thanks

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Frequent Sequence on June 14, 2015, 09:48:09 PM

Very interested. May not be able to attend the first date. would it be possible to attend from then on?
Thanks.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 14, 2015, 09:50:56 PM

Yeap of course, no worries at all

very few of the attendees are available for all the dates.

If you want to attend 5 classes - its €75.74 for members - simply pay using paypal to ...

bjcp@nationalhomebrewclub.ie

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on June 14, 2015, 10:49:41 PM

Is there money owed for exam only yet?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 14, 2015, 11:20:55 PM

Not yet, we are still finalising that. We'll keep you posted ;-)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 15, 2015, 07:00:46 PM

Ok folks

Kick off is 12 noon for the black sheep on Saturday. If you could get there a few minutes early, that would be good, so we can start on time.

Andy, the regional manager has kindly offered us a beer and a burger for a tenner, for refreshment after, this offer is only available to the course participants

All you need to bring with you is a pencil ! The course has been priced to simply buy the beer for the tasting on the day.

The new guidelines are available for BJCP or here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9fs48qiqecxOHkyak5taldBS0E/view?usp=sharing)

We are going to be starting with categories 18B / 19C / 21A and maybe one more. These are pretty straightforward categories with the focus more around the sheets and preparing people correctly.

For those in the 'exam only' category - we are in the process of getting our date confirmed and once this is ready we will get back here.

Looking forward to it

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Jonnycheech on June 16, 2015, 07:13:38 AM

Sorry this may have been asked before but how long does each session last roughly?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 16, 2015, 04:28:21 PM

We are looking at around 2 hours , but we will have a better idea after the first class !

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 16, 2015, 04:33:42 PM

Guys this course if completely full now.

Sorry, no more spots :(

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 18, 2015, 10:55:16 PM

Guys and Ladies,

We begin our classes Saturday. Rossa is taking lead on this first class on Pale Ales and IPAs, however the styles themselves will be taking a back seat and much of the emphasis will be on identifying flavours in beer, converting that onto paper, giving homebrewers feedback and getting exam tips and trick from those who scored well.
Hopefully you will find it rewarding.
For those who are listed in the original list for the 'exam only', we havent forgot. We have applied to BJCP and reserved exam facilitators, so fingered crossed. Any updates I'll post as soon as we get them.

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: DoubleG on June 18, 2015, 11:02:36 PM

Really looking forward to Saturday guys. Thanks for putting it all together. Is there anything we need to bring along?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on June 20, 2015, 11:10:34 PM

1 class in, fantastic!A big thanks to the lads for organizing the training etc.
Cheers

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: DoubleG on June 24, 2015, 11:10:27 AM

If anyone is interested Brad Smith from BeerSmith has a podcast on the new BJCP 2015 guidelines. He interviews Gordon Strong who we talked about in the first class about the new guidelines and there is some information on the format of the BJCP exam.

Heres the link:

http://beersmith.com/blog/

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: ManofBeerd on June 25, 2015, 05:33:27 PM

Hi Guys,

Is there any places available for these BJCP courses?

Rgds,

Derek.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 25, 2015, 09:17:11 PM

Derek,

We are one class in, its going great

We are a little packed for the remainder of the classes, if you are interested - I'll have a quick chat with the course facilitators and see if they mind, but unfortunately we are well over subscribed for the exam.

So I suppose, that leads to the question, are you still interested in the course if you cant sit the exam ? we can only offer the mock exam.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Jonnycheech on June 27, 2015, 07:19:02 PM

Can anybody help me out with the name of the homework beer?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: ManofBeerd on June 27, 2015, 07:42:26 PM

Hi Partridge, thanks for the reply. I suppose I would prefer to do course and exam. I could wait until the next round, if there is to be a next round of courses? Ideally I would like to get certified. What are the chances of courses and exams being put on again within the next 6 months?

Rgds,

Derek

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: GlasbrewInc on June 27, 2015, 08:03:20 PM

Modus hopirandi

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Pat_buttercups on June 28, 2015, 10:51:09 AM

hey could you let me know if theres any extra spots for the course this year? Know im running in late here but I have been interested just trying to sort out sheadules 1st :P if not i may try and put name in early for next year if its running again

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on June 28, 2015, 03:05:47 PM

Are course notes or info up on the share from the last day? Want to try and catch up before the next one, so if theres anything I need to do, just point me in the right direction :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 28, 2015, 09:17:55 PM

Sorry Colm

I was meant to ping out an email - Ill do that

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 28, 2015, 10:06:17 PM

Just a quick course update

I'll ping this around by email as well.

Class 1 : June 20th : Black Sheep : Rough duration 3.5 hours.

Rossa / Andrew / James

Introduction
Course Summary and objectives : Rossa / James

Beer Evaluation : 18B Pale Ale : Sierra Nevada -
Gordon Strongs eval handed out, this can of SNPA was seriously lacking in hops, very aged.

Sensory Testing : Hop Oils by Andrew

Homebrew evaluation : This homebrew had yeast stress and off flavours.

Beer Evaluation : 19C American Brown : Brookyln Brown
Gordon Strongs eval handed out, after for comparision, the sample bottles we tried were excellent.

Beer Evaluation : 21A American IPA : Firestone Walker
Very nice sample but lacking the body and punch of an IPA. Kinda fell between stools, not an IPA not a Pale ale. but a very nice beer !

Beer Evaluation : 21A American IPA : Sam Adams IPA
Very poor example of an IPA, it had the ABV and body but seriously lacking in any hops.

Sensory Session : Andrew : Oxidation, wet cardboard.

Beer Evaluation : Homebrew : this was an oxidised homebrew, to sample the off-taste in the flesh.

Beer Evaluation : 21B RYA IPA : Beaverstown 8 Ball

Beer Evaluation : 21B Black IPA : Thornbridge Black IPA -

We didnt score the last two, as things were running way overtime.

Homework - if you can manage it

Modus Hoperandi - Ska Brewing Co. (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/923/48243/)

Its available in the drinkstore.ie , here (http://www.drinkstore.ie/Ska-Brewing-Modus-Hoperandi-Ca-662502000164/)

So just to summarise, for the remaining classes

Class 1 : American Ales
Class 2 : english ales (some other styles TBA)
Class 3 : Beglians
Class 4 : German Styles (Or Irish Craft beers)
Class 5 : Stouts / Dark Beers
Class 6 : TBA

We will be fitting in a mock exam and our official BJCP exam, looks like its been authorized.

We might be moving class 4 to the RDS (thanks Andrew!) but I'll email around and keep people posted.

Im not available this weekend myself, so if someone can help rossa with sorting the tables, or if people can take responsibility of their own tables, that would be great.

Thanks

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Samael on June 29, 2015, 01:52:19 AM

Where can I find any info about future courses ??

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on June 29, 2015, 01:26:49 PM

We will aim to run it on an annual basis.

It will probably be September 2016 for the next one.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Samael on June 29, 2015, 01:41:04 PM

Cheers James :) I have to set reminder :D

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Boycott on August 17, 2015, 08:28:16 PM

Belgians at 12 this Saturday is it? I cant make it once again :( Maja might not either but if she is it will only be for the 1st hour

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on August 23, 2015, 03:57:09 PM

Class 3: Belgians

Another great one guys; thanks to Rossa, Andrew & Shane for their time & knowledge.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on August 23, 2015, 04:10:38 PM

Was a great day and thanks again to all.
Just checking about next week. Do we need to get tickets for the rds to be able to take part?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on September 02, 2015, 01:58:10 PM

Just a heads up to all our current students who are looking for the BJCP Online Practise Exam- It's a little hidden:

You go here: https://secure.coursewebs.com/bjcp/Default.aspx (https://secure.coursewebs.com/bjcp/Default.aspx)

Add BJCP Practice Exam Questions (BJCP_Practice_English) to your cart. It is the 5th item down. Ignore the "Call For Pricing".

Then click on Checkout at the top of the page.

In checkout, select I do not have an account with BJCP.

Fill in your details, and click on Submit

You will either then be taken to your My Courses page; or you will be emailed a link to the My Courses page (I can't remember which).

From the My Courses page, just hit the launch button next to the practice course.

This is a 20 question tester with a 6 minute time limit so don't launch until you are ready to go.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: brenmurph on September 11, 2015, 01:56:26 PM

Saturday 10th October here @maltcracker Kildare we will be having a tasting session discussion group on BJCP tasting / styles brewing and so on.

Its a great opportunity to come down for extra support from proven and experienced Brewers and Judges and perhaps a skilled Somellier will be present to help out as well.

Kellie and Myself would like to invite 2015 students to come down and enjoy a day of tasting, discussion and learning.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on September 11, 2015, 01:57:53 PM

Fair play bren !!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: brenmurph on September 11, 2015, 02:03:56 PM

forgot to re-iterate Kildare is 45 minutes on our direct green bus from westmorland street thats about the same time as the CIE bus to Clondalkin. By car its 25 minutes from red cow 22 mins Newlands X. Bus is 10 euros return and is every 30 minutes

We may even have a masterclass on hops as it will be hop harvest time as well! So if you have not been to @maltcracker's base yet then you are seriously missing out if beer is your passion...theres no place better to learn ;)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on September 11, 2015, 02:08:21 PM

Sounds great to me !!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on September 11, 2015, 02:57:05 PM

Damn that sounds like a great day out.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on September 12, 2015, 09:49:41 PM

Sounds fantastic, cheers Bren

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on September 14, 2015, 09:35:37 PM

Would anyone like to get a whatsapp group going? Starting to get serious about studying for November about would be useful to be able to drop questions and discuss approaches.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on September 14, 2015, 09:37:21 PM

+1 for the whatsapp group

Btw: I'm having troubles paying for the online exam... I'm getting transactions denied... anyone else having the same issue?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on September 14, 2015, 09:47:32 PM

PM your numbers and we'll get the party started :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on September 14, 2015, 10:28:24 PM

People will kill me for spamming the group - can someone confirm if we will be doing both the written exam and tasting or just the latter?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on September 14, 2015, 10:32:58 PM

Just the tasting.

From http://www.bjcp.org/membergd.php:
"Judges wishing to advance to ranks beyond Certified must take the BJCP Beer Judge Written Proficiency Examination, a 90 minute written examination."

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Rossa on September 14, 2015, 11:04:53 PM

Quote from: pdb on September 14, 2015, 09:35:37 PM
Would anyone like to get a whatsapp group going? Starting to get serious about studying for November about would be useful to be able to drop questions and discuss approaches.

We actually had a chat about that a month ago. I presumed it had started. Is it on the go yet?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on September 15, 2015, 08:30:31 AM

Folks , just to clarify, we are just scheduled for the tasting exam , not the written.
You need to score 70 per cent in the tasting to qualify for the written.
Also it can take months to get the tasting results back !!!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on September 16, 2015, 08:58:35 AM

Did the online exam before work this morning and passed! 200 questions in an hour really keeps you in your toes.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on September 16, 2015, 08:59:52 AM

Did it yesterday evening... yeah, time is critical and the exam is long...

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on September 16, 2015, 12:50:18 PM

From experience, it can take a number (ahem) of times to get through this.
Time is critical.

Do not be disheartened if you do not get it first time around!
Take a break and go again.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: hassettbrew on October 05, 2015, 04:56:41 PM

Quote from: brenmurph on September 11, 2015, 01:56:26 PM
Saturday 10th October here @maltcracker Kildare we will be having a tasting session discussion group on BJCP tasting / styles brewing and so on.

Its a great opportunity to come down for extra support from proven and experienced Brewers and Judges and perhaps a skilled Somellier will be present to help out as well.

Kellie and Myself would like to invite 2015 students to come down and enjoy a day of tasting, discussion and learning.

Is this still on offer

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Kellie on October 05, 2015, 06:24:07 PM

Yes it certainly is :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on October 05, 2015, 09:32:52 PM

Thats a really generous offer folks
I am away at the footy in Poland so cant make but I really think this is a great opportunity to expand your knowledge.
Bren gave me a run down on what he is planning, and understanding body, dryness, finish, texture, this sort of stuff is invaluable for the exam.
Hopefully we can squeeze it into next years course as well, if ye'll have us.

On the exam - if you havent got am email and you were on the list - please send me an PM. We might have a free slot depending.

James

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on October 07, 2015, 05:11:46 PM

Beer Flavour Standards refresher- 12 pm, Saturday 17th October, venue to
be decided but will be Dublin centre.

Come along for a free flavour standards refresher, covering DMS,
Diacetyl, Isoamyl Acetate, Oxidisation, Lightstruck, Hydrogen Sulphate,
Ferrous Sulphate, Nonenal, Musty and Phenolic. Plus two new flavours,
Acetaldehyde and Butyric. Also get the chance to sample identical
flavour standards from the Aroxa, FlavorActive and Siebel kits.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on October 07, 2015, 05:36:07 PM

Excellent. Will be there.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on October 07, 2015, 05:46:50 PM

Will definitely try to be there :)

Title: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on October 07, 2015, 06:20:44 PM

Beer Flavour Standards refresher
12 pm, Saturday 17th October,
Venue: tbc, Dublin centre.

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on October 08, 2015, 12:16:52 AM

Beer Flavour Standards refresher
12 pm, Saturday 17th October,
Venue: tbc, Dublin centre.

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on October 08, 2015, 11:32:37 AM

Does anyone have any preferences on venue? I was thinking Alfie Byrnes, how does that suit?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on October 08, 2015, 11:52:55 AM

Alfie's work for me, but probably any other place in Dublin would :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: molc on October 08, 2015, 11:56:55 AM

Yeah Alfie's is fine here as well. I'm on the dart line, so pretty much anywhere in the city works.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Jonnycheech on October 08, 2015, 12:13:43 PM

Beer Flavour Standards refresher
12 pm, Saturday 17th October,
Venue: tbc, Dublin centre.

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek
5. Johnny

Sounds great, cheers Andrew! Alfie's good with me.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: auralabuse on October 08, 2015, 12:24:28 PM

I have oxidized stout if you would like to take it as an off flavour. It's obviously going down the sink either way

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on October 08, 2015, 12:25:13 PM

Hi Andrew, will be away that weekend unfortunately. Any chance of bringing a few along to maltcracker this Sat also?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: GlasbrewInc on October 08, 2015, 12:27:23 PM

Would love to go to both but don't think I'll be able to.... Have fun all

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on October 08, 2015, 01:09:47 PM

Quote from: pdb on October 08, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
Hi Andrew, will be away that weekend unfortunately. Any chance of bringing a few along to maltcracker this Sat also?

Unfortunately I've only got one capsule of each- I could look to bottle a few for you though.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Kellie on October 08, 2015, 02:53:12 PM

Paul we will cover off flavours on Saturday as well, if that helps :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Paul B on October 08, 2015, 03:06:46 PM

Quote from: Andrew on October 08, 2015, 01:09:47 PM
Quote from: pdb on October 08, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
Hi Andrew, will be away that weekend unfortunately. Any chance of bringing a few along to maltcracker this Sat also?
Unfortunately I've only got one capsule of each- I could look to bottle a few for you though.

No problem Andrew sounds like maltcracker have it covered! :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on October 08, 2015, 03:34:06 PM

Alfie's sounds good

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: DoubleG on October 08, 2015, 04:16:53 PM

Beer Flavour Standards refresher
12 pm, Saturday 17th October,
Venue: tbc, Dublin centre.

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek
5. Johnny
6. DoubleG

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on October 09, 2015, 12:29:39 PM

Beer Flavour Standards refresher
12 pm, Saturday 17th October,
Venue: Alfie Byrnes, Dublin centre.

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek
5. Johnny
6. DoubleG
7. Phil Tavey
8. Mark Nixon
9. Julie Levy

Also, Alfie Byrnes has been confirmed.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: SlugTrap on October 14, 2015, 10:20:21 AM

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek
5. Johnny
6. DoubleG
7. Phil Tavey
8. Mark Nixon
9. Julie Levy
10. Slugtrap

Open to all, I'm assuming...?

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Andrew on October 16, 2015, 11:28:42 AM

Quote from: SlugTrap on October 14, 2015, 10:20:21 AM
1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek
5. Johnny
6. DoubleG
7. Julie Levy
8. Slugtrap

Open to all, I'm assuming...?

I'm capping at 12 people. Anyone can join but I'm slightly favouring the BJCP'ers.

See you all tomorrow.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: DoubleG on October 16, 2015, 01:38:20 PM

Sorry guys I'm going to have to pull out of this. Apologies for the late notice.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Boycott on October 16, 2015, 07:11:51 PM

1. Molc
2. Giacomorizzo
3. Pob
4. Shanek
5. Johnny
6. Phil Tavey
7. Mark Nixon
8. Julie Levy
9. Slugtrap
10. DCBrewing
11. Maja

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on October 19, 2015, 11:29:37 AM

As the exam is just around the corner I dug out this old post about scroring beer in the exam:
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,5670.msg71857.html#msg71857 (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,5670.msg71857.html#msg71857)

[With a few updates]

Subtitle: Lessons Learned!

I have just been crunching some numbers and it is obvious that to do well on the numerical scoring you need to match the judges score as closely as possible and not just score the beer as you would in a competion.

For example the really good beer should score 44 or 45 so is that what you would score it?

No way as the chances of a judge awarding MORE than you are remote to say the least. They are more likely to mark the beer lower say they mark 38. You mark 44. The difference is 6

If you marked it down to say 42 then the difference would be 4 (National level) If they marked higher then they could go to 46 and the diff would still be 4!

For the really good beers ( in your opinion ) then this approach should help

The same logic applies at the bottom end!

As regards the first beer [A Fullers ESB iirc!]: I fell into the same trap on the online-exam:

Qn: "Category 8 A, B, C cannot be obtained in bottles in the US" True or False

I naturally put down false but its true!

It states in the guide that the style notes apply to the cask/keg versions. These are hard to find in the US in cask / kegs and the stuff the brewers bottle is NOT the same beer! Its brewed to a higher abv with no regard to other critical factors like IBU! So therefore in our exam it was bottled and therefore not to style! Sneaky eh!

One final note: If I had scored all beers as 29 or 32 the average diff would be 4, If 30 or 31 would be 3.666

Its easy enough to do with excel!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on October 20, 2015, 10:14:37 PM

Folks, I should probably know this at this stage. For the tasting exam do you have a copy of the style guides? I checked on the BJCP website but didnt find the answer. Cheers.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: giacomo on October 20, 2015, 10:16:00 PM

No, it's a closed book exam. I don't agree with this approach, but this is how the exam is done :)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on October 25, 2015, 09:05:30 PM

In preparation for the exam the NCB'ers are holding a Siebel off-flavours day on Sunday the 1st of November from about 2pm in the Rugby Club.

Please sign on here if you are interested:

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10887.0.html (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10887.0.html)

This is free to NCB members and there will just be a nominal charge for non NCB'ers

Every little helps!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: shanek on October 25, 2015, 09:52:18 PM

Will D, which rugby club? Cheers

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on October 26, 2015, 10:51:50 AM

Quote from: shanek on October 25, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
Will D, which rugby club? Cheers

Malahide ( along the estuuary between Malahide and Swords)

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on October 31, 2015, 11:11:07 AM

Just bumping this as it's on tomorrow:

In preparation for the exam the NCB'ers are holding a Siebel off-flavours day on Sunday the 1st of November from about 2pm in Malahide Rugby Club. (along the estuary between Malahide and Swords.

Please sign on here if you are interested:

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10887.0.html (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10887.0.html)

This is free to NCB members and there will just be a nominal charge for non NCB'ers

Every little helps!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on October 31, 2015, 11:22:17 AM

Sorry going to have to miss it. Thanks for organising.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Partridge9 on November 01, 2015, 12:43:18 PM

Folks
We are going to use the opportunity to evaluate a few beers as well.
I'll bring some exam sheets

Thanks Will for organising

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: Will_D on November 07, 2015, 06:27:10 PM

Mock Exam Today

Great day out, good to meet up with some new faces (and old ones).

Many thanks again must go to James for pulling this together.

Also to the 'Dock for hosting us and I must say the burger/pint deal made up for the smell of new paint!

Note to self: Must Drink more neer but in a structured writing it down sort of way!

Best thing of the day: Listening to other peoples way of describing the flavours and aromas. Worth every penny :)

See you all next Sunday!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: pob on November 07, 2015, 06:36:07 PM

Quote from: Will_D on November 07, 2015, 06:27:10 PM
Note to self: Must Drink more beer but in a structured writing it down sort of way!

Best thing of the day: Listening to other peoples way of describing the flavours and aromas. Worth every penny :)

See you all next Sunday!

+1

Really showed up my gaps, very much have to improve my descriptive vocabulary & brewer feedback.

Thanks to all there.

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: johnrm on November 07, 2015, 07:13:52 PM

I was a last minute entrant to today's affair.
I'm really glad I attended for all the reasons above, yes, the burgers were ace!
Good man James for organising!

Title: Re: BJCP Course 2015?
Post by: DoubleG on November 08, 2015, 10:44:37 PM

Great day and well organised! Thanks for all the work that goes into organising it. The cramming starts now!! A lot of beers to score before next weekend!!

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