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Irish beer Clone Recipes?

Started by admin, November 05, 2012, 04:48:42 PM

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Hop Bomb

No sweat. Another amendment to the GBB recipes is we dont use any marris otter for a base malt in anything. Its all Simpsons best pale ale. Our boil on buried at sea is longer than 60 mins also. When we add the lactose it totally kills the boil so we have to pause the clock until it gets back to a rolling boil again. You may not have that problem on a 20 litre scale though?
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

Bubbles

Thanks for the further info Tom. So is 5g of drinking chocolate correct then? Can't be any more than a teaspoon or two in a home brew size batch..

irish_goat

Might give that a lash someday.

Quote from: Hop Bomb on December 05, 2014, 12:12:37 PMOur boil on buried at sea is longer than 60 mins also. When we add the lactose it totally kills the boil so we have to pause the clock until it gets back to a rolling boil again. You may not have that problem on a 20 litre scale though?

Preboil the lactose maybe? Or does the extra time in the kettle benefit the brew anyway?

Hop Bomb

Tbh as a homebrewer 5g seems miniscule. But if ye want to clone it then I guess that seems like the correct scale down to 19 litres. You could always dose a bottle of stout with measured amounts of it to see what tastes best yourself. or look to some homebrew recipes that are already out there to see what their dosage is.

As for the boil thats up to yourself. We have to add the extra time as it totally kills the boil for 10 or 15 mins. Not good for hop utilization & getting your boil off to hit your numbers.
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

Qs

I decided recently to pause my boil timer when I add the chiller for the same reason. Does anyone else do this? I'm thinking in future I'll add the chiller earlier too so it doesn't affect my late hop additions as much.

johnrm

Braumeister instructions suggest adding the chiller AT the end of the boil. 70c+ is what you need to kill bugs so this makes sense.

Qs

Might try that. I always have it in a bucket of starsan anyway. Can't be too careful though.

cruiscinlan

Quote from: Hop Bomb on December 05, 2014, 12:33:26 PM


As for the boil thats up to yourself. We have to add the extra time as it totally kills the boil for 10 or 15 mins. Not good for hop utilization & getting your boil off to hit your numbers.

I don't know how this would work yourselves in GBB on an industrial scale but as there's a kitchen in the Oslo one trick for you is to put the sugar in an oven and preheat it to 100C, this a trick from jam-making.

irish_goat

Quote from: cruiscinlan on December 15, 2014, 10:35:18 PM
I don't know how this would work yourselves in GBB on an industrial scale but as there's a kitchen in the Oslo one trick for you is to put the sugar in an oven and preheat it to 100C, this a trick from jam-making.
Good plan except GBB moved the brewery out of the Oslo a good few months ago.

cruiscinlan

Did they not move it out the back into the outbuildings? Anyway on an industrial scale if it causes trouble with a big industrial process like brewing depending on their volume they may be able to get a unit that would preheat the sugar for them or contract it.
Just a thought anyway.

Hop Bomb

Pausing the clock on the boil for 10 mins is much easier than trying to pre heat the lactose. (We're based in Ballybritt Industrial Estate now - not in salthill anymore)
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

oblivious

Quote from: Hop Bomb on December 16, 2014, 02:01:09 AM
Pausing the clock on the boil for 10 mins is much easier than trying to pre heat the lactose. (We're based in Ballybritt Industrial Estate now - not in salthill anymore)

Make in it up as syrup in boiling water***, it will then have a lower mash threshold top back to a boil


***works on the home brew scale at least

lewi

Feck i brewed a 19l batch with 300 grams of cocoa powder. Should be interesting. In saying that i've brewed chocolate stouts before with 200 grams in the recipe. Hop Bomb at what point do you add the chocolate powder?

molc

Well let us know how the 300 gm works out on this one. When's it due? Doing the same brew in the new year, so would be great to hear some comments before I throw the kitchen sink at it :)
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Hop Bomb

Quote from: lewi on December 16, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Feck i brewed a 19l batch with 300 grams of cocoa powder. Should be interesting. In saying that i've brewed chocolate stouts before with 200 grams in the recipe. Hop Bomb at what point do you add the chocolate powder?

I was brewing Buried at Sea on Monday so while its fresh in mind I can confirm - 500g of choc powder into 2100 litres. It goes in with 15 mins left in the boil. Happy brewing! :)
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.