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Metalman cans

Started by Mossy, January 28, 2015, 07:19:21 PM

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googoomuck

Tell ya what lads will we head on down to the Roxy, I heard they have a Hoffman's promotion on this weekend.

Greg2013

Quote from: googoomuck on January 30, 2015, 09:04:46 PM
Tell ya what lads will we head on down to the Roxy, I heard they have a Hoffman's promotion on this weekend.

Where are ye going to park the caravans ? :P
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

googoomuck

Up the back of the yellow house, have a few young lads keeping an eye on them.

googoomuck

Some spot in its day, many a good night in there. Following bands with your mates. Sir Henry's was another great spot for gigs.

heeler58

I'm really glad that people are starting to talk about price. It is the noose that almost all small  breweries are going to find themselves hanging from. There seems to be a belief that using the term 'craft' bestows the right to charge exorbitant prices in Ireland. Not so in the UK where, in Wetherspoons a micro brewery beer can sell for as little as £1.75. We suffer from, possibly, an inherent greed and snobbery when it comes to anything that's good and worthwhile. This drives the average consumer back into the arms of the conglomerates again. It pisses me off...big time!😠

SlugTrap

Quote from: heeler58 on February 17, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
I'm really glad that people are starting to talk about price. It is the noose that almost all small  breweries are going to find themselves hanging from. There seems to be a belief that using the term 'craft' bestows the right to charge exorbitant prices in Ireland. Not so in the UK where, in Wetherspoons a micro brewery beer can sell for as little as £1.75. We suffer from, possibly, an inherent greed and snobbery when it comes to anything that's good and worthwhile. This drives the average consumer back into the arms of the conglomerates again. It pisses me off...big time!😠

Agree in principle.

However, I don't think that's what's happening with Metalman.
Their pale ale is one of the few properly hoppy APAs made in Ireland (imho); cans are a hop-friendly package and they're stamped with short expiry dates.
For a superior product with guaranteed freshness, I'll pay a premium.


beerfly

Quote from: heeler58 on February 17, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
I'm really glad that people are starting to talk about price. It is the noose that almost all small  breweries are going to find themselves hanging from. There seems to be a belief that using the term 'craft' bestows the right to charge exorbitant prices in Ireland. Not so in the UK where, in Wetherspoons a micro brewery beer can sell for as little as £1.75. We suffer from, possibly, an inherent greed and snobbery when it comes to anything that's good and worthwhile. This drives the average consumer back into the arms of the conglomerates again. It pisses me off...big time!

thats not really comparing like with like either.  wetherspoons here charges €2 - €2.50 for most beers, thats more down to their buying power.
you really need to compare random off-licence price in ireland with random off-licence price in the uk.

irish_goat

For reference, prices in Derry's only craft offy.

Galway Hooker 500ml - £2.99/€4.06
Kinnegar 500ml - £2.99/€4.06
O'Hara's 500ml - £2.29/€3.11
William Bros 500ml - £2.29/€3.11
Punk 330ml - £2.29/€3.11


Greg2013

Quote from: beerfly on February 18, 2015, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: heeler58 on February 17, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
I'm really glad that people are starting to talk about price. It is the noose that almost all small  breweries are going to find themselves hanging from. There seems to be a belief that using the term 'craft' bestows the right to charge exorbitant prices in Ireland. Not so in the UK where, in Wetherspoons a micro brewery beer can sell for as little as £1.75. We suffer from, possibly, an inherent greed and snobbery when it comes to anything that's good and worthwhile. This drives the average consumer back into the arms of the conglomerates again. It pisses me off...big time!

thats not really comparing like with like either.  wetherspoons here charges €2 - €2.50 for most beers, thats more down to their buying power.
you really need to compare random off-licence price in ireland with random off-licence price in the uk.

Have to agree here,you need to comapre like with like to get a fair comparison.

Quote from: irish_goat on February 18, 2015, 01:36:20 PM
For reference, prices in Derry's only craft offy.

Galway Hooker 500ml - £2.99/€4.06
Kinnegar 500ml - £2.99/€4.06
O'Hara's 500ml - £2.29/€3.11
William Bros 500ml - £2.29/€3.11
Punk 330ml - £2.29/€3.11



Those prices are taking the piss IMHO,4.00 euro for 500ml of any Irish or UK craft beer is too much especially in an off licence,unless of course it is a "special" beer such as a belgian strong ale or even an RIS. IMHO 3.00 euro is the very most you should have to pay for 500ml of any Irish craft beer in order to keep it accessable to the general public,otherwise it will be seen and thought of as elitist and we are trying to get away from that after all. ;D
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

armedcor

I don't really think that's taking the piss tbh. The euro is weak as shit right now. It's always going to look more expensive. when I was working in England, getting paid in Stirling I thought beer was cheap as chips.

SlugTrap

Quote from: Greg2013 on February 18, 2015, 06:55:20 PMIMHO 3.00 euro is the very most you should have to pay for 500ml of any Irish craft beer in order to keep it accessable to the general public,otherwise it will be seen and thought of as elitist and we are trying to get away from that after all. ;D

€3 for 500mls? I need to shop where you shop.

from drinkstore.ie; all 5% ABV or less:

Black Donkey Sheep Stealer - €3.90
Bo Bristle IPA - €3.70
Brehon Blonde - €3.70
Independent Red - €3.50
Cody's Blackjack Cream Stout - €3.70
Munster Blackguard Lager - €3.70
Reel Deal Irish Blond - €3.70

Greg2013

Quote from: SlugTrap on February 19, 2015, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: Greg2013 on February 18, 2015, 06:55:20 PMIMHO 3.00 euro is the very most you should have to pay for 500ml of any Irish craft beer in order to keep it accessable to the general public,otherwise it will be seen and thought of as elitist and we are trying to get away from that after all. ;D

€3 for 500mls? I need to shop where you shop.

from drinkstore.ie; all 5% ABV or less:

Black Donkey Sheep Stealer - €3.90
Bo Bristle IPA - €3.70
Brehon Blonde - €3.70
Independent Red - €3.50
Cody's Blackjack Cream Stout - €3.70
Munster Blackguard Lager - €3.70
Reel Deal Irish Blond - €3.70

I said 3.00 euro is the most you should have to pay not the most that i pay,for that reason i wouldn't buy any of those beers at those prices. ;D

Christ on a bike you couldn't possibly have picked a place more expensive than an online retailer like drinkstore,try an offie m8.  :o
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

SlugTrap

Quote from: Greg2013 on February 19, 2015, 02:44:34 PM
Christ on a bike you couldn't possibly have picked a place more expensive than an online retailer like drinkstore,try an offie m8.  :o

Drinkstore is the closest offie to work for me (and most people who work Northside Dublin City Centre) - brick and mortar shop on Manor St in Stoneybatter.
You might save 20 or 30 cents by going to McHugh's or Redmond's but, by the same token, Kelly's Mountain and Blackstairs (to name two) are routinely €4 a bottle.

€3 is your limit? You must drink a lot of O'Hara's...

irish_goat

Are the O'Shea's in Aldi sub-€2? Not the most amazing of beers but they're handy for keeping the fridge stocked without breaking the bank.

Greg2013

Quote from: SlugTrap on February 19, 2015, 03:33:30 PM
Quote from: Greg2013 on February 19, 2015, 02:44:34 PM
Christ on a bike you couldn't possibly have picked a place more expensive than an online retailer like drinkstore,try an offie m8.  :o

Drinkstore is the closest offie to work for me (and most people who work Northside Dublin City Centre) - brick and mortar shop on Manor St in Stoneybatter.
You might save 20 or 30 cents by going to McHugh's or Redmond's but, by the same token, Kelly's Mountain and Blackstairs (to name two) are routinely €4 a bottle.

€3 is your limit? You must drink a lot of O'Hara's...

I don't because i won't pay it,imo they are not worth it except for the Leann Follain.I simply won't participate or encourage the overpricing debacle on craft beer that imo we are subjected to in Ireland,i might buy a beer once to try but that's it,if it's below a certain standard or above a certain price i will leave it on the shelf no matter how good it is,for the same reason every time i go into Dunnes and see Theakston Old Peculier(my own personal numero uno macro beer) i sigh and leave it there as it is always above 3.00 euro a bottle and i refuse to pay that for a macro beer much less craft. ;)

The only possible exception i make is for Dungarvan Brewery beers which are always above 3.00 euro a bottle too but they are my local brewery and i know Cormac well enough so i like to show my support when i can. ;D


Quote from: irish_goat on February 19, 2015, 03:45:20 PM
Are the O'Shea's in Aldi sub-€2? Not the most amazing of beers but they're handy for keeping the fridge stocked without breaking the bank.

Afaik they are around 2.09 euro or something,basically a weaker verssion of O'Hara's but yes not bad at all,their amber ale and red ale i particularily like, i also quite like a bottle of Old Speckled Hen also at 2.09 euro. ;D
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)