gas burner & kettle help

[shanek]

Folks, just doing a trial run at the moment, moving from elec to gas. Just fired up the burner for the first time ahead of a brew tomorrow. The flame is bright yellow which in turn is blackning the pot (wghich smells nasty) any suggestions. The smell is so over powering I have turned it off. Is this normal?? I thought the flame should be more blue for head. (Using butane)

[rukkus]

Adjust the air intake, its the the silver bit on the shaft. You will need to adjust the screw that holds it on first. Oh and you shouldnt really be using those indoors etc.....

[Mudder]

If you slide open the sliver cover after the gas tap the flame will turn more blue and the black smoke will stop . I fully open the air regulator on my burner.

[shanek]

Perfect thanks folks. Burning blue now (and still have my eyebrows) planning to run the kettle in an open basement under the large vent 3.5m x10m . Still a bad idea?

[armedcor]

I think as long as you've some ventilation. Maybe a carbon monoxide alarm as well just incase?

[rukkus]

I think you have to be very careful as the gas sinks so can be very dangerous in places like basements. This might just apply to propane but I'd have a CO monitor and I think a flame failure device is really recommended for indoor gas use. I'm not an expert in this area at all but thats the kind of thing I have been reading online.

[shanek]

Great I'll pick up a carbon monoxide alarm tomorrow before brewing. Great to have piece of mind. Cheers folks

[Drum]

Just in case the lads didn't stress the point enough.. Ventilate the area as much as you can. open every door and window you can to let air in as well as out.

I dont know what your basement looks like but if its fully enclosed space with just an air vent near the ceiling I wouldn't use gas in there. you need an extractor fan at least and an air intake somewhere. 

I'm probably being a bit over cautious but i dont know what you mean by open basement and im imagining a worst case scenario

[gazz]

Can I ask why you went from electric to gas? Seems most people prefer electric, I'm just building up my equipment and dunno which to go with

[shanek]

Just in case the lads didn't stress the point enough.. Ventilate the area as much as you can. open every door and window you can to let air in as well as out.

I dont know what your basement looks like but if its fully enclosed space with just an air vent near the ceiling I wouldn't use gas in there. you need an extractor fan at least and an air intake somewhere. 

I'm probably being a bit over cautious but i dont know what you mean by open basement and im imagining a worst case scenario

The basement Is best described as a wind tunnel. A Jurassic park gate on one side and a 10m x 3m opening in the roof straight to atmosphere. All went well for the first brew. Thanks for all the advise.

[shanek]

Can I ask why you went from electric to gas? Seems most people prefer electric, I'm just building up my equipment and dunno which to go with

Volume, the oppertunity presented itself and I went for it. To be 100% honest given the choice again now that I have brewed with both I would favour elec.

[Qs]

Its fine indoors if you are using butane and not propane. No different than having a gas stove in the kitchen. The only issue is where does all the steam go?

[shanek]

Its fine indoors if you are using butane and not propane. No different than having a gas stove in the kitchen. The only issue is where does all the steam go?

I wasn't sure on the day so I rang gasproducts.ie, so basically the burner i have isn't ideal for indoor use as there is no flame back valve. Once you use butane & a burner with a flame back valve they are ok to use indoors. The area still needs to be well ventilated.

There is a significant cost difference between the 2 types of burners.

[johnrm]

Flame back valve = flame out shut off ?

[shanek]

Flame back valve = flame out shut off ?

There you go.