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Open Ardbir - Open source platform for brewing process control and automation

Started by gazz, September 18, 2015, 11:44:14 AM

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darren996

Anyone know can a manual pwm control be connected to the board i.e a hardware dial. Cant see owt in the manuals

Sorcerers Apprentice

There's already a pwm option in the menu, however as others have mentioned support info is sparse.
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darren996

Ah yeah, i know its there in software throigh the menu, but it would be nice to have a dial control on the box..cheers

pob

When it's boiling you have the buttons (up/down or 1&2 with flat strip) to decrease/increase % for the PWM.



Way handier & easier to control than rotary dial.

darren996

Quote from: pob on December 09, 2015, 02:59:20 PM
When it's boiling you have the buttons (1&2) to decrease/increase % for the PWM. Way handier & easier to control than rotary dial.
Yeah a lot handier, thanks

McMelloW

The software is open source build by a number of different people. It is a bit difficult to do software support. You have to find it in forums etc.
Greetings McMelloW

IBU = I Brew in Utrecht
with a Grainfather and an Open ArdBir control box

Sorcerers Apprentice

Is it possible to operate as a PID controller and a PWM at the same time? I was hoping that I could throttle back the power to the RIMS heater using PWM while at the same time using the PID to control the mash temperature ?
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McMelloW

Quote from: Sorcerers Apprentice on December 09, 2015, 03:18:35 PM
Is it possible to operate as a PID controller and a PWM at the same time? I was hoping that I could throttle back the power to the RIMS heater using PWM while at the same time using the PID to control the mash temperature ?
In manual mode the PID switches to PWM when to set temperature is reached. And this set temperature is also within the boiling range. The PID / PWM output is send to the heat connection. You can find it in the manual
I don't think it is possible the way you want it.
Greetings McMelloW

IBU = I Brew in Utrecht
with a Grainfather and an Open ArdBir control box

Sorcerers Apprentice

Thanks McMelloW I'll send an email to Davide to see if he has any ideas
There's no such thing as bad beer - some just taste better than others

darren996

How are ye fellow ardbir builders going to mount the temp probe in your kettles?

McMelloW

Quote from: Sorcerers Apprentice on December 09, 2015, 03:45:55 PM
Thanks McMelloW I'll send an email to Davide to see if he has any ideas

I think you are talking about a multi vessel system. The Open Ardbir is for a single vessel system
Greetings McMelloW

IBU = I Brew in Utrecht
with a Grainfather and an Open ArdBir control box

pob

Quote from: Sorcerers Apprentice on December 09, 2015, 03:18:35 PM
Is it possible to operate as a PID controller and a PWM at the same time? I was hoping that I could throttle back the power to the RIMS heater using PWM while at the same time using the PID to control the mash temperature ?

In the Setup (hold for right button (4) for 4-5 secs)



> PID-PWM



> (7th click/step) Heat in Boil %, this will allow you to throttle back the power to the RIMS heater.



It then runs the PID as normal in your mash phase.

When you go to boil, you may need to increase power up for kettle elements to 100% to get to boil (& reduce if necessary to keep rolling boil)


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Sorcerers Apprentice

Thanks pob my intention is to ignore the pump outlet but switch the different elements via a selector switch and possibly use a stand alone PID for the HLT. This will allow me to heat the sparge seperately.
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Sorcerers Apprentice

Ps here's the response from Ardbir


Hi, I am Max, the code man.
The PWM control  is used on Boil, in the mash is used the PID control only around 4°C on SetPoint.
You can try to reduce the kP value on PID control or change the output value on the code.
There's no such thing as bad beer - some just taste better than others

darren996

Hi folks i am waiting on neutrik connectors, anyone know what size hole to drill for them