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[Bubbles]

stored in a campbell tea tin at room temp

sweet jesus... 

- Store hops in the fridge.
- Buy them only as you need, or as much as is practical, i.e. don't buy up a years worth at a time
- Recognise that once you open the bag, they start to deteriorate quicker (difficult to combat when you're brewing small batches, I know..)
- Use lots of hops in American styles like pale ale, IPA etc. It's pretty hard to overhop styles like this, so load the hops in. Just watch your IBUs?

Did you actually use any black pepper??

[Bubbles]

There is nothing wrong with using 2 year old hops if stored well, you just need shed loads, potentially double depending on variety.

Perhaps.. if you're talking about bitterness.. but what about flavour and aroma? Even if stored well, the 2 year old hops will have lost their punch.

[molc]

There is nothing wrong with using 2 year old hops if stored well, you just need shed loads, potentially double depending on variety.

Perhaps.. if you're talking about bitterness.. but what about flavour and aroma? Even if stored well, the 2 year old hops will have lost their punch.

An experiment of using 10 year old Williamette which led to pretty similar beers may be of interest here.
http://brulosophy.com/2015/09/28/the-impact-of-age-hops-exbeeriment-results/

It's a single data point, but interesting to add to the conversation nonetheless...

[phelixoflaherty]

Thanks for all tea help.

[Leann ull]

2 year old as in harvested Oct 14 pellet, vac packed and frozen used Nov 15 drunk jan 16, did you not see all those hops I threw out last year

[Bubbles]

did you not see all those hops I threw out last year

I did, and I shed a tear myself... 

[phelixoflaherty]

What if I blocked the ventilation holes in the tin?


Only kidding

[irish_goat]

I always use fresh hops. I threw out some 2014 hops there as I didn't want to risk using them in my competition entries. As Bubbles says, only buy what you need.

[SlugTrap]

In hammering home the freshness, let's not forget: needs more hops.

That recipe has, essentially, no late hops; therefore, no aroma/character/mojo.
I'd double the dose and triple the additions: 15g at 5min, 1min, and flameout.
Dry hopping optional.

[Eoin]

Hop age is not all it's cracked up to be lads.



http://brulosophy.com/2015/09/28/the-impact-of-age-hops-exbeeriment-results/

[Leann ull]

Would you bake bread with 3 year old flour? Don't answer that

[imark]

Would you bake bread with 3 year old flour? Don't answer that

If it was a lambic bread...

[nigel_c]

Wouldn't that just be a sour dough ? 

[Qs]

Hop age is not all it's cracked up to be lads.



http://brulosophy.com/2015/09/28/the-impact-of-age-hops-exbeeriment-results/

I like Brulosophy a lot but the more experiments they do the less convinced I get. They never seem to be able to tell the difference between anything. I know they don't claim to be proof and I appreciate their efforts but I've given up trusting their results much.

[armedcor]

Hop age is not all it's cracked up to be lads.



http://brulosophy.com/2015/09/28/the-impact-of-age-hops-exbeeriment-results/

I like Brulosophy a lot but the more experiments they do the less convinced I get. They never seem to be able to tell the difference between anything. I know they don't claim to be proof and I appreciate their efforts but I've given up trusting their results much.

Tbh I just take it to mean that a lot of the BS that Brewers spout as absolute truths is in fact BS.