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Corny set up

Started by Jamesbil, February 10, 2016, 10:59:44 PM

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Will_D

Quote from: ManseMasher on February 11, 2016, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: Will_D on February 11, 2016, 11:00:54 AM
It is in fact a low pressure gauge that has been marked with approximate flow rates at a given pressure.
So, it shows approximate flow rates then, not pressure?
No, It just shows pressure!
There is NO flow in a keg set up!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

ManseMasher

Then why is it marked in flow, not pressure? I don't see how the two equate? As you said, it depends on pipe bore etc, and an approximation of pressure is just that, an approximation, surely. I hope this doesn't sound antagonistic, it isn't meant to be, but I can't get it to add up. To me it's like having a fuel gauge that doesn't show quantity. And there must be flow in a keg setup, albeit not constant, otherwise wouldn't you end up eventually with a vacuum in the keg? I know when I use mine I occasionally have to top the keg up - doesn't that count as flow, when adding more gas?

Will_D

Because its meant to be used with a TIG/Mig welder where there is a continuous flow of gas.

It is a welding regulator after all!

Just buy a mixed gas reg or a CO2 reg.
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

ManseMasher

That makes sense thanks, and it goes back to my original response I guess, in that it isn't suitable for the OP's needs.

Jamesbil

So is a co2 regulator different to other gas regulators?
Manifolds would be universal though right?

Jamesbil

February 13, 2016, 09:18:51 AM #20 Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 09:38:02 AM by johnrm
All in one option?
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Or do I need different pressure for each keg as I plan on different beer in each?

Jamesbil

Also......
Lets say I have 3 kegs and one tap, to switch I have to turn off or remove the co2, release the pressure from the keg before disconnecting the beer line? Does the beer disconnect have a non return valve to stop what is in the line Returning to the keg or going all over the lace when I disconnect?

If I'm being good and it's a whole week between pints, is the beer in the line now flat and wasted?
Should I be keeping a keg full of starSan or similar for cleaning the line?

Does stout need a different pressure or different gas?

When it comes to carbonation,  can I just keg as I would a king keg with priming sugar and wait patiently or do I have to force carbonate?

Thanks all..

molc

No they are wicked disconnects, so they seal when you disconnect. There's a small drop that comes out when you change a line, but no need to worry about depressurising the keg.

They don't have a valve, more a spring loaded cut off to reseal when disconnected.

I only drink at the weekend and have no issue with the beer in the line, provided my lines aren't crazy warm. Heat makes the beer really foam when poured.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Jamesbil

Are the Home Brew Company disconnects better than the geterbrewed ones? They are on sale at €8.95 each at the moment.

Jamesbil

Also what size beer/gas line should I use?

Leann ull

3/8 is the most standard
5/16 for stout if you have proper reg and pub tank otherwise 3/8 is good for that too

Richie71

Quote from: Jamesbil on February 13, 2016, 09:18:51 AM
All in one option?
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Or do I need different pressure for each keg as I plan on different beer in each?

That's similar to the one I got from mybeerandwine a few years back and it works well for me.  I'd only have 2 taps on the go at one time though.  You don't need different pressure for each beer but it depends how fussy you are.  I find I like a similar amount of fizzyness for ales and stouts.  If I'm making ciders or lager I tend to bottle them anyway.  The biggest issue I've had with kegging is excess foaming so once I found a balance I tend not to mess with the pressure.  Flow control taps also help out here.  Have you got a fridge or freezer to store your kegs yet?  If not, i'd make that my first purchase as some of the other equipment you buy might depend on that.

I see from your other thread that you're from Ballina. If that's the one in Mayo, you're more than welcome to drop by and take a look at my set-up. Just send me a pm and we can sort something out.

Jamesbil

Thanks Richie.

I'm looking at a 10l corny, 2 co2 bottles, reg and tap for €80 plus delivery. All used. It that Ok.

Richie71

Quote from: Jamesbil on February 20, 2016, 09:25:42 AM
Thanks Richie.

I'm looking at a 10l corny, 2 co2 bottles, reg and tap for €80 plus delivery. All used. It that Ok.
Sounds ok to get you started but hard to say without seeing the equipment. 10l corny is handy to have if you brew 10l batches but you'll need a couple of 19l kegs to get the full benefits of kegging over bottling.  Co2 bottles - I take it they're at least 2kg and filled. Anything smaller won't last too long. Good quality taps, regulator and fittings will save you money and heartache in the long run.