Balancing out the strong clove flavour in a wheat beer

[cunnol]

I've got a wheat beer fermenting at 20 degrees, its down to 1012 so I had a taste, very strong clove flavour and no banana. Way too much clove for my liking. I was planning on dry hopping with Motueka but I'm also thinking of chucking in some orange zest too. Anybody have any tips on anything else I could 'dry hop' or whether I'm on the right track already?

Cheers

[darren996]

I normally put orange peel in 5 mins before end if boil, not sure it will add anything when fermenting. The clove will lessen, strong flavours in fermentation will lesson and the banana should be more pronounced. What yeast did you use?

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[LordEoin]

i wouldn't try hiding it. just let it mellow out.
next time ferment at a higher temperature if you want more banana and less clove

[cunnol]

Thanks lads, I used safale k-97. I poured the wort driectly onto the yeast cake from a previous batch just to see if it'd work. Then I heard how underpitching is best for wheat beers as the stressed yeast is what brings out those the typical wheat beer flavours...d'oh

[LordEoin]

K97 wouldn't be ideal for producing banana flavors anyway, it's quite a clean yeast.
if you want banana flavors try a hefeweizen yeast
for example wlp 300 or 368, or wb06.

To increase banana more, stress the yeast out.
Underpitch, barely aerate, ferment on the higher end of the yeast's recommended temperature range.
All of these things will make the yeast s**t itself and go bananas

[Leann ull]

Underpitch, barely aerate, ferment on the higher end of the yeast's recommended temperature range.
All of these things will make the yeast s**t itself and go bananas

Stone him for such blasphemy!
A speaker at Alltech presented a paper where they had a nano microphone recording beer yeast propagate. They played the sound recorded at 15 20 25 and 50 degrees C.
I kid you not the high pitched noise at 50 was like listening to somebody having their toenails pulled.
Yeast have feelings too

[LordEoin]

I'd like to hear that

[Leann ull]

Dogs in the neighbourhood were howling the pitch was so high

[fobster]

Say NO to lab testing on yeast!

I would like to hear it though 

[LordEoin]

apparently yeast are most active to this pitch.
Brings a whole new meaning to 'pitching yeast' 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33qV3d3U0q4

[fobster]

Play that on a set of speakers next to the fermenter like the Mozart for babies myth

[Leann ull]

I just talk to mine and sing along with the airlock, we all do that right?
https://youtu.be/gQFo3Lg2MAc

[LordEoin]

we need some airlock blues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ZEYMl9VIs

[DEMPSEY]

That was brill . Loved the way he played along with the water pump as it tapped out a beat

[fobster]

I just talk to mine and sing along with the airlock, we all do that right?
https://youtu.be/gQFo3Lg2MAc

I'm pretty sure I've hugged my fermenter once or twice, I'm a brewhugger