Home Made PBW

[Ryan]

best being careful with mistral

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17554173

[Leann ull]

Fooking hell Will!

[aweisse]

Vermelho and myself were making up our own "PBW" there. Mixing oxyclean with sodium metasilicate. 70:30 ratio. Really does the trick!

Ill give that a go in the new year.

[molc]

Chemicals and me have decided it's best we stay apart I'll stick with W5 oxi

[armedcor]

Vermelho and myself were making up our own "PBW" there. Mixing oxyclean with sodium metasilicate. 70:30 ratio. Really does the trick!

Ill give that a go in the new year.

Easiest way I found is buy the 1kg tubs of oxy pour out 300g then top back up to 1kg with sodium meta and give it a good mix. Works great definitely better than just W5

[Leann ull]

And eh where should one find sodium metasilicate should one be interested in such a thing, for eh experimental research as it looks potentially nasty stuff if not handled properly?
http://www.finishing.com/155/96.shtml

[armedcor]

Pretty sure I bought it on ebay but mistral have it as well. AFAIK pbw contains it in about the same ration as well. We're talking 300g in a kg of mix. I use quite a small amount in a gallon of water.

I also wear gloves when cleaning... Which I think everyone should... Even with standard pbw.

[DEMPSEY]

How big are the bags of pbw that the brewery's buy and any idea how much.

[molc]

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I also wear gloves when cleaning... Which I think everyone should... Even with standard pbw.

I love these things!
http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/blichmann-brewing-gloves-medium-p-2998.html

[cruiscinlan]

best being careful with mistral

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17554173

Thats 2012 though and they're still trading so they must have cleaned up their act.  Where were you getting the sodium metasilicate?

Armedcor I assume it was W5 you were mixing with the above?

[Leann ull]

I love these things!
http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/blichmann-brewing-gloves-medium-p-2998.html

These are fluffy on the inside aaaaaaahhhhhh
http://beesupplies.ie/product/rubber-gloves/

[armedcor]

best being careful with mistral

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17554173

Thats 2012 though and they're still trading so they must have cleaned up their act.  Where were you getting the sodium metasilicate?

Armedcor I assume it was W5 you were mixing with the above?

Yep plain ole w5. I've heard people adding in some citric acid as well but I've always just stuck with the w5 and sodium meta

[cruiscinlan]

I must give this a lash so. PBW works while cool as well doesn't it?  I've never used it myself but would be interested in trying a better/quicker cleaning agent.

[Ryan]

best being careful with mistral

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17554173

Thats 2012 though and they're still trading so they must have cleaned up their act.  Where were you getting the sodium metasilicate?

Armedcor I assume it was W5 you were mixing with the above?

You would hope so lol.  don't know what its like inside but the outside looks like a right shithole

[aweisse]

How big are the bags of pbw that the brewery's buy and any idea how much.

Ive seen large 25KG  buckets of pbw in the states for sale up to 50 gallon drums ,dont think we will see any of it over here due the transport cost.
Brewerys that i know of use liquid cleaners, Biocel is a big supplier in the Irish market http://www.biocel.ie/brewery-detergent
Smallest they have is 25L drums, for hombrewing ide prefer to be handeling a powder detergent than anything liquid just for safety.