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30 Plates Chiller from Geterbrewed *PROBLEM*

Started by Juliogdiana, August 30, 2017, 02:39:04 PM

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Juliogdiana

Hello guys,

Have anyone bought this chiller, https://www.geterbrewed.com/30-plate-wort-chiller-garden-hose-threaded-ports/

It is on good price at moment and I have ordered one.


I have used it last weekend for the first time and I don't know whats happen but my wort started come out with 45°C with my tap water at 9°C, then I had to reduce the wort flow by around 1 litre a minute and I still getting wort out at 25°C, at the end (23L) I had wort with 34°C on fermenter, had to put it on fridge to cool down before pitch the yeast.

My question is, anyone here have used this chiller before?

I had a DIY counter flow chiller coil that I have to reduce the tap water flow because the wort was getting too cold, but I ordered the plate one because it has with a good price and mine coil one is too bulky.

I have placed the inlet and outlet according to the image bellow.

I have contacted Geterbrewed but they never come back to me.


Boycott

I don't understand what your problem is. Your water flow rate needs to be slow enough to cool the wort and you need a big enough surface area in your chiller to get enough cooling. Obviously its not good enough for what you expected so you have to slow the speed of the wort flow.

Juliogdiana

Quote from: Boycott on August 30, 2017, 03:15:14 PM
I don't understand what your problem is. Your water flow rate needs to be slow enough to cool the wort and you need a big enough surface area in your chiller to get enough cooling. Obviously its not good enough for what you expected so you have to slow the speed of the wort flow.

My concern is because it wont work, simple like that, it doesnt do the job that it is supposed to do.

I dont think the water rate has to be slow to cool the wort, otherwise you will end up with warm water inside chiller.

I agree that the wort has to be slow, but slowest as 1L/minute? And even on that rate I have beer coming out at 23ºC and water going in at 9ºC, it cant be right.

I have seem many chiller plates working before and none are like that.

DEMPSEY

Is the flow good going through both sides. have a valve at both of the exits will allow you to throttle back the flow from each side and that might help.
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dcalnan

Are you recirculating the cooled wort back to the kettle first?

Juliogdiana

Quote from: DEMPSEY on August 30, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
Is the flow good going through both sides. have a valve at both of the exits will allow you to throttle back the flow from each side and that might help.

Yes, the flow is ok, doesnt seem to have blockage, I have valves on both sides, but water is always full and i had to close the wort more then half.

I dont know but i am disappointed with this plate, doesnt work.

Juliogdiana

Quote from: dcalnan on August 30, 2017, 07:36:01 PM
Are you recirculating the cooled wort back to the kettle first?

No, I am sending direct to fermenter, I cant recirculate as I whirlpool before to have the hop cone formed at middle, if I do recirculate will mix everything again.

I think be better to come back to my coil chiller and get way with this new one.

kev

If your cooling water is 9degrees and wort is just below boiling then I would expect to have to throttle the wort flow back quite a bit to get it to 20C

Mossy

Can you send the wort back into the the kettle through the whirlpool arm? That's what I do.

Juliogdiana

Quote from: Mossy on August 30, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
Can you send the wort back into the the kettle through the whirlpool arm? That's what I do.

I dont have whirlpool arm, I just do it spinning the paddle around my boiler

Juliogdiana

Quote from: kev on August 30, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
If your cooling water is 9degrees and wort is just below boiling then I would expect to have to throttle the wort flow back quite a bit to get it to 20C

Yes that is what I did but I am not happy doing that, on my coil chiller I had to close the water as my wort was getting too cold.

I bought this one thinking it will make a good and efficient job but it have disappointed me.

dcalnan

Most plate chillers are meant for recirculating the wort, for what you want to achieve with only one pass through the chiller I don't think the 30 plates will do it, so something like a 50 plate chiller would be more suitable.

Or if you had a submersible wort chiller hook that up to your water hose and put it in a bucket with ice to get it to a lower temperature.

darren996

I have the brewferm 36 plate chiller and it will chill in one pass from a gravity feed.  It can cool 25 litres into fermenter at 20 degrees in under 10 minutes.  The more you throttle back the flow to fermenter the colder it will be.  And always ensure you turn off your kettle elements when chilling, sounds silly but I have made that mistake.



36 plates might be the key.  I prefer to recirc with it though.

If I was buying another chiller I would look for a longer plate arrangement as this gives more surface area, but I am very happy with mine.