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East Coast American Pale Ale

Started by mick02, October 10, 2018, 03:43:42 PM

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mick02

Quote from: molc on October 11, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: mick02 on October 11, 2018, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: molc on October 11, 2018, 12:47:57 PM
Well up for it, but I'd have a few tweaks for malt and yeast based on what's to hand and brewing schedule. Wouldn't exactly be faithful to the original recipe but same broad strokes

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Done! When is your next available brew date? I'll see if I can brew roughly around the same time.
Was planning a Baltic Porter 27th October but could easily slot this in instead :D

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I was also planning a Baltic Porter myself in the not too distant future. In fairness I purchased the ingredients for it back in March and still haven't done it so who knows if it will ever happen!
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molc

Quote from: mick02 on October 11, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: molc on October 11, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: mick02 on October 11, 2018, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: molc on October 11, 2018, 12:47:57 PM
Well up for it, but I'd have a few tweaks for malt and yeast based on what's to hand and brewing schedule. Wouldn't exactly be faithful to the original recipe but same broad strokes

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Done! When is your next available brew date? I'll see if I can brew roughly around the same time.
Was planning a Baltic Porter 27th October but could easily slot this in instead :D

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I was also planning a Baltic Porter myself in the not too distant future. In fairness I purchased the ingredients for it back in March and still haven't done it so who knows if it will ever happen!
Yup that's how mine is going as well. Been planning it for about a year!

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Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

molc

Here's what I'll go with - basically splitting the hops in two, and using the yeast and grain I have to hand. Essence should be roughly the same though :)
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

mick02

Quote from: molc on October 12, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
Here's what I'll go with - basically splitting the hops in two, and using the yeast and grain I have to hand. Essence should be roughly the same though :)
Perfect. I will be interested in seeing and tasting the differences between them
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pob

Quote from: molc on October 12, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
Here's what I'll go with - basically splitting the hops in two, and using the yeast and grain I have to hand. Essence should be roughly the same though :)
Is that 1 day dry hop day after ferment starts or day before kegging?

molc

1 Day before starting to crash for kegging - so probably 2 days total contact time. I try to turn the whole thing around in about 10 days. I throw everything in loose and then just crash it with the airlock sealed to keep O2 out.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

fishjam45 (Colin)

Great post as always Mick.

I've been toying with different methods of late hop additions myself and how to get the best utilisation from them.  The hop spider seemed a good idea at the time but I've stopped using it, I felt I didn't get as much from the hops as when they were in direct contact with the wort loose in the boiler. Does anybody use a spider for larger hop bills?

Mick did you mean that you physically attach a muslin bag to your paddle when whirpooling?

What I've been doing lately for my flameout addition is dropping the temperature of the wort to 80, adding the hops and then stirring for a few minutes.  When everything appears to have settled in the boiler I'll turn on the pump and recirc into the boiler until the wort starts to run clear.  I've had issues with a lot of hop matter getting into the FV also so this approach kind of kills 2 birds with 1 stone - best hop utilisation and clearer wort into the FV.



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delzep

Use your hop spider as a filter when pumping from the kettle to the fv. It's the only way I use mine

Pheeel

Haven't used my spider in months. Felt it was having a negative impact. Went back to hop bags again!
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mick02

Quote from: fishjam45 (Colin) on October 13, 2018, 10:11:51 AM
Great post as always Mick.

I've been toying with different methods of late hop additions myself and how to get the best utilisation from them.  The hop spider seemed a good idea at the time but I've stopped using it, I felt I didn't get as much from the hops as when they were in direct contact with the wort loose in the boiler. Does anybody use a spider for larger hop bills?

Mick did you mean that you physically attach a muslin bag to your paddle when whirpooling?

What I've been doing lately for my flameout addition is dropping the temperature of the wort to 80, adding the hops and then stirring for a few minutes.  When everything appears to have settled in the boiler I'll turn on the pump and recirc into the boiler until the wort starts to run clear.  I've had issues with a lot of hop matter getting into the FV also so this approach kind of kills 2 birds with 1 stone - best hop utilisation and clearer wort into the FV.
I've gone back and forth with my kettle hopping. I used to just add them to the kettle loose but found I was constantly getting blockages in the filter when chilling to the FV so I then moved to using nylon bags in the kettle. What I do is wrap the draw string of the nylon bag around the bottom of my mash paddle and stir the wort. At least I feel like I'm getting more utilisation from the hops. I also think that agitating the hops in the fermenter helps with aroma.
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molc

I still use my spider with my big kettle and dont really notice a difference between using it and not tbh. Might just be me tohugh - everyone else seems to find a difference
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Qs

Quote from: delzep on October 13, 2018, 10:16:03 AM
Use your hop spider as a filter when pumping from the kettle to the fv. It's the only way I use mine

I tried that and it caught nothing.

Vermelho

Quote from: molc on October 13, 2018, 12:19:42 PM
I still use my spider with my big kettle and dont really notice a difference between using it and not tbh. Might just be me tohugh - everyone else seems to find a difference

I'm in the same bot as you molc, works pretty good for me!

molc

October 25, 2018, 10:18:15 AM #43 Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 12:41:21 PM by molc
Going to do this at the weekend. Took my three month old Hazy Daze that I had kept back from a previous overbuild and put on a 2L starter Tuesday night before bed; looks to be pretty much done this morning so will split and crash tonight to be ready for Saturday.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

mick02

Quote from: molc on October 25, 2018, 10:18:15 AM
Going to do this at the weekend. Took my three month old Hazy Daze that I had kept back from a previous overbuild and put on a 2L starter; looks to be pretty much done this morning so will split and crash tonight to be ready for Saturday.
I'll be going for it this weekend too
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