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Membership fee for the NHBC

Started by Rossa, April 02, 2013, 09:52:30 AM

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Rossa

QuoteI think its great to be adding incentives for members, such as discounts at the NHBC events and with homebrew suppliers.

I'd be wary of suggestions that seem to penalize non members.

It's my opinion that most active members would pay the membership fee without any incentives or discounts, because what they are already getting out of the club is worth more than a tenner a year.

There are alot of new homebrewers out there all the time, and I think it is important for the NHC to be a welcoming place for them, in order for the club to grow.

If it was up to me the only difference between members and non members would be a discount for members (For NHC events, from whatever homebrew companies, and for groupbuys)

I wouldn't restrict anything from non members (restricted forums, restricted buying / selling privileges, blocked from participating in groupbuys) as it creates an us and them clique, in my opinion. As I said above, when new members become more active and see how valuable a resource the club is they will have no problem paying.


We certainly want to be open to new brewers and be a resource for beginners. That won't change and I think, through the clubs,  we will be encouraging newbies with demos etc.

Ciderhead

April 03, 2013, 05:58:25 PM #31 Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 06:07:44 PM by Ciderhead
Quote

I wouldn't restrict anything from non members (restricted forums, restricted buying / selling privileges, blocked from participating in groupbuys) as it creates an us and them clique, in my opinion. As I said above, when new members become more active and see how valuable a resource the club is they will have no problem paying.


No other organisation offers HB group buys on the scale of the NHC, not even our closest neighbours.

Non members cannot have the same deal as members in Group buys.

If we are offering a product at cost or close to cost this will not be offered to non members under the same terms.
Ask any of the group buy organisers why they bothered and all bar none will say to you to get a better deal for a product I wanted and for the benefit of the NHC at no personal financial risk.

Where is the incentive for use of the clubs bank account and goodwill of the facilatators to non members :(

Group buys will be offered to non members in the public area where making up the numbers is required and they will be attractive enough but significantly more than the price paid by members which will at cost or just over.

All Non members will be able to see the for sale section but wont be able to post there unless they are members.

You are absolutely right we are building a clique but I would prefer to use the term brotherhood or sisterhood! and hardly a day goes by when I don't see one of the posters on here going above and beyond the call with an offer of support or sharing something.

So as not to alienate new non members and I am guessing over 90% of the site will still be accessible.

Our only source of income is membership not banners or advertising as how could we be impartial in our comments about a product or service relevant to our hobby if we have heavyweight sponsors.


delzep

Who will choose (or who currently chooses) what is being bought in the group buys?

Ciderhead

April 03, 2013, 06:09:52 PM #33 Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 06:12:52 PM by Ciderhead
QuoteWho will choose (or who currently chooses) what is being bought in the group buys?

You do!, what do you need? can it be bought in bulk? how much will you save with volumes?
The group buys as I said above are usually initiated by the person looking to save money in the first instance use the NHC forum as the means for gauging interest, list of purchasers, collecting monies and ensuring delivery is facilitated. 

The epics have been

Corny kegs
Grain
Hops
Cider Juice
Conicals
Grain mills

what have i left out :-[



delzep

Ah ok. So is there a minimum amount of interest required per group buy for it to be considered. For example if I wanted a particular item and only 2 other people are interested will the idea be shelved?

Ciderhead

April 03, 2013, 06:14:08 PM #35 Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 06:17:21 PM by Ciderhead
not always, but you obviously wont get the same discount from the vendor even though there are only 3 of you. Its up to you to decide if you want to drive it forward.

We have not had one group buy here that hasn't been oversubscribed :) and plenty of "please sir can I have some more" why? cos its cheap and we are all tight ;D

johnrm

Quote...even though there are only 3 of you.
...other than the grain mill Group Buy.  :-*

DEMPSEY

Group buys will be for members. If a group buy needs some extras to fill it then either the club will buy in to sell the item later or we offer it to a non member. The epic corney buy eas so good but some people availed of it and never came back or said "thanks for saving me a bunch of money". :(.
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Ciderhead

April 03, 2013, 07:25:00 PM #38 Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 07:29:15 PM by Ciderhead
QuoteGroup buys will be for members. If a group buy needs some extras to fill it then either the club will buy in to sell the item later or we offer it to a non member. The epic corney buy eas so good but some people availed of it and never came back or said "thanks for saving me a bunch of money". :(.


Not feeling the love there Dempsey?, you had their children and they just issed off, all men are bar stewards.

Dempseys were 15 and never to be repeated but Shanna also did a cracker and got grade A tested with new rubbers 45, still saving 20 on retail :)

I guess summary is anybody thats out for themselves is not what NHC is about, we are not a "cheap retailer", we are a club made up of committed volunteers trying to help each other out in at all levels of brewing in whatever way we can.

RichC

Any chance the forums going Tapatalk friendly?

Ciderhead

QuoteAny chance the forums going Tapatalk friendly?

I know that was one of the requirements from switching away from current Yabb, only Mettatron, JimmyM or Johnrm can answer that question

Rossa

QuoteAny chance the forums going Tapatalk friendly?

I think that is the plan.

RichC

Great, all my frequently used forums in one app!!!! Except hbt

JimmyM

Yep the new forum will be tapatalk compatible - one of the main drivers.
Formerly JamesM.

Will_D

In a nutshell: "what is tapatalk"?
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