Grain Dryer

[MrChalky]

Sounds hot. Where exactly were you?
And don't take any of what I say as fact. That's just what I came across while searching the web about it, and as we all know, sometimes the internet lies!

[JimmyM]

Jaysus yas kept that little trip quiet lasd!!
I wanna go do the next pick up

[Ciderhead]

Germinating the barley. It stays in here for 5 days.

Temperature at the bottom was 16, air is forced through from bottom up, and temperature at the top is 19 as obviously grain germenation generates heat!

The arm doesn't move the ENTIRE floor rotates

[Ciderhead]

That was actually the kiln we were in.

crappity smack me was it hot. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.

Vital stats 36 24 32 no not that kind as obviously tube and dempsey still have their tongues hanging out and eyeballs on stalks. Nothing proprietary here btw.

Gas and electricity bill runs to 7 figures every year and yes they do use heat exchangers
Each Grain silos out the back hold between 500 and 750mt, there are 12
Plant runs 365 days of the year
Entire operation run by staff of 12
Walls of kiln 1.5 metres thick
Heat transfer mechanism used with superheated steam at 138 degrees c to kiln rather than direct gas
Process is totally chemical free just local water a proprietary part is recirculated
Air also mixed with percentage of external air
Run at night for cheaper energy costs
Entire process totally automated and can run on its own unattended!
Significant quantiies of product already heading to homebrewers in US currently in Bulk and rebagged over there. This will be done in Cork at some point.

Makes you proud to be Irish seeing an operation like this producing premier product,
Can't  wait to make my first true Irish grain PA.

[Ciderhead]

From what I understand, 50 - 60C would be way too high for drying. I think it needs to be between 30 - 40C. Then the temperature is upped to kiln the malt. The temperature of kilning depends on the type of malt you want.

When we were in the kiln the malt was being cured as far as I remember. Not sure exactly what that means. But it was seriously hot and hard to breath.

The grain entering the kiln has high moisture content, they commence drying at 30 rising up to max 78-80 increasing slowly and drawing off the moisture over 2-3 days.
I had been exposed to 50 in the Middle East before, this was 78 but  at force 5 that was so hot you had to turn your back to it to protect your face.
From initial wash to finished grain takes between 7-8 days depending on the specification

[newToBrew]

so.. about 2 - 3 years ago I looked into home brewing an d thought - nah its a bit advanced for me - then about a year or so ago found out a work buddy was into it - he brought me to his house one night for an extract brew and we went to the homebrewcompanies AG demo and I came away from that hooked - then went onto beoir and from beoir to here and club meetings  -

since then I have upped my game to kegging and from daily browsing of this site - things have become normalised for me to the point that it seems absolutley reasonable to get a fridge - drill the crap out of it and stick taps on the door

it wasn't until I brought a keg to my mates party and poured pints to comments of thats quiet a serious set up, tha I reaslised how normalised this hobby (obession) has become for me - but I have to say from reading this post  alone, you guys are nucking futs !! I love it !!

when is the NBHC National Club tour being organised !!!

[Will_D]

Well all I can say is 'T'anks a nothing' for not inviting the club photographer/chemist/bio chemical nerdy grandad/one who has home malted/one who just "lourves" hot steamy places(!!!)/etc.

However back to reality!, probably could not have got the day off from the Missess.

Full Fecking marks tho' to the 3 of ye brave soldiers of the revolution in Irish Home Brewing for building a MAJOR bridge head into a local Irish supllier.

Now, once they have established the bagging line for the base malts  ,

We pop down again for the 25 kg bags ( but I would prefer they do 10 or 12.5 kg bags as they get used quicker and hence fresher )

And then we hit them with a suggestion:

Our Will has a "tricked-up" tumble drier that can roast and toast malts and make all sorts off speciality (non diastatic) malts!

So how about a "Cara-Cork" or a "Roasted Liscarroll Chocholate Malt"

"We can but Dream"

I would like them to malt local Wheat and Rye as well!!

Sure If ye' don't asl ye' don't get

[DEMPSEY]

That was actually the kiln we were in.

crappity smack me was it hot. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.

Vital stats 36 24 32 no not that kind as obviously tube and dempsey still have their tongues hanging out and eyeballs on stalks. Nothing proprietary here btw.

Gas and electricity bill runs to 7 figures every year and yes they do use heat exchangers
Each Grain silos out the back hold between 500 and 750mt, there are 12
Plant runs 365 days of the year
Entire operation run by staff of 12
Walls of kiln 1.5 metres thick
Heat transfer mechanism used with superheated steam at 138 degrees c to kiln rather than direct gas
Process is totally chemical free just local water a proprietary part is recirculated
Air also mixed with percentage of external air
Run at night for cheaper energy costs
Entire process totally automated and can run on its own unattended!
Significant quantiies of product already heading to homebrewers in US currently in Bulk and rebagged over there. This will be done in Cork at some point.

Makes you proud to be Irish seeing an operation like this producing premier product,
Can't  wait to make my first true Irish grain PA.
                                

Ciderhead and Tube listened carefully to the facts and stats while I watched all the lovely shiny things spinning around and around and ooh look at this swivelly thing.

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[Ciderhead]

That was actually the kiln we were in.

crappity smack me was it hot. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.

Vital stats 36 24 32 no not that kind as obviously tube and dempsey still have their tongues hanging out and eyeballs on stalks. Nothing proprietary here btw.

Gas and electricity bill runs to 7 figures every year and yes they do use heat exchangers
Each Grain silos out the back hold between 500 and 750mt, there are 12
Plant runs 365 days of the year
Entire operation run by staff of 12
Walls of kiln 1.5 metres thick
Heat transfer mechanism used with superheated steam at 138 degrees c to kiln rather than direct gas
Process is totally chemical free just local water a proprietary part is recirculated
Air also mixed with percentage of external air
Run at night for cheaper energy costs
Entire process totally automated and can run on its own unattended!
Significant quantiies of product already heading to homebrewers in US currently in Bulk and rebagged over there. This will be done in Cork at some point.

Makes you proud to be Irish seeing an operation like this producing premier product,
Can't  wait to make my first true Irish grain PA.
                                

Ciderhead and Tube listened carefully to the facts and stats while I watched all the lovely shiny things spinning around and around and ooh look at this swivelly thing.

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I did remember all the stats for amounts of air and their costs but not appropriate I post them on a public website.

[Ciderhead]

Not sure where you got the 35 tonnes, with each batch 2 days in the kiln, thats only 6kt per annum, the number was 250-300Mt per kiln batch and we had err ...0.0001% of that couple of days run 
From small acorns

[Ciderhead]

Their output is 30,000 mt p/a. Were we told 250-300 mt per batch or are you working back to that figure?

We weren't told it but batch size was written on the QC sheet before we went onto kiln, and there were 4 other entries there, nuff talk now about their specifics as its proprietary info and not for public domain. 

[Ciderhead]

 

[DEMPSEY]

you guys are nucking futs !! I love it !!
!!!

Why thank you,we do try so hard,N.B. Can I call apon you in the future as a court witness should I break some silly rule or so,it is a defence that I would like to use and having a witness stand up and give testomy
such as yours would help sway a judge in my favour.

[newToBrew]

 
hey Dempsey - stick me up as a defense witness and they'll throw away the key on ya before I even say a word  !!!!!