Natural Gas in the shed?

[imark]

Just wondering if it's possible to get the shed kitted out with a natural gas supply? Considering replacing my poxy garden shed with some bricks and mortar and possibly fitting out as a brew haven. In order of importance electricity, plumbed water/drainage, gas. Is it even worth considering?

[JimmyM]

Yeah - i dont think there's anything stopping you from having your gas line terminated in your shed at a gas hob say for instance. As long as its permanent (i.e. rubber tubing is out) you should be ok from a gas regs point of view.

However, Not sure what that does to your shed in terms of planning. Does it stop being a shed then? I "think" you may need to apply for a change of use. and "I think" the same idea applies if you stick a shower and a jax in there - thats where im coming from.

[johnrm]

Have a look at these lads...
http://www.bullfinch-gas.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=16&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

[JimmyM]

The structure shall not be used for human habitation or for the keeping of pigs, poultry, pigeons, ponies or horses, or for any other purpose other than a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the house as such.

From here - http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2001/en/si/0600.html#part2 under exempt structures

You're probably alright re planning - i suppose someone could argue if you have gas in there its being used for "human habitation" but you can hit them with that well trodden line "its incidental to the enjoyment of the house - now piss off!"

[JimmyM]

An RGI installer wouldn't give a shite about planning regs. All he's concerned about is that his install meets the gas regs.

Yeah i know that - but the RGI installer isnt the one who should be concerned its our dearest imark who should

hang on!!
Does this mean i cant keep chickens out my back without PP?

[JimmyM]

Haha true!
But the last time i had cattle eggs i had the shits for a week!

[johnrm]

Doesn't Bono have rights to graze sheep on Stephens Green?

[JimmyM]

Yeah - thats what ya get with the freedom of the city.
but his application to run a natural gas line from the shelbourne was refused.
(back on topic )

[imark]

Jaysus....cattle eggs! 

[imark]

Gas to the shed: Whats involve? 1) Planning question, 2) Permanent burner, 3?

[johnrm]

Whats wrong with an LPG hookup?
LPG is Propane or Butane...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_petroleum_gas

[imark]

I've got natural gas in the house. It doesn't run out and it's cheaper. So I was thinking...why not use that?

Also, asking myself why I didn't buy a house with a garage.

[Padraic]

I've got natural gas in the house. It doesn't run out and it's cheaper. So I was thinking...why not use that?

Also, asking myself why I didn't buy a house with a garage.

Electricity is even cheaper!

[JimmyM]

Is it?
Depends how they are used. i.e. how efficient the appliance is theyre feeding.

[imark]

I like boiling on gas as a (maybe irrational) preference. I think cost is something like 1 x electric = 2 x NG = 8 x Butane. I may be wrong on that though. But I'd go electric over bottles at that rate. Otherwise I'd like my NG.

In terms of fitted gas burners, would those ones on gasproducts.co.uk should be ok? Like this http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/5__Single_Natural_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html