Natural Gas in the shed?

[Will_D]

In the UK I have seen mains gas quick fit/release fittings. This means that if you buy a new NG cooker you just push and twist the cooker connector into the wall mounted socket to connect your new gas cooker.

I would:

1. Ask a Registered Gas Installer about the install.

2. Talk to you insurance company

These two points are what really matter!

1. Will dictate thats its a basically a safe installation

2. Just ensures that if you F**k up somehow the neighbours are protected and cannot sue the A**se off of you.

[imark]

So cost wise bottle not in same league I'd assumed. Thought the cost was ~7 a brew on the bottle. Might mean pipework etc doesn't justify cost of ng. Worth considering.

Would insurance really be different on bottle over tap? A fire's a fire. Would this require specific specification to insurance? How is gas in a garage different?

Is nobody else doing this?

[Will_D]

Would insurance really be different on bottle over tap? A fire's a fire. Would this require specific specification to insurance? How is gas in a garage different?

Just to answer the question:

Most Propane BBQs/Burners/WHY state "Not to be used indoors"! So if you use one in the house and it goes TitsUp - You loose!

Propane in a garage? difficult take - However an insurance company will explore every thread/loophole/wormhole to wriggle out of liability.

If your exploding garage takes out your house then no way will they cover it. The neighbours would probably be covered by the 3rd party logic or their own insurance BUT beter to be safe than sorry!

[imark]

I know where you're  coming from regarding the insurance wiggle room. Can't see how electric fires are any different to gas fire at end of the day though. Appreciate they'd do you for misuse. Would imagine a properly certified installation is kosher with insurance.

[Will_D]

Electric fires cannot explode!

Some domestic gas explosions can take out 3 houses or worse:

Ronan Point was a 23-story council tower block in Newham, east London. On 16 May 1968 a gas explosion caused the collapse of a whole corner of the building. Four people were killed in the collapse, with one dying later of injuries.

[Padraic]

Electric fires cannot explode!

Some domestic gas explosions can take out 3 houses or worse:

Ronan Point was a 23-story council tower block in Newham, east London. On 16 May 1968 a gas explosion caused the collapse of a whole corner of the building. Four people were killed in the collapse, with one dying later of injuries.

Gas is against the rules in my apartment building. (probably for that reason)

@tube, is it really 1.5 percent more expensive to use electricity? (is that kw v kw?)

[donnchadhc]

Electric fires cannot explode!

Some domestic gas explosions can take out 3 houses or worse:

Ronan Point was a 23-story council tower block in Newham, east London. On 16 May 1968 a gas explosion caused the collapse of a whole corner of the building. Four people were killed in the collapse, with one dying later of injuries.

OFF TOPIC
Ah, Ronan Point was to do with inadequate structural redundancies in the buildings design not the actual fire itself. The "explosion" only compromised one wall panel (not even the whole wall) which caused a chain reaction that led to the collapse. Building codes were changed so that this kind of thing couldn't happen again.

The main danger from Gas is Carbon Monoxide. You need to make sure there is enough fresh air coming in (either mechanically or naturally. An open window won't do it!) to ensure there is no build up.

[JimmyM]

In the UK I have seen mains gas quick fit/release fittings. This means that if you buy a new NG cooker you just push and twist the cooker connector into the wall mounted socket to connect your new gas cooker.

Wouldn't that imply a rubber tube?
These arent allowed anymore. I know this because someone (not sure whether it was insurance lad or a Bord gais kinda guy) came out to the in-laws to assess the gas installations.
The gas hob is connected with a rubber tube - he said this is no longer up to code and would have to be replaced with permanent copper.

[Will_D]

If rubber is now a no-no then a coil of copper or the corrugated stainless-steel flexitube would give the required flexibility for a QR fitting.

However this is me being logical and or engineering a solution to a 'ElfnSafety' non-issue!

[DEMPSEY]

Rubber must have being banned for a while. My house is all natural gas and built in 1999,all had connections are copper.

[DEMPSEY]

I use an electric oven and a gas hob. Hob fitted with copper also have a real flame fire also fitted using  copper.