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Out of date White Labs yeast:

Started by Hop Bomb, August 01, 2013, 10:31:02 AM

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Hop Bomb

Ive an Irish Ale vial thats use by was May 13.  In mr.malty that gives me a viability rate of 10%.
It says I need 3 vials & 1.5 litre starter (slider set to: larger starter fewer yeast packs)

Has anyone grown a starter with an out of date vial? Ive just got one vial. How would that do in a 2 litre starter? (OG of the planned beer is 1.040)

Thanks.
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

Eoin

August 01, 2013, 10:49:58 AM #1 Last Edit: August 01, 2013, 11:01:44 AM by Eoin
Quote from: Hop Bomb on August 01, 2013, 10:31:02 AM
Ive an Irish Ale vial thats use by was May 13.  In mr.malty that gives me a viability rate of 10%.
It says I need 3 vials & 1.5 litre starter (slider set to: larger starter fewer yeast packs)

Has anyone grown a starter with an out of date vial? Ive just got one vial. How would that do in a 2 litre starter? (OG of the planned beer is 1.040)

Thanks.

I used the same yeast which was majorly out of date recently, it was out since Feb.
I grew a one gallon starter and used that. I didn't use the calculator, I just grew a big starter.

<edit> I brew to 60l, so a gallon normally covers me, I reckon more yeast is normally better and work on the principal that I will never massively overpitch.

Ciderhead

Quote from: Hop Bomb on August 01, 2013, 10:31:02 AM
Ive an Irish Ale vial thats use by was May 13.  In mr.malty that gives me a viability rate of 10%.
It says I need 3 vials & 1.5 litre starter (slider set to: larger starter fewer yeast packs)

Has anyone grown a starter with an out of date vial? Ive just got one vial. How would that do in a 2 litre starter? (OG of the planned beer is 1.040)

Thanks.

Done it loads of times, Mr Malty is theoretical,
On the practical I brought an 8 month expired WL back to life just for the hell of it, I didn't use it but tasted the starter and it was fine.
I recommend you chuck into a 1 Litre starter which to be honest is loads for that gravity or if you want to be sure a 2 stage, 1 litre to bring it back to life and 2Litres to get up to speed
With o2 in it you will have no problem :)

Partridge9

+1

If you make a starter you are grand -

Think about it - to make a 2 litre starter you need 1/10th the yeast of a 20litre batch

So if your vial is 10% viable - thats spot on !

Hop Bomb

On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

Rossa

Just start it off small and it'll be fine.