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Started by baphomite51, October 06, 2013, 08:54:22 PM

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baphomite51

Can someone give me a quick low down on electric like cost and set up iv got a 33L stock pot from the homebrew company. I do BIAB brewing and do anything from 6 litres up to 18 the thing that reacted me to gas was how cheap it was the burner is only 40 euro delivered and I have the other gear that's needed.  Cheers

Jacob

Quote from: RichC on November 04, 2013, 03:31:56 AM

Quote from: CH on November 03, 2013, 11:17:18 PM
Don't understand why you would even consider using a portable gas appliance indoors, it's an accident just waiting to happen.
Please some other brewers that brew indoors advise IR how you do it with electricity.
+1
Gas leak outdoors- wind will disperse it, gas leak indoors-BANG!
Also CO poisoning, and all the other possibilities of causing a fire. I brew electric, wouldn't do it any other way indoors
Brewing inside (in the kitchen) on butane with no problems. However, good ventilation is a must.

Ciderhead

loads of info on forum about gas v's electricity, ie like gas costs twice as much to run, have a rummage.
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,3213.msg38995.html#msg38995
Consider membership as well!

Hop Bomb

Ive one of those 8.8kw boiler rings from Hamilton Gas. Great control on it & once you get to a boil it takes very little gas/flame to keep it there. My better half is getting me a blichmann burner for xmas though. Going off the reviews they are super efficient & very fast & powerful.

If you decide to go gas Id suggest going electric for your HLT. Stick an stc1000 temp controller on it & it'll make your brew day so much easier as you wont overshoot your temps like you would on gas.  Your gas tank will last so much longer as you are only using it for the boil.
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

baphomite51

Quote from: Hop Bomb on November 04, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
Ive one of those 8.8kw boiler rings from Hamilton Gas. Great control on it & once you get to a boil it takes very little gas/flame to keep it there. My better half is getting me a blichmann burner for xmas though. Going off the reviews they are super efficient & very fast & powerful.

If you decide to go gas Id suggest going electric for your HLT. Stick an stc1000 temp controller on it & it'll make your brew day so much easier as you wont overshoot your temps like you would on gas.  Your gas tank will last so much longer as you are only using it for the boil.

i think im gonna go gas for now the burner is only 40 quid ill give it a go ill most likely be using it in the warmer months outside anyway if i dont like how it works indoors.

im a bit lost with your post tho hop bomb, whats HLT why would you overshoot with gas and is there much work in riging up the stc100 is that the same one people use for fermentation chambers?

johnrm


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Hop Bomb

Quote from: irishrover32 on November 04, 2013, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on November 04, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
Ive one of those 8.8kw boiler rings from Hamilton Gas. Great control on it & once you get to a boil it takes very little gas/flame to keep it there. My better half is getting me a blichmann burner for xmas though. Going off the reviews they are super efficient & very fast & powerful.

If you decide to go gas Id suggest going electric for your HLT. Stick an stc1000 temp controller on it & it'll make your brew day so much easier as you wont overshoot your temps like you would on gas.  Your gas tank will last so much longer as you are only using it for the boil.

i think im gonna go gas for now the burner is only 40 quid ill give it a go ill most likely be using it in the warmer months outside anyway if i dont like how it works indoors.

im a bit lost with your post tho hop bomb, whats HLT why would you overshoot with gas and is there much work in riging up the stc100 is that the same one people use for fermentation chambers?

On gas for the hot liquor tank Id always over shoot my target temps as Id be busy milling grain or weighing hops etc & forget to turn the gas off. Then Id have to wait for it to cool or add cold water to reduce the temp. With the stc 1000 & an electric element you can set your desired water temp for your strike water or sparge water. The stc1000 will control your element & hold the water at your desired temp. Big time saver.
On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

baphomite51

Quote from: Hop Bomb on November 04, 2013, 06:24:10 PM
Quote from: irishrover32 on November 04, 2013, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on November 04, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
Ive one of those 8.8kw boiler rings from Hamilton Gas. Great control on it & once you get to a boil it takes very little gas/flame to keep it there. My better half is getting me a blichmann burner for xmas though. Going off the reviews they are super efficient & very fast & powerful.

If you decide to go gas Id suggest going electric for your HLT. Stick an stc1000 temp controller on it & it'll make your brew day so much easier as you wont overshoot your temps like you would on gas.  Your gas tank will last so much longer as you are only using it for the boil.



i think im gonna go gas for now the burner is only 40 quid ill give it a go ill most likely be using it in the warmer months outside anyway if i dont like how it works indoors.

im a bit lost with your post tho hop bomb, whats HLT why would you overshoot with gas and is there much work in riging up the stc100 is that the same one people use for fermentation chambers?

On gas for the hot liquor tank Id always over shoot my target temps as Id be busy milling grain or weighing hops etc & forget to turn the gas off. Then Id have to wait for it to cool or add cold water to reduce the temp. With the stc 1000 & an electric element you can set your desired water temp for your strike water or sparge water. The stc1000 will control your element & hold the water at your desired temp. Big time saver.

ah rit i get ya now, the problem is can u use an element with biab is there not a possibility the element will damage the bag

Gar

You can get boilers with the element covered...

With an electric boiler and an stc controller - could you use your boiler as your mash tun by setting the required temperature on the controller?

brenmurph

Quote from: Jacob on October 06, 2013, 09:55:27 PM
8.8kw - ~45l and no problems with good boil.



Are u using this burner jacob? if so is that the one for about 40 euros from gasproducts.ie?

and if that so it is good enough for us busy brewers? or would u recomend something  better?

Jacob

Quote from: brenmurph on November 24, 2013, 08:36:05 AM
Are u using this burner jacob? if so is that the one for about 40 euros from gasproducts.ie?

and if that so it is good enough for us busy brewers? or would u recomend something  better?
Yes, that's the one I have. Had no problems with it for over two years and would strongly recommend it!
Got it from gasproducts.co.uk. However currently looking for a blichmann one :P

Will_D

Quote from: Jacob on November 24, 2013, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: brenmurph on November 24, 2013, 08:36:05 AM
Are u using this burner jacob? if so is that the one for about 40 euros from gasproducts.ie?

and if that so it is good enough for us busy brewers? or would u recomend something  better?
Yes, that's the one I have. Had no problems with it for over two years and would strongly recommend it!
Got it from gasproducts.co.uk. However currently looking for a blichmann one :P
Why are you changing?
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

Jacob

Quote from: Will_D on November 24, 2013, 11:47:07 AM
Why are you changing?
Love at first sight :P

Need to change regulator in my setup. You noticed yourself when got it from me that the flame 'quality' is not ok.
Looks like there's too much oxygen in the gas mix. 

Ciderhead

New blichmans flick on and off gas automatically based in temperature input akin to a pid so no more overshoots with gas


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