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NCB Hop and Malt Buy

Started by ColmR, January 15, 2014, 09:15:36 AM

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DEMPSEY

Sure a bit of tet a tet is good now and again to sort out things. Always emember written threads lack human body language and vocal tone and do sometimes come out seeming harsh :). And what comes after a tet a tet A BIG LOVE IN  :-*
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ColmR

Back on track.

I've requested an official quote for the malt and hops. In terms of payment I think it's probably fine to wire me the money.
But we still need a location to take delivery. Post or PM ideas please :).

As soon as I get pricing back I'll update the spreadsheet with individual amounts required. Once everyone is 100% happy, we'll transfer funds.

Colm

Will_D

Great work Colm, The NCB express is back on the track!
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

ColmR

Uh oh!
There may be supply issues for a couple of the hops. Will update later. PM me suggestions of possible vendors if you have any.

ColmR

OK. So I've reached out to some other suppliers. I thought I'd wait to hear back (and will update if/when I do). But here's the skinny and my suggestion if we go with the current crowd.

BTW I've updated the sheet to add in two new tabs to reflect the below.

Firstly all malt is available. Good  :)
3 out of our hops are in stock. First Gold, Centennial, Galaxy... all good.
However we need to find a substitute or wait 'til April for some of the hops. Citra Pellets will be in stock in April as will Simcoe leaf only. German Magnum isn't available. US Magnum will be in stock in April as well, but costs more than twice the price. I suggest Columbus (CTZ) as a replacement. This was on our shortlist and would be a pretty neat bittering hop.

Delivery will be more expensive if we split the order obviously but I know we all want our Citra and Simcoe so I propose this:

  • We see the order as one big order. Take all payment and place order now.
  • Merge both delivery costs together.
  • We take the malt and four bags of hops now, Columbus instead of Magnum. Citra and Simcoe sent to us later.
  • As the Simcoe will be leaf rather than pellets, it'll be 5.9kg. But I propose that for simplicity we see it as 5kg and divide into 10 equal parts
  • Delivery charges for both deliveries will be around €200 incl VAT after conversion etc.. 
  • Charge delivery at €3 per bag of malt for 29 bags = €87
  • Charge delivery at €2 per 0.5kg hops for 6 x 10 = €120
  • We then put any surplus straight into our kitty, may go towards paying for that vacuum packer

Have a look at the spreadsheet. You will see that the amounts that you've originally committed to spending haven't changed much at all. In fact, it's come down for some of us. And these numbers include freight.

On this new sheet. I've increased R@H's 0.5k of Magnum to 1kg Columbus as I know he wanted 1kg Columbus originally.
Please don't edit the new sheets. Let's chat first.

What do you all think?



nigel_c

What sort of added cost would incure if we split the orders to malt now and hops on April?

ColmR

Quote from: nigel_c on February 21, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
What sort of added cost would incure if we split the orders to malt now and hops on April?
The new sheet includes this cost and scenario. The malt needs to go on a pallet which can fit any hops £110. Second delivery is then £25 up to 30kg. Both ex VAT. The new sheet works it all out using the split I mentioned before.

On Monday I should have an official quite and I'll upload it to our spread sheet.

ColMack


Will_D

Looking great Colm.

Well done
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

ColmR

Hi all,
I think we're ready to get our moneys together. I've added a screenshot of the quote to the spreadsheet on a new tab called quote. This tab also has your overall amounts listed as well.
The other two pages "New Hop Orders" and "New Malt Orders" show what you're getting.

I made a slight miscalculation on the Citra pricing. Other than that the amounts are as they were last Friday.

I now simply ask all 12 of you to send me a PM saying that you're happy with your order choices and the cost. Once I get the 12 PMs we'll do the funds transfer and I'll place the order.

But I also need suggestions of where we can ship the pallet. Unfortunately I do not have the ability to receive a pallet, so I ask for your help.

Thanks,
Colm

ColMack

My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.  It'll only be for a week or two.
Could be awkward getting it up the driveway, but other than that, it would be ok.

Rats

Quote from: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.
Do I see another BBQ coming up......... :P
I drive way to fast to worry about cholesterol

ColmR

Quote from: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.  It'll only be for a week or two.

Thanks Colin, what about the Dublin contingent?
Most of the malt is for the Dublin lads, so I think a Dublin drop off point would be better. Keep the suggestions coming.

...and keep sending those PMs :)

Jacob

Quote from: ColmR on February 25, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Most of the malt is for the Dublin lads

I must be looking at the wrong document then.
So far I've counted 20 bags ordered by northsiders, so with 30 bags ordered in total that gives majority ...

+1 to Colins garage

ColMack

Quote from: ColmR on February 25, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.  It'll only be for a week or two.

Thanks Colin, what about the Dublin contingent?
Most of the malt is for the Dublin lads, so I think a Dublin drop off point would be better. Keep the suggestions coming.

...and keep sending those PMs :)

I agree completely, it's just if we're stuck, it's there.