Rebellious Lambic - AKA Old English October Beer...

[johnrm]

I'll suss out the Mad Monk for Sat March 29th maybe Sun 30th
Please fill in the list if you are Gas or electric or if 29th/30th or both suits

1. johnrm - 2 x 2.2Kw Electric 33l plastic (Have Gas burner, Propane Cylinder, need reg and 50l s/s pot) either date
2. taf
3. Sam
4. Dara
5. mr_happy
6. Garry
7. LordEoin
8. Dr Horrible
9. ColmOM
10. DonnchadhC (taking johnrm 2nd slot)

[Taf]

I've about 6 jars with WLP037 (Yorkshire Square) that I washed from a mild recently. Would fit the bill if people are interested.

Are we going to go with this yeast? How big is a jar? Could be a good opportunity to give my recently acquired stir plate it's first run out.

[Taf]

I'll suss out the Mad Monk for Sat March 29th maybe Sun 30th
Please fill in the list if you are Gas or electric or if 29th/30th or both suits

1. johnrm - 2 x 2.2Kw Electric 33l plastic (Have Gas burner, Propane Cylinder, need reg and 50l s/s pot) either date
2. taf
3. Sam
4. Dara
5. mr_happy
6. Garry
7. LordEoin
8. Dr Horrible
9. ColmOM
10. DonnchadhC (taking johnrm 2nd slot)

I'll probably stick closer to home. Might see if Dara wants to do something as he's just down the road from me.

[mr hoppy]

Good point on the secondary John.

Also, good point on the hops - would definitely go with pellets on this one.

On IBUs - which formula are you guys using in Beersmith? The brewing spreadsheet I use has a formula in it from JP's how to brew which I think is based on the Tinseth formula - so if you're set with Rager or Garetz in BS that might be the difference. I'm ok with whatever formula people prefer - more hops is not a problem.

I assume we'll try to fill the barrel all in one go - so it might be good to focus on that as a social aspect?

A jar is not a lot - you'll need to do a starter alright!

[Garry]

1. johnrm - 2 x 2.2Kw Electric 33l plastic (Have Gas burner, Propane Cylinder, need reg and 50l s/s pot) either date
2. taf
3. Sam
4. Dara
5. mr_happy
6. Garry - 1x2kw + 1x3kw, 29th
7. LordEoin
8. Dr Horrible
9. ColmOM
10. DonnchadhC

[Garry]

Me learning shít today 

Tinseth formula gives 86.9 IBUs
Ragar forumla gives 92.1 IBUs
Garetz formula gives 58.6 IBUs

It looks like Beersmith is using Garetz as default. Why the big difference between Garetz and the other two though?

[Garry]

I'm wrong! Beersmith uses Tinseth as default. I got the above IBUs using the Tools - Hop Bitterness tool.

When I change the default formula in Tools - Options - Bitterness I get the following IBUs in the recipe:

Tinseth formula gives 58.2 IBUs
Ragar forumla gives 67.8 IBUs
Garetz formula gives 43.3 IBUs

I'm confused now! I'll end up breaking Beersmith if I fiddle with it anymore 

[mr hoppy]

Interesting - what options are you using?

[Garry]

When I change the gravity field to 1.090 on the bitterness tool, it seems to bring the IBU's back in line with the values I'm getting in the recipe.

[donnchadhc]

Rager is what the American guys usually use is it not?

[mr hoppy]

He's what Jamil uses, if that's what you mean.

[johnrm]

Aren't these the same Americans that still use miles, have a 3.7litre Gallon and voted for G.W. Bush?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3A9rG022M

[donnchadhc]

.....and think a gallon is only 19 litres. Yep, that's them!

[donnchadhc]

1. johnrm - 2 x 2.2Kw Electric 33l plastic (Have Gas burner, Propane Cylinder, need reg and 50l s/s pot) either date
2. taf
3. Sam
4. Dara
5. mr_happy
6. Garry - 1x2kw + 1x3kw, 29th
7. LordEoin
8. Dr Horrible
9. ColmOM
10. DonnchadhC 2 x 2.4 kW plastic boiler, 29th (can just use one element)

[Taf]

Tube has some EKG pellets for sale, so presume people are interested in getting them for the October Beer?

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5932.0.html