Near Miss With Dropping Full Glass Carboy.

[Ciderhead]

Hey that was the only one that was my fault and you will have seen from my cleaning I don't even use hot or warm water anymore, besides I wasn't wearing shorts or bare feet like them egits.
Never dropped one yet in 8 carboys over 12 months and about 14 or so brews including secondaries on all.

[Ciderhead]

Ah common John!

You know we are equipment freaks.

Just image:

Replace the cheap plastic with SS. Nice shinny pipes and connectors. Submersed pump. Arduino controlling time temperature and which of the fluid lines/reservoirs are being pumped:

Lower carboy or keg. Microswitch detects it and runs the cycle.

1. Hot water rinse ( 1 minute to flush out the crud ) Arduino heats the batch while the 10 min cycle is running).  Flush to waste.

2. Hot W% or VWP or solution of choice ( 10 mins ) (Recycled)

3. Cold water rinse, flush to waste (30 seconds)

Lift off, and the system resets itself waiting for the next candidate.

That way you only have to lift the keg/carboy on and off once and you have 12 minute beer break while the computer does the hard work. Plus you can wear your flip flops!

Damn you WillD and your gadget goading

Determined not to do this on a grand scale, on the plus side a length of copper and the pump are the only things added to my shed.

Get a small pump from china 1200l/hr



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200-300-600-700-750-800-1200-1400-1600L-H-Submersible-Water-Pump-Pond-Aquarium-/111239693969?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:IE:3160



Length of copper pipe



Some W5



and a dirty carboy

[Bazza]

Anyone any experience of these things? Almost tempted to make one with a length of bamboo, a chamois and jubilee clip:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/230992415194?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=t&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95

-Barry

[Ciderhead]

I have the carboy and corny keg version.
That's a knock off version.
Mine is gathering dust so make a homemade one and save your money
Soaking in w5 is still best way for carboys by a long shot

[Bazza]

Fair enough. Could do with holding onto the money. Cheers.

I had a look in Lidl the other day for this w5 stuff but it appears there's a whole range of w5 products, from detergent to dishwater tablets.  Are you just referring to their household bleach?

Annoyingly it looks like there's tiny little ridges on the inside bottom of my carboy that look like a cert for dirt buildup. A 4-day soak in cillit bang solution and 2-day soak in vwp solution couldn't seem to completely clear in between these ridges. Maybe I'm being a little too particular, or am just imagining dirt that's not there.

-Barry

[Ciderhead]

Mine have ridges as well 24 hours with this stuff activated by warm NOT boiling!  will shift anything

[Bazza]

Nice one, CH. Must try it out. Think we've got some Vanish under the sink.
Sorry to be a PITA, but what mix of powder and water do you use?


Cheers,

-Barry

[Ciderhead]

As directed, it's cheap as chips so I tend to go a bit on the rich side.

[Bazza]

Hey CH,

Picked me up a tub of that W5 Oxi Powder in Lidl and soaked the carboy (horizontal and rotating every few hours) in 2 scoops of Oxi mixed with 4L hot water following my most recent brew and BANG! Gone! No scrubbing needed. Sorted!

Cheers for the tip.

-Barry

[Ciderhead]

You are welcome Bazza, Will put me onto it initially, my brush and pro carboy cleaner now have cobwebs.

[Greg2013]

+1 On the Lidl Oxy, be careful though if it gets on your hands or outside of the carboy while cleaning it will make the carboy slippery as fook

[Bazza]

Dunno whether I'm only noticing this now that we're getting evenings of proper sunlight but yesterday evening, looking closely up to the light, it appears the Oxy stuff has left something of a smear on the inside of my carboy. I thought I'd been careful cleaning it out. I rinsed it about 3 times with the hose on spray setting. Very minor but just wondering if it's an issue?

Just as a precaution I made up a fresh W5 solution last night and left it to soak the affected area. Hoping to then rinse out with the hose again, then swrl some hotter water around the inside before finally swirling some SS solution in there prior to filling with wort (hoping to do a brew this evening).

Anyone else had this happen?

Cheers,

-Barry

[brenmurph]

I find its best to wash well using oxy but rinse in cold water leaving glass spotless and the rinse oin starsan and leave starsan in is fine

oxy action leaves a layer of sodium carbonate thast is one of the breakdown products. Oxy breaks down harmlessly in a short window.

If u leave glass in oxy too long it will crystalise onto the glass and need to be scrubbed clean.. so always wash in hot oxy and rinse when finished using starsan as the final sanitation rinse

[Will_D]

A few points:

Use a length of brass or ss chain ( about a 8mm link length) in the demijohn, fermenter or whatever as a scourer!
Even works with a length in a litre bottle! Just make sure you hold the end outside of the neck or yoy may not get it out again

Regards W5 and glass:

Glass can resist most chemicals; Solvents, acids and other nasty stuff. The ONE thing it can't handle is strong alkalis.

Guess what a strong solution of W5 is! It will leave a bit of a film on the glasswhich takes a good few rinses to remove.

leave a toostrong W5 solution in glass and it may well etch the glass.

BTW #2: Vanish ( the pink one, contains perfume  )

[lordstilton]

Had the exact same issue with oxy tried everything to shift it including caustic soda to no avail,...I was told to try PH down from a hydroponic shop..i found it in a pet shop as they use it for fish tanks...worked a treat...shifted it in seconds